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Forums Terrorist posted:Adam Smith Institute. And here I was about to compare and contrast neoliberalism to libertarianism as practical ideologies, but I guess there never was much of a difference anyway.
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Forums Terrorist posted:Neoliberalism is libertarianism for people who don't want to be publically associated with free markets in children. I'd say the real difference is that libertarianism is explicitly ideological while neoliberalism pretends to be post-ideological. Libertarianism has a, deeply flawed, vision of what it considers an ideal society to look like, whereas neoliberalism never explicitly states its intentions and is more of a situational frame of mind which shapes policy. Libertarianism may be a convenient tool for Capital to exploit, but its own logical consistencies lead it into inconvenient places like advocating legalized child porn. Neoliberalism on the other hand, never has to go anywhere uncomfortable because it doesn't have a rigid set of precepts which help define it. It's the realized ideology of the bourgeoisie, and because it has become the hegemonic ideology it can also pretend that its goals are post-ideological. Austerity regimes aren't neoliberal, they're just necessary and make good sense. Only an unserious person would be against necessary cutbacks.
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Apr 28, 2017 21:51
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Still a better choice than, uh. I actually forgot Hillary's VP again, this isn't a joke. I actually wanted to say Mike Pence.
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Apr 28, 2017 23:07
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Azathoth posted:That's fair, but I guess I don't really think of Bubba as "neoliberal" He literally said "the era of big government is over. "
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zegermans posted:context, of course, being that his just lost in the midterm in ways that have never been rivaled. I'm sure if he just said "socialism now!" he could have saved welfare He said that in 1996.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:10
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People don't go neoliberal because they're afraid of being called a socialist, it's what they actually believe.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:22
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comedyblissoption posted:While there are certainly true believers, the ideological and political arguments are mostly an ex post facto explanation to provide a facade over what the donor class wants: to make themselves wealthier. It's also important to keep in mind that in most cases, our elected officials are themselves capitalists or at least wealthy professionals. They have their own class interests despite their voting constituencies. Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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