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 Welcome to the Formula 1 2017 thread! Where the rules are made up and the points do matter. What is Formula 1? Grand Prix motor racing has its roots in organised automobile racing that began in France as far back as 1894. It quickly evolved from a simple road race from one town to the next, to endurance tests for car and driver. Innovation and the drive of competition soon saw speeds exceeding 100 miles per hour , but because the races were held on open roads there were frequent accidents with fatalities resulting to both drivers and spectators. Since 1950, Grand prix racing has taken the form of "Formula 1", usually a wings-and-slicks series where "constructors" spend tons of other peoples money to make the fastest racing cars in the world. Formula One is the pinnacle of formula racing, featuring the best drivers in the most powerful, technically advanced cars. Rules? What Rules? Each team is expected to create 2 identical cars and participate in a 20 race calendar. A weekend consists of a practice session on Friday, 3-round knockout qualifying on Saturday, and a race on Sunday where points are awarded to the top 10 finishers. At the end up the year we tally up the points, and the leading driver wins a "WDC" (World Drivers Championship, Not to be confused with the MWDC) and the team with the most points wins a "WCC" (World Constructors Championship). Formula 1 is often every bit as "exciting" off track as it is on track and expect lots of backstabbing, firey internet posts and boardroom meeting before the dust settles in late November. From time to time the "Formula" is changed to shake things up, and this year is a doozy. 2017 features the same v6 eco-hybrid drivetrain we've come to "love" but with a heaping helping of change to make the cars faster. The tires are wider, especially in the rear. The wings are larger overall and swept for that aerodynamic look, and the teams are given more space and freedom in the bodywork and "floor" of the car in order to generate actually pretty crazy levels of downforce. We are expecting 10+ year old lap records to fall this year. The Calander
(thank you forums user harperdc for this whole section!) Teams listed in order of 2016 World Championship points; drivers’ points as of 2016 Championship Mercedes  Mercedes have grown and become a major power in Formula 1. With Grand Prix pedigree from the 1950s and experience making engines for 15 years before re-joining as a full manufacturer in 2010, they’re a team with plenty of history; from the arrival of Lewis Hamilton in 2013 and the new ruleset in 2014, they’ve become dominant. They’re expected to have one of the best cars and engine combinations in 2017, but the question isn’t how much they’ve developed, but if anyone else has caught them. Lewis Hamilton (2nd, 380 points) - The three-time World Champion lost it at the last to former teammate Nico Rosberg in 2016. A divisive figure in this thread (to put it simply), he remains one of the fastest drivers on the grid. Snapchat and Instagram enthusiast; #blessed. Championship favorite. Valtteri Bottas (8th, 85 points) - Joined Mercedes after the retirement of 2016 champ Rosberg. Four years of experience at Williams give him F1 experience, but he has zero pole positions or wins to his name. A cool and calm character, he’s expected to compete for wins -- but will he? Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer  Formula 1’s kings of the extreme (including extremes of what the rules include), the Austrian energy drink giant has owned their own team since 2005 and have competed for wins and championships since 2009. After a rough 2015, the team were the only to take a race win from Mercedes in 2016. With two race-winning drivers and F1 design god Adrian Newey back using his pencil for good and not sailboats or Aston Martins, much is expected from RBR this year. Daniel Ricciardo (3rd, 256 points) - The Colgate Bogan, Daniel “Danny Ricky Bobby” Ricciardo is fast, brave, and a serious title threat this year if the car’s good. His race wins in 2014 came through a combination of smarts and balls, and he’s proven to have solid qualifying and race pace. Max Verstappen (204 points, 5th) - Started last season at RBR’s junior team, Toro Rosso, and swapped with Daniil Kvyat from the Spanish Grand Prix. First race in the RBR, and the frog-faced boy wonder wins the drat thing. Had massive speed and is the absolute last of the late brakers in F1, attempting moves few would consider. However, there’s pressure to perform and a new set of rules which