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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Tallgeese posted:

Is there anything to the notion that he somehow obtained admin credentials to a pedo forum?

http://nymag.com/guides/money/2007/39957/index5.html

quote:

Another of the cases the Berry story spurred involves Tim “Casey” Richards, a 23-year-old Internet-porn star who faces 220 years in prison when he goes for sentencing in December. Berry hired him to help run JustinsFriends in return for a share of the profits.
...
In court papers, he alleges that they found cash transfers, as well as e-mails from “Andrew McDonald,” using an AOL address of Eichenwald’s. On June 6, 2005, “Andrew McDonald” wrote “the lighting sucks, washed out. still … worth 100.” On June 7, he wrote, “I have other proposals for you that would get you even more money.” A day later, Berry received a $2,000 check, drawn off Eichenwald’s Dallas bank.

Even more mystifying than the payouts were the allegations by a computer expert hired by the defense, who analyzed hard drives and records and presented evidence that, as Berry was preparing to return to the business, Eichenwald had high-level administrative access to JustinsFriends, which would have allowed him to closely monitor the site’s business. If true, the allegation suggests many things: reportorial zeal, or a kind of journalistic sting, perhaps; not to mention personal motives that would be hard for anyone but Eichenwald to understand.

Eichenwald has yet to address this allegation specifically, but he’s denied doing anything illegal in reporting the story. His legal team moved to seal the records, but they were finally released last month.

this is the defense for the guy who ran the porn website though, so they're trying to show things that might put the heat on other people, so not exactly ironclad


The other good bit in that article is that the first person to uncover all this was another journalist working on the issue that investigation into child porn puts journalists at risk for being charged for child porn themselves. She wanted to get some sort of exemption for it. She though Eichenwald was feeding everything to the feds to make sure he'd be immune, and that kinda sucks from the journalism perspective. In looking into his story, she uncovered the payments. Eichenwald immediately threatened to sue her. :crossarms:

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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Klyith posted:

http://nymag.com/guides/money/2007/39957/index5.html


this is the defense for the guy who ran the porn website though, so they're trying to show things that might put the heat on other people, so not exactly ironclad


The other good bit in that article is that the first person to uncover all this was another journalist working on the issue that investigation into child porn puts journalists at risk for being charged for child porn themselves. She wanted to get some sort of exemption for it. She though Eichenwald was feeding everything to the feds to make sure he'd be immune, and that kinda sucks from the journalism perspective. In looking into his story, she uncovered the payments. Eichenwald immediately threatened to sue her. :crossarms:

Because he wasn't feeding anything to the feds, he was just doing it on his own. for "Research". lol.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Hello I am a journalist and I would like a license to look at CP please. For a story, you know.

Totally above board.

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
I CAN'T HELP BUT DERAIL THREADS WITH MY VERY PRESENCE

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IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Why do you feel compelled to expound upon subjects you clearly know nothing about 

Calm down oxballs.

EDIT: lol, I just realized when you were asking who Alison Rapp was, I completely forgot you were going about calling her a "whore", ages ago.

curse of flubber fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 22, 2017

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Dude you're grasping at shadows. I think it's bad to try to give people seizures on purpose, obviously, but leaping from that to alt-right conspiracy theories is silly.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm saying the alt-right posters are the one's posting all this pedo poo poo and dragging on this dude, I don't think that's too crazy a thing to say. I'm trying to help people take it all with a grain of salt.

I honestly don't know much about the guy, but I know a lot of people who really hate him this thread also really hate Jewish people.

scuba school sucks
Aug 30, 2012

The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

Professor SJW posted:

do you know how much it hurt to see this thread and not be able to post in it because i was on probation? seizure gif is my expertise

Hey I just want to say with the utmost respect, I didn't know, when I was on the first page and I was infringing on your territory I didn't know this was syndicate territory and I didn't mean no disrespect. If I'd'a knowed this turf was spoken for I wouldn't even showed up much less carried out an operation on your turf. I didn't mean nothin out of line man, I'm real sorry.

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

Megaspel posted:

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm saying the alt-right posters are the one's posting all this pedo poo poo and dragging on this dude

I don't think so.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Megaspel posted:

Calm down oxballs.

