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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

The worst thing to happen to Cuba in the last century is definitely socialism and not a trade embargo from the largest economy in the world 90 miles away

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


call to action posted:

Also Cuban women are loving gorgeous blends of like every race, sorry no objectify. Hybrid vigor indeed.

this is what always confused me about eugenecists. you supposedly want to improve the genetic quality of man, and you got all these different races that are supposedly so genetically different. so why hide from hybrid vigor.

oh yeah, it's actually racism with bullshit science sprinkled on top

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't even afford to move to the next county, let alone another country.

Not trying hard enough at capitalism imo. Have you tried learning to code?

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't even afford to move to the next county, let alone another country.

If Cuba was so perfect, you wouldn't have to afford anything :smug:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
It's me, the guy who is incapable of differentiating between caring about workers rights and desiring a viable social safety net and literally being Karl Marx.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Condiv posted:

this is what always confused me about eugenecists. you supposedly want to improve the genetic quality of man, and you got all these different races that are supposedly so genetically different. so why hide from hybrid vigor.

oh yeah, it's actually racism with bullshit science sprinkled on top

Ah yes well you see if you read this study quoted by Occidentaldeath dot com you'll see that big, full asses correlate with inferior IQs...

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Main Paineframe posted:

Yeah, why couldn't Obama have made a simple change that solely benefited the poor, like massively expanding Medicaid eligibility? Or infrastructure spending as economic stimulus? The joke, of course, is that he did attempt both those things, among many other policies that would have helped poor whites, but both were blocked by both state and national Republicans in the name of their ideological opposition to government programs that help poor people.

It's true that those groups' support for Dems dropped off about fifty years ago, particularly in the South...but that happens during the very height of LBJ's Great Society and his War on Poverty, when American poverty rates were dropping at unprecedented speeds (at least until Nixon dismantled key anti-poverty programs).

The narrative of liberal elitists laughing at poor rural whites from afar while doing nothing to help them is certainly a common one, but it's hard to square that with the actual facts. On the other hand, it sure bears an uncanny resemblance to cultural resentment of Northeastern elites that the South has held since before the Civil War!

lol D&D what are you doing

look, the title says why do the liberals hate poor people now

and the answer is simple

they always did

bing bing bong

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

call to action posted:

Also Cuban women are loving gorgeous blends of like every race, sorry no objectify. Hybrid vigor indeed.

Hey great point, not like there's been any ethnic mixing in the US at all, a shame there's not been some kind of...pot...in which different ethnicities could....i dont know, melt together? crazy idea, it would never work

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't even afford to move to the next county, let alone another country.

so the heart of your anger at capitalism is that you're bad at it, noted

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Reading that 9 months later is like staring into the eyes of Death.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

gobbagool posted:

so the heart of your anger at capitalism is that you're bad at it, noted

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gobbagool posted:

so the heart of your anger at capitalism is that you're bad at it, noted

lmao

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the poor are still poor because they just haven't applied themselves enough.


Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

:laffo:

jesus christ

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Main Paineframe posted:

the people who voted in Trump weren't drug addicts making $20k, they were well-off white tradesmen with pensions worried that their kids might have to go off to the godless cities to find well-paying work instead of walking into a $70k factory job right out of high school. middle-income whites went for Trump at a significantly higher rate than low-income whites

rural poverty is a real problem, but it tends to be greatly exaggerated by some and heavily minimized by others, because it's popularly associated with white people (even though the rural poor are disproportionately non-white) and thus appeals to a variety of agendas

how dare blue collar workers want a good future for their children
how dare they want jobs that pay well that don't require you to move to a city and have specialized education
who do they think they are

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Lastgirl posted:

lol D&D what are you doing

look, the title says why do the liberals hate poor people now

and the answer is simple

they always did

bing bing bong

little did they know that when LBJ declared a War on Poverty, what he actually meant was a war on poor people

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

etalian posted:

Luckily there's a theme song for bad dems to singL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqNxne97ubc

Note to anyone who skipped this: it's not just a cover of the original song, it's updated for 2017 and it's really good.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

the answer to the question is because liberals aligned themselves fully behind the Democratic party, which cares not at all about poor people, quite the opposite really. Wouldn't you love to know what Hillary said to the wall st bankers she met with? Poor people can't afford to make Hillary worth $300m so why on earth would she not hate them? I mean Pener's a great guy and all, but beyond his ballwashing of totalitarian regimes im not sure what use he could be to her or any other dem/lib politician

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Does gobbagool claim to be a liberal? I thought he was a Republican.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Does gobbagool claim to be a liberal? I thought he was a Republican.

Yes, thank you Jeb. Sort of like your namesake in fact

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

gobbagool posted:

Oh, my sweet summer child.

That DICK! posted:

Calling people sweet summer child instantly makes you look like a retard and most people will skip over your post

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Main Paineframe posted:

little did they know that when LBJ declared a War on Poverty, what he actually meant was a war on poor people

your semantics is noted but we're talking about right now

you really do not need to preface the entire history because what has relevance today holds no candle to LBJ's social security expansion a billion years ago.