may make life tough. Should compete for the title. Ferrari  The old, scarlet lady of Formula 1. Has been around since the first Grand Prix and they never let you forget it. Have always been competitive, there or thereabouts, too. Last year was a disappointment after 2014 and ‘15, but the pace of Kimi Raikkonen and the swearing of Vettel were both impressive. Now, we know that testing times are as useful as a bacon briefcase, but Ferrari came out of the winter testing as The Team to Beat. Expected to improve on 2016 and with two former champions, they should put up a serious fight. Sebastian Vettel (4th, 212 points) - the four-time champion (with Red Bull) was successful straight away with Ferrari in 2015, but last year he was known more for swearing on the radio than anything else he did on the track. Has those four titles but is he able to drag the team up and develop a car? Kimi Raikkonen (6th, 186 points) - the famously icy Finn is the 2007 champion with Ferrari and somebody most fans thought was done as we started one year ago. But a strong season has provided hope that everyone’s favorite F1 meme might compete again. Could win races; could be in the title hunt…? Force India-Mercedes  After starting as the Jordan F1 team in the early ‘90s, they wandered the desert before Indian playboy-slash-businessman-slash-fugitive Vijay Mallya bought the team 10 years ago. Partnership with Mercedes provides the best engine and other tricky toys; the design team have also found ways to succeed on a limited budget, too. They’ve ascended up the ladder, marking their highest finish since the team was painted bright yellow, but do they have the cash and drivers to keep fighting? (Probably not, but don’t be shocked if they steal a win). Sergio Perez (7th, 101 points) - the F1 thread’s second favorite Mexican (we miss you Hefe) somehow scored two podiums and a 7th-placed finish in the championship. Now in his seventh season, he’s become a solid driver, and more is expected -- he could snag a podium or two, and might even get a win if the conditions fall right. Esteban Ocon (23rd, 0 points) - the Mercedes junior driver spent half a season in the tail-end Manor (R.I.P. Manor) and managed to equal his then-teammate, Pascal Wehrlein, in equal cars. While Wehrlein was in the picture for the Mercedes seat after Rosberg’s retirement, Ocon has taken the FI spot and should have a solid first year with the team. Williams-Mercedes  One of Formula 1’s historic teams, celebrating their 40th anniversary this year, the 9-time constructors’ champions are hoping to rebound for a disappointing 2016 and get back into title contention. A common sight up the grid in 2014, the team slid down the last two years. But was 2016’s woes just a sign that they were focused on the new-rules package this year? And what of their drivers… Felipe Massa (11th, 53 points) - Oh, Felipe, baby. Expected to retire at the end of last year and hand the reins to Bottas, that plan came undone when Bottas was chosen to replace Rosberg at the factory Mercedes team. The old hand has been brought in for one last go-around. Is there any left in the tank? Lance Stroll (Rookie - N/A) - Billionaire father bankrolling your racing career, including hiring one of the most famous Formula 1 teams to be a glorified test team ahead of your own F1 debut? Lance Stroll is living out the life you wish you could...which is why he’s instantly hated. Let’s see what he can do. McLaren-Honda  Another year, another wonder if this is the season McLaren pull it back together. Second only to Ferrari in Formula 1 history, wins, and titles, McLaren have prided themselves on being the most professional and precise squad in recent years. However, this also has led to exactly zero constructors’ championships since 1998 and zero competitive drives since Lewis Hamilton left the team. And after the struggles of 2015, it looked like they had some speed by the end of 2016. But alas, it looks like all the uncertainty and misalignment between McLaren and engine partner Honda has continued, and the team finished testing well off the pace and surrounded by dark clouds of rumor. Also they promised an orange car and somehow hosed that up, royally. Fernando Alonso (10th, 54 points) - Oh, Fernando. Second only to “Bad Luck” Mark Webber in the bad luck and timing game, he very well should be a four-time world champion, but is instead a hostage of the McLaren-Honda golden prison. This could prove to be his last F1 season which is a shame because, in equal cars, he’s probably still top three on the grid for sheer talent. Will be