EDIT: lol, I just realized when you were asking who Alison Rapp was, I completely forgot you were going about calling her a "whore", ages ago.

What? No i seriously have no memory who this person is

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
posting bad enough to kill

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

flerp posted:

posting bad enough to kill

this is what i work towards every day

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Dude you're grasping at shadows. I think it's bad to try to give people seizures on purpose, obviously, but leaping from that to alt-right conspiracy theories is silly.

Megaspel has never failed to defend a pedophile. Not once. It's his thing.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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Ork of Fiction posted:

Megaspel has never failed to defend a pedophile. Not once. It's his thing.

Ah we're going for the old disagree and you must be a pedo-sympathizer huh? One way of knocking down those who disagree.

I see why you guys fall back on the pedo thing when you want to smear someone, that way you can try to smear everyone who tries to call you out on your bullshit.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Dude you're grasping at shadows. I think it's bad to try to give people seizures on purpose, obviously, but leaping from that to alt-right conspiracy theories is silly.

He's been targeted for writing pro-Clinton poo poo but you don't need that to explain this.

free basket of chips
Sep 7, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Megaspel posted:

Ah we're going for the old disagree and you must be a pedo-sympathizer huh? One way of knocking down those who disagree.

I see why you guys fall back on the pedo thing when you want to smear someone, that way you can try to smear everyone who tries to call you out on your bullshit.

You're a baby

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



megaspel, i read this whole thread and you jumped up really quick. i dont get it. we are making fun of the guy because he violated ethics in real journalism by paying a kid who was also running a pedo ring that he himself was also participating in.

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Lmao at your life if you have epilepsy

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

PTSD vs. Epilepsy; The Ultimate Showdown

Which condition can garner more unearned sympathy?? Tune in to find out.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Moridin920 posted:

Hello I am a journalist and I would like a license to look at CP please. For a story, you know.

Totally above board.

Also I need money to pay these young boys. I'm trying to... rescue them. yeah that's right rescue them from their disgusting and reprehensible practices, it's just horrible

sir please take your hand out of your pocket

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP

KoRMaK posted:

megaspel, i read this whole thread and you jumped up really quick. i dont get it. we are making fun of the guy because he violated ethics in real journalism by paying a kid who was also running a pedo ring that he himself was also participating in.

You'd prefer I'd jump up slowly?

I see bullshit I'm gonna call it out, check this out for example

uber_stoat posted:

yeesh

https://twitter.com/ironyboytxt/status/842967258787954692

maybe it would've been a good thing if he died actually.

Ignoring the wishing someone dead, check out who uses ironyboy as a source.

https://encrypted.google.com/search...0k1.eDtIEZonAtY

From the top results there's /pol/ - Politically Incorrect, somethingsensitive.com the site where banned goons go to complain about Something Awful, and something called the poker fraud alert forums? I'm not sure what that last one is but it's from a pro-trump thread. There are also is another famous doxxing/harassment squad who links to ironyboytxt, it's the one Oxballs is trying to get me to mention so I get probated, have fun guessing which one it is!

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

Megaspel posted:

You'd prefer I'd jump up slowly?

I see bullshit I'm gonna call it out, check this out for example


Ignoring the wishing someone dead, check out who uses ironyboy as a source.

https://encrypted.google.com/search...0k1.eDtIEZonAtY

From the top results there's /pol/ - Politically Incorrect, somethingsensitive.com the site where banned goons go to complain about Something Awful, and something called the poker fraud alert forums? I'm not sure what that last one is but it's from a pro-trump thread. There are also is another famous doxxing/harassment squad who links to ironyboytxt, it's the one Oxballs is trying to get me to mention so I get probated, have fun guessing which one it is!

uber_stoat posted:

if an alt right person says "Jews turned the sky blue" in a certain sense he is incorrect but that doesn't mean the sky isn't blue.

emoji
Jun 4, 2004
Stop choosing to ignore the mainstream sources and documents posted ITT just because some people posted links from sketchy twitters because they were probably the top hit on a twitter search.