You can't keep a scoreboard of a previous match, its disingenuous as gently caress to fall back on lmebo. None of this poo poo matters now when LBJ's legacy has its time in the sun and is being poo poo on~

stop flapping your gums and make your point already and read the drat title the key word is now :nallears:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Does gobbagool claim to be a liberal? I thought he was a Republican.

gobbagool is a liberal who votes Republican

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

gobbagool is a liberal who votes Republican

No, i would never claim to be a liberal, even in jest. some things are beyond the pale and should not even be joked about

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
liberals hate poor people now because liberals are secret republicans, i think thats what i got from this thread and i can walk away from this knowing this very fact and have learned something new today

its good imo that its all out there now on the table, im glad of it

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Lastgirl posted:

your semantics is noted but we're talking about right now

you really do not need to preface the entire history because what has relevance today holds no candle to LBJ's social security expansion a billion years ago.

You can't keep a scoreboard of a previous match, its disingenuous as gently caress to fall back on lmebo. None of this poo poo matters now when LBJ's legacy has its time in the sun and is being poo poo on~

stop flapping your gums and make your point already and read the drat title the key word is now :nallears:

the Dems tried to expand Medicare and spend money on infrastructure and poo poo

Republicans blocked it because they are ideologically opposed to helping the poor

no one cares, though, so LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Main Paineframe posted:

the Dems tried to expand Medicare and spend money on infrastructure and poo poo

Republicans blocked it because they are ideologically opposed to helping the poor

no one cares, though, so LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS

but liberals are secret republicans now, so they're ideologically opposed to helping the poor now

thats the gist im getting here from the "why do liberals hate poor people now" thread

liberals: secret republicans

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Anyway, liberals who hate the poor do so because they accepted the 2000s era culture war framing where it was poor rural vs rich urban.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gobbagool posted:

No, i would never claim to be a liberal, even in jest. some things are beyond the pale and should not even be joked about

if it looks like meat and tastes like cappicola...

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 244 days!
this thread is D&D as gently caress and should be moved there

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Anyway, liberals who hate the poor do so because they accepted the 2000s era culture war framing where it was poor rural vs rich urban.

no its because they're secret republicans

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
In addition to everything claimed so far, liberals get pissed at the poor because the poor tend to be distrustful of the almost religious belief that some kind of technological miracle is going to redeem the whole system and save us all not just from the negative effects of the system, but the hard reality of being a finite being. You see it so often; the liberal defending capitalism because it's led to all of these, for example, new medical technologies (that you can't afford), as if it would be somehow worse to have universally accessible non cutting edge medical technology.

Even the liberals who can't themselves afford the poo poo that's being developed are for the system that makes it, because they enjoy thinking about it existing. Addiction to novelty is blinding us.

But just you wait, you guys. We just need to keep eating poo poo a little while longer while a tiny minority reap all the benefits and, one day, the utopian nanobots they develop will blanket the world and make everything ok forever.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Main Paineframe posted:

the Dems tried to expand Medicare and spend money on infrastructure and poo poo

Republicans blocked it because they are ideologically opposed to helping the poor

no one cares, though, so LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS

Dem efforts are all compromised half-measures though. Like when Clinton wanted to expand Medicare - to 50 year olds.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Dem efforts are all compromised half-measures though. Like when Clinton wanted to expand Medicare - to 50 year olds.

if the democrats are willing compromise and consort with the republicans who are morally opposed because in their brokebrain that makes them the moral high horse then that must mean

liberals are secret republicans?

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I supported Sanders in the primary so I am definitely a secret Republican sabotaging the Democrats from the inside.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Cyron posted:

I know all of D.C. don't give a gently caress about the poor, but from the stupids on twitter, facebook and D&D they want the poor people to all die or be relocated to mega cities because this will give us trans bathrooms or something. i feel like i shouldn't vote for democrats anymore if the party think i should be dead.

I have sympathy for this view OP

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Lastgirl posted:

if the democrats are willing compromise and consort with the republicans who are morally opposed because in their brokebrain that makes them the moral high horse then that must mean

liberals are secret republicans?

imo it's more like Democrats and Republicans are both liberal parties that have degenerated in the absence of the ideological mooring provided by the Cold War. With one party steadily pulling the other further and further to the Right over time.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Main Paineframe posted:

the people who voted in Trump weren't drug addicts making $20k, they were well-off white tradesmen with pensions worried that their kids might have to go off to the godless cities to find well-paying work instead of walking into a $70k factory job right out of high school. middle-income whites went for Trump at a significantly higher rate than low-income whites

rural poverty is a real problem, but it tends to be greatly exaggerated by some and heavily minimized by others, because it's popularly associated with white people (even though the rural poor are disproportionately non-white) and thus appeals to a variety of agendas

^^^

also re: the op the reason I still vote for democrats to defeat republicans even though they're lovely fake leftists is because democrats for the most part aren't interested in legislation that explicitly oppresses me on the basis of my identity on top of everything else

I hope that is ideologically acceptable

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

cuz a lot of the current "liberals" are actually rockefeller republicans who flipped over to that side after the southern strategy.

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That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

Dreddout posted:

This_is_what_liberals_actually_believe.txt

lol they aren't the ones trying to cut social services

douchebag conservatives are

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