replaced by Jensen Button for the Monaco GP while he races in the Indy 500 this year. Stoffel Vandoorne (20th, 1 point) - While the young Belgian scored one point on one race last year, this year is his true rookie season. After crushing GP2 in 2015, he was McLaren’s reserve driver last year, filling in for the dead injured Alonso in Bahrain. He spent the rest of his time sharpening open-wheel skills in Super Formula in Japan. Toro Rosso-Renault  The continuation of once-proud backmarkers Minardi, the Toro Rosso team has become Red Bull’s kindergarten (Vettel, Ricciardo, and Verstappen are all alumni) as well as the host to some quite crafty engineers. At the least, the new paint scheme A. looks a lot better and B. differentiates them from the Red Bull squad visually. With proper Renault engines, could be a surprise this year. Carlos Sainz Jr. (12th, 46 points) - There are a lot of exciting young drivers in Formula 1, but young Sainz is the one to watch for me. Son of former World Rally Champion Carlos Sainz, the youngster is starting his third year in Formula 1 and without a clear path to the Red Bull Racing squad, may very well become the most in-demand driver in the 2017 ‘silly season.’ Could be a surprise this year. Daniil Kvyat (14th, 25 points) - As Verstappen had his unlikely rise last year, so Kvyat suffered the fall. A solid if uninspiring driver in 2015 with the RBR team led to a 2016 where some early-season mistakes led to his first podium -- at home in Russia -- and his last drive before switching with Verstappen. After that, he looked absolutely shaken, and spoke to the press about having no confidence left. Hopefully he gained some of that back over the winter. Haas-Ferrari  Formula 1’s newest entrant, the American-owned team is run by Gene Haas, who also co-owns a major NASCAR entry with Tony Stewart. With headquarters in the U.S., a forward base in England, cars manufactured in Italy by Dallara and as many parts as are legal sourced from Ferrari’s catalogue, Haas F1 are setup to be solid and competitive quickly. They scored enough early to not be last, but it became apparent 2016 was a trial season. What does 2017 hold? Romain Grosjean (13th, 29 points) - Big John, late of Lotus, has become a solid F1 veteran and a Worst Thread favorite. Three points-scoring places in the first four races set up his 2016, and with another year of development, he should be in the midfield again this year. Kevin Magnussen (16th, 7 points) - Son of Corvette Racing stalwart Jan Magnussen, young Kevin has had an interesting F1 career thus far. A McLaren development driver and race driver in 2014, he then became a McLaren test driver in 2015 before jumping to the revitalized Renault team last year. After a tough year there, he’s joined with Haas. Is this his last F1 chance? He’s shown speed but has also been in poor cars throughout his career. Renault  The Once and Future Renault has returned. The former Toleman, Benetton, Renault, Bad Lotus, and Just Lotus team has returned as Renault and look to become respectable in 2017. Between poor finances (the team almost went bankrupt in 2015) and development (their 2016 car was developed for roughly 5 British Pounds and designed for a Mercedes engine), last year was always going to be a wash. With a proper new car, engine development (also benefitting their customers, Red Bull and Toro Rosso) and two solid drivers, they should jump into the midfield fray. Nico Hulkenberg (9th, 72 points) - The Hulk made the leap to a factory team for 2017, but for some patience it might have been the coveted Mercedes seat. He was beaten by Perez in last year’s championship for Force India, but is still a reliable, quick driver with more than 100 race starts for Williams and FI under his belt. If Renault find themselves over-achieving, it will be because The Hulk finally meets expectations. Jolyon Palmer (18th, 1 point) - Son of former F1 driver and current British racing circuit magnate Jonathan Palmer, Palmer’s rookie year coincided with the smoking crater of Lotus racing as Renault, so it was always going to be difficult. That he managed to cut it close with Magnussen is a credit to him, and with a much-improved package he’s now got to prove himself in 2017. Sauber-Ferrari  Sauber are a funny old team. Perennial midfield battlers, a former kindergarten of F1 talent (Kimi Raikkonen, Felipe Massa, Robert Kubica, Sebastian Vettel, and Nico Hulkenburg all have driven for the team early in their careers), at one time a factory team when owned by BMW, now the Swiss team is holding on -- just. Born from the Sauber