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP

emoji posted:

Stop choosing to ignore the mainstream sources and documents posted ITT just because some people posted links from sketchy twitters because they were probably the top hit on a twitter search.

Mainstream sources were posted, but they didn't confirm all this pedo poo poo, you just cherry picked what you liked out of it and hoped everyone would be too lazy to read it and choose to side with you because it was easier.

I'm not saying this guy is not or is a pedophile, but there's certainly a big smear campaign against him right now which you're very keen to deny.

curse of flubber fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Mar 23, 2017

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Megaspel posted:

Mainstream sources were posted, but they didn't confirm all this pedo poo poo, you just cherry picked what you liked out of it and hoped everyone would be too lazy to read it and choose to side with you because it was easier.

I'm not saying this guy is not or is a pedophile, but there's certainly a big smear campaign against him right now which you're very keen to deny.

Okay, from now on we'll refer to Kurt as Kurt the ALLEGED pedophile.

Would that make you happy?

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Megaspel posted:

You'd prefer I'd jump up slowly?

I see bullshit I'm gonna call it out, check this out for example


Ignoring the wishing someone dead, check out who uses ironyboy as a source.

https://encrypted.google.com/search...0k1.eDtIEZonAtY

From the top results there's /pol/ - Politically Incorrect, somethingsensitive.com the site where banned goons go to complain about Something Awful, and something called the poker fraud alert forums? I'm not sure what that last one is but it's from a pro-trump thread. There are also is another famous doxxing/harassment squad who links to ironyboytxt, it's the one Oxballs is trying to get me to mention so I get probated, have fun guessing which one it is!

bro, are you some sort of alt-somethingsensive operative or some poo poo why do you have all this research?????

What i'm saying is that this jouralist got some stink on him by paying that kid and then turning it into a story. REgardless of who is citing these stories.

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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KoRMaK posted:

bro, are you some sort of alt-somethingsensive operative or some poo poo why do you have all this research?????

What i'm saying is that this jouralist got some stink on him by paying that kid and then turning it into a story. REgardless of who is citing these stories.

yes typing in a word into google is CRAAAAAAAAAZzzZY. It took me hours to type all those letters into google and paste the url into my post!

Everyone's got some stink, but this is exactly like Alison Rapp, she worked at Nintendo, some people got angry that a localization she was part of reduced cleavage of an underage character, so they took her thesis out of context and used it to smear her as a pedo. I'm sure if a kiwifarms or whoever focused their efforts on you, they could find something in your past to tangentially relate you to pedophilia, that they'd then use to smear you with. You're feeding the doxxers and harassers by reposting their poo poo.

It's like that bullshit with JonTron where he cites "statistics" that the richest black people cause more crime than the poorest white people, it's taken wildly out of context and he certainly doesn't mention the margin of error makes the two incomparable in that specific study. You get all sorts of scientists telling people to not believe the racists who cite their paper as "proof" that black people are inferior, because what they do is cherry pick elements out of it and completely misrepresent the whole thing in order to push their agenda.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Megaspel posted:

yes typing in a word into google is CRAAAAAAAAAZzzZY. It took me hours to type all those letters into google and paste the url into my post!

Everyone's got some stink, but this is exactly like Alison Rapp, she worked at Nintendo, some people got angry that a localization she was part of reduced cleavage of an underage character, so they took her thesis out of context and used it to smear her as a pedo. I'm sure if a kiwifarms or whoever focused their efforts on you, they could find something in your past to tangentially relate you to pedophilia, that they'd then use to smear you with. You're feeding the doxxers and harassers by reposting their poo poo.

It's like that bullshit with JonTron where he cites "statistics" that the richest black people cause more crime than the poorest white people, it's taken wildly out of context and he certainly doesn't mention the margin of error makes the two incomparable in that specific study. You get all sorts of scientists telling people to not believe the racists who cite their paper as "proof" that black people are inferior, because what they do is cherry pick elements out of it and completely misrepresent the whole thing in order to push their agenda.

sir this an applebees I'm going to have to ask you to leave

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

Megaspel posted:

Mainstream sources were posted, but they didn't confirm all this pedo poo poo, you just cherry picked what you liked out of it and hoped everyone would be too lazy to read it and choose to side with you because it was easier.