sports car team that won Le Mans in the 1980s, the team have more than 20 years of F1 experience, most of it as a satisfied midfield outfit, some of it as a legitimate contender (namely with BMW). In recent years their performance hasn’t matched past ambitions or ability, and hopefully -- after surviving 2016 -- they will live on. Marcus Ericsson (22nd, 0 points) - Has driven for Sauber for a few years now, and has neither justified moving up or down the field. However, as he has ties to the new investment/ownership group leading Sauber, he’ll probably have a seat as long as he likes. Pascal Wehrlein (19th, 1 point) - The young Mercedes driver surprisingly won the DTM series in 2015, leading to a full-time seat with Manor for 2016. While he showed some speed and consistency, he’s also garnered a reputation as something of a diva. Was a possibility for the Mercedes seat, and has instead wound up at Sauber, which is some kind of luck. A desperate plea from thread veterans: quote:WANTED: INFORMATION ON THE WHEREABOUTS OF THREAD REGULAR EL HEFE, come back you filthy Mexican, we love you really WORST THREAD FANTASY F1 LEAGUE 2017 (FOR INCELS) (Click here to join, Join code is "58d2cc69837ee9a30306b750" if you need it.) Current points:  Anything else? This is affectionately known as the "worst thread", things can get a little.... odd. But in my experience its one of the finest sports communities around and is always happy to help out a new fan. If you dont know anything about this lame-euro-sport simply pick a team and driver at random, and remember to post here insulting the other ones. Ask questions, make mistakes (I for one, rooted for Nelsino Piquet in 2007) and have fun this season of Formula 1. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO RIVALS.COM PUNS...if you know what i mean, fellas  IRC: irc://irc.synirc.net/F1 Discord: https://discord.gg/kg3d2Uu 2016-17 Off-season | 2016 season | 2015-16 Off-season | 2015 Part 1|2015 Part 2 | 2014-15 Off-season | 2014 season | 2013-14 Off-season | 2013 season | 2012-13 Off season | 2012 season 2011-12 Off-season | 2011 Part 1|2011 Breakaway (stop talking about phones!)|2011 Part 2 | 2010-2011 Off Season | 2010 Part 1|2010 Part 2 | 2009-2010 Off season 2009 News and Views|2009 Part 1|2009 Breakaway Thread|2009 Part 2 | 2008-2009 Off season | 2008 Part 1|2008 Part 2|2008 Part 3 | 2007-2008 Off season 2007 Part 1|2007 Part 2|2007 Part 3 | 2006 Part 1|2006 Part 2|2006 Part 3|2006 Part 4|2006 Part 5 | 2005 Whole Season | 2005 Part WTF | 2004 Whole Season (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) wicka posted:Alonso is a guy who drives Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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YESSSSSSSS LEWIS 4 TIMES WORLD CHAMPION GET IN THERE YOU GOAT OF ALL TIME ITS HAMMERTIME #MEGAJET 
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julian assflange posted:Dropping by with an early plea to gas this thread Agreed 
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Mar 20, 2017 23:56
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Nill posted:I predict Lance Stroll is destined for Great Things. multi-car Maldonado-tier divebombs every race if we can be so lucky Im starting to think the bad reputation he's already developed before race 1 will make him timid and produce mediocre results. While MASSA rides to an unexpected and epic WDC, and then retires.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:21
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lotharr posted:Wow this new interface is hot garbage. Joined as well, i've not yet done one of these. Wirth1000 posted:garbage loving thread title holy poo poo. It wasnt my favorite but i thought picking my own thread title (the other popular one) was even more lovely. If you come up with a better one at some point this year i'll be happy to change it. Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 02:02
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McMadCow posted:No team and driver bios? The OP was what got me into closely following F1 in 2012, and the OP has been pretty comprehensive ever since. You're right. The video isnt good enough. I'll add them ASAP for new readers. harperdc posted:I've already started on basic team/driver write-ups, I'll post them later tonight. Thanks sir, ill be sure to add them to the OP Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 02:37
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"GP Predictor" added to OP. Be sure to sign up now before the race, i'll try keep the image updated after each round.
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Mar 21, 2017 14:03
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Norns posted:New thread new day for Lance Stroll to attempt murder Theophany posted:Taken out by the upside down Williams of Lance Stroll. 
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Mar 21, 2017 18:05
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Lets not forget when lewis stood up for freedom and democracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSwY9huY_Qc&t=5s
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Mar 21, 2017 23:00
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Im up for any title change, i picked a poo poo one. Thanks for the great car section forums user harperdc. Re: The Alonso section, i think fernando has done everything he needs to do to inherit the "Bad Luck" Fernando Alonso (BLFA) title. Lets make that a thing.
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Mar 22, 2017 00:10
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:What's the difference between Bad Lotus and Good Lotus? Considering that my understanding is neither is related in any way to Colin Lotus Bad lotus was renault and became lotus. Good lotus was lotus and became caterham.
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Mar 22, 2017 00:43
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I think a remake of the intake/sharkfin area for 2018 or 2019 would go a long way to completing the look. Something to make it look shorter or less substantial in that section.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:09
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You know who else won WDC* in a newey car? Mansell, Villeneuve and Hill.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:52
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They should really scrap LMP1 and have some kind of modified LaFerrari/MclarenP1/Konigseiggsgge class... bring sports cars back to the front of sports car racing, like it was a recently as the 90s.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:39
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learnincurve posted:GP predictor went all fancy on us. Can we get this in the OP please? Link updated, it didnt ask me for a join code after i clicked. Make sure to update to the new one guys. Now im a member of two leagues called "The Worst thread", is it possible to quit the old one? I dont see how to.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:36
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Theophany posted:My company blocks pretty much everything but SA. Luckily i've got the keys to the content filter for the whole county  I think id quit if i couldnt gently caress around on the internet. What are we, savages?
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Mar 22, 2017 21:47
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1500quidporsche posted:I dunno, if you put Stroll or Verstappen in there they'd probably die from Shaken Baby Syndrome. 
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Mar 23, 2017 03:32
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McGuinty posted:The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Why am i not suprised. We live in a world where a heterosexual relationship in a movie is somewhere between annoying and problematic and everyone is assumed to be  :iamafag:Put in my predictions for the race. VETHAMRAIBOTRICVERPERHULSTOGRO FL: ROC POL: HAM PG: VES
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Mar 23, 2017 23:36
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gently caress, i bought into the scud studs hype despite hating ferrari and put 2 of them on the podium. My predictions are hosed.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:20
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Italy and Romania were the big "Both sides" players. Hard to say how they werent successful (i guess assistance by the allies?). Finland was just pissed that germany was burning things on the way out, barely anyone died. Anyway, HAM in P1: "Im excited to see where they stand, whether we're ahead or they're behind (...) Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 13:34
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Oh wow thats avatar gold
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Mar 24, 2017 18:11
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So mclaren needs to badmouth honda for a few weeks, then take over, redesign the engine and name it after a watch brand?
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Mar 25, 2017 01:02
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that ringing noise sounds of ..... bearings. That quiet squeal makes me think of low oil pressure or something. ugh mclaren.