I'm not saying this guy is not or is a pedophile, but there's certainly a big smear campaign against him right now which you're very keen to deny.

I'm not denying there's a smear campaign. It's possible that there is both an unjustifiable smear campaign of stupid bullshit going on perpetrated by pepes who accuse him of being a cuck or whatever, and that there is an extensive record of him doing some very questionable things published by mainstream media years ago. Both are true.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Play posted:

sir this an applebees I'm going to have to ask you to leave

im going to applebees now bye.

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

scuba school sucks posted:

Hey I just want to say with the utmost respect, I didn't know, when I was on the first page and I was infringing on your territory I didn't know this was syndicate territory and I didn't mean no disrespect. If I'd'a knowed this turf was spoken for I wouldn't even showed up much less carried out an operation on your turf. I didn't mean nothin out of line man, I'm real sorry.

it's fine dude no worries! we are cool bro :hfive:

i'll just bash one of your kneecaps

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

im going to applebees now bye.

okay just remember this is a family establishment, please don't walk in looking like the guy in your av

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



this reminds me a lot about the kerfluffle about the anime video game *adjusts glasses*

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



this would b a sick first case for th enext layton game

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



it'd have 2 b the tutorial mission tho cuz once you collected the photo of the murderer and it's him holding the flashin gif in one hand and his licence in the other u know what u gotta do

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
lol

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Megaspel posted:

Everyone's got some stink, but this is exactly like Alison Rapp, she worked at Nintendo, some people got angry that a localization she was part of reduced cleavage of an underage character, so they took her thesis out of context and used it to smear her as a pedo. I'm sure if a kiwifarms or whoever focused their efforts on you, they could find something in your past to tangentially relate you to pedophilia, that they'd then use to smear you with. You're feeding the doxxers and harassers by reposting their poo poo.

It's a great parallel because, just like Eichenwald, your focus on the pedo smear part is ignoring the actual problem that got her in trouble.

Serrath
Mar 17, 2005

I have nothing of value to contribute
Ham Wrangler
Late reply but a seizure can last 8 minutes; any seizure lasting longer than five minutes is called status epilepticus and it often occurs in people with frequent seizures because enough prior seizure history has reduced your seizure threshold so much that once your brain starts that process, it can't bring it under control. It's really dangerous, though, and has a poor prognosis.

Once you've had a seizure, though, there isn't usually evidence that you had one, much less how long it lasted. Most doctors I know would just take the patient's word for it; accusing the patient of being wrong and not intervening appropriately is a huge liability issue. The most common cause of seizures of this magnitude are physical problems in the brain (stroke, tumor, haemorrhage, infection) rather than epilepsy.

If you get seizures lasting this long, you really need to have rectal benzos in the house and live with someone trained in administering it - there's a really nasty exponential time vs damage curve past the 5 minute mark

Serrath fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Mar 23, 2017

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Serrath posted:

Late reply but a seizure can last minutes; any seizure lasting longer than five minutes is called status epilepticus and it often occurs in people with frequent seizures because enough prior seizure history has reduced your seizure threshold so much that once your brain starts that process, it can't bring it under control. It's really dangerous, though, and has a poor prognosis.

Once you've had a seizure, though, there isn't usually evidence that you had one, much less how long it lasted. Most doctors I know would just take the patient's word for it; accusing the patient of being wrong and not intervening appropriately is a huge liability issue. The most common cause of seizures of this magnitude are physical problems in the brain (stroke, tumor, haemorrhage, infection) rather than epilepsy.

If you get seizures lasting this long, you really need to have rectal benzos in the house and live with someone trained in administering it - there's a really nasty exponential time vs damage curve past the 5 minute mark

8 minutes of seizing

gentle pete
Feb 21, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo

Serrath posted:

If you get seizures lasting this long, you really need to have rectal benzos in the house and live with someone trained in administering it - there's a really nasty exponential time vs damage curve past the 5 minute mark

glad to know I'll be safe if I ever have a seizure

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

gentle pete posted:

glad to know I'll be safe if I ever have a seizure

I have a gay friend named Benny, does that count?

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