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Mar 25, 2017 03:23
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Allow me one more use of this, i put a whole 2 minutes into it 
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Mar 25, 2017 19:24
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American Haas fans current mood:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxKgF76nSWQ edit: learnincurve posted:Haas, average Not as average as every Williams, every Toro Rosso and every Force india. Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 19:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymakutSAJUM
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Mar 25, 2017 23:32
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Wirth1000 posted:Holy poo poo, I didn't even realize Grosjean was 6th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxKgF76nSWQ Sorry im a poo poo poster but thats the only thing i can say about are John tonight
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Mar 26, 2017 00:50
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Just watched the race, happy for vettel despite being a HAM fan. It was a good race. Op updated with GP Prediction results, expected more from hASS. 
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Mar 27, 2017 00:30
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1500quidporsche posted:I really want this mostly because I'm being given some poo poo Corolla and some sex appeal attached to that brand would be nice You must be new: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdd_4BqoSnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GopJiJZqgKk
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Mar 27, 2017 20:08
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Human Grand Prix posted:Aren't post-millennials like 15 at the oldest? I wondered until i was like 28 what the hell my generation would be called. Millenials in general are 10-15 years older than people think they are.
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Mar 28, 2017 01:41
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:They actually have a "PUSH TO PASS" button in the cars. Shameful and low class. Not like DRS. And turbo V6s! Thats no race car.
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Mar 28, 2017 03:08
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If i wanted to watch more passing. I'd watch another sport. Its as if the owners and pundits of (euro) football looked at the NBA and said "Wow they score hundreds of points per game, i want that for us" and debated over wether to make the pitch 30 meters long, 15 meters wide, and the goal resized the whole width of the field. If you want NBA scoring, watch NBA, and if you want passing, watch NASCAR. I love hour long slow-burn duels decided by pit strategy, thats why i watch f1.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:49
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quote:"There's an area that we have to work on, our tyre usage, it is something we understand where we're losing [out]," he said. Sounds like a good lad taking a pragmatic, mature approach. I think he will do well. 2007-2008 hamilton would have pushed like hell and worn out his rubber and/or crashed, instead he got a very Rosberg-esque pole to second place and we all know how that turned out.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:56
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Kimi would be WDC if ferrari just hired him to rolling 3-race contracts. He really goes nuts when his job is on the line, and is heikki-esque otherwise. I rate him going into the wall in spa 2008 as my greatest f1 moment ever. I actually shouted at the TV at the top of my lungs, lost in ecstasy as if i was a real sports fan. I knew in that moment a red car crashing is the most beautiful sight man can ever see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K9P9z_Lwa0&t=122s (its such a classic battle its even filmed with 1970s cameras) Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 20:01
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Keyser S0ze posted:Lewis/Bottas 1-2 next race calling it now. Be sure to join the prediction league in the original post if you haven't already Also, I'm going to start hosting the points standings of the top three drivers after each race in the calendar section.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:31
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That helmet is cool and good, one must admit He's doing some kind of emo silent protest that he cant change helmet designs at every pit stop, with flexable OLED screens all over it with flashing ads and memes by going with a white design with the manditory flag and sponsor bullshit. "My name is Sebastian X, Charlie Whiting is an rear end in a top hat"
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Mar 28, 2017 23:58
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So evolve it. The dizzle plan has been available since like 2009. Active aero, single plane front and rear wings, of a dimension that wouldnt be a majority of downforce on the car. Full skirted ground effects, active suspension. (and 3000 horsepower)
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Mar 29, 2017 00:42
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Norns posted:What's the best era of F1? 2004-2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8190t4mrbc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewB0rU28Hks Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 01:43
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Wait i forgot this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepyD99iD3k Torrented ITV was my introduction into f1 as an american, and i still have a special place in my heart for it. And this was my first full season. I absolutely saw the above video live and thought "wow im into this sport for life". Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Pirate Radar posted:What really gets me about that is that it's not like Lewis still has to compete with Nico, and it's not like he's at some kind of disadvantage here, he has three championships to Nico's one, but he still feels like he needs to take a petty little shot at Nico. Punching down is good and proper.
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