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Wafflecopper posted:This has nothing to do with the first Prey
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Bust Rodd posted:My job consists of my sitting in a tiny office watching people try to escape death traps all day and 3Romeo posted:Grenfell landlord?
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I started playing SOMA and something tells me some people itt would definitely enjoy this game. No combat or stuff like that but exploring a weird sci-fi base and its workings/computers in a horror atmosphere (and it's more System Shock-y in that regard than Prey) hits some similar enjoyment buttons for me.
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Jul 4, 2017 15:25
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Rinkles posted:Shooting a stun gun at a monitor to reactivate it strikes me as bordering on adventure game logic, rather than an example of sophisticated simulation building.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:49
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I think that's something the game actually lacks a bit - any positive sides of Typhon, any relatable agenda or goals Typhon might have. Even Caesar's Legion in Fallount: NV had a vision of the future that they considered more beneficial for humanity. Typhon exists only to destroy everything, to consume all humans. It's basically an extreme form of a horrific disease that hits incredibly fast and is insanely contagious. There's really nothing to side with here unless your starting moral stance was 'gently caress humanity and kill everybody' in which case there was nothing to ponder about to begin with.
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Jul 10, 2017 14:48
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I guess if we assume that Typhon really is only about destruction, then killing everybody in the end is a legitimate ending. In that case it's not about the moral choice of destroying humanity or not though but rather about defining what Typhon actually is. The player choice then answers the question on whether Typhon is in fact a blind disease or - in case of choosing to cooperate with humans - if its empathy opens the door to it having an actual agenda that we just haven't uncovered yet.
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Jul 10, 2017 14:57
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I don't agree with that comparison because it hasn't been shown that the Typhon actually needs to eat humans to survive. That's why predators do what they do - they'd die otherwise, that's their motivation. If Typhon felt no choice and instinctively fed off people like lions do then that kind of choice would actually be clear - do you save humans at the cost of Typhon dying or not? But that's not what we're shown in the game. As far as the scientific research on the station is concerned - Typhon may survive an indefinite ammount of time with no humans to consume at all. It's more akin to a biological weapon similar to the ideas from Prometheus.
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Jul 10, 2017 16:26
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TychoCelchuuu posted:I think my overall point is that the whole thing is part of a food chain. Whether it's a necessary one for the Typhon or not, they're here to eat us, not to destroy us. It's not like they're just a force of nature that smashes consciousness. They consume consciousness and use it to reproduce. Then you didn't like one part of that idea and argued that Typhon doesn't only exist to destroy humans, it needs them in order to survive and what Alex is doing with the simulation is like trying to switch a conscious human from eating burgers to eating vegetables. So I argued that this comparison is flawed becasue consuming humans is not the same as eating food for Typhon at all, it doesn't need to consume humans to survive. Now you argue that ok it's not eating but it's thriving etc. Uhhh, but how does it all matter? Let's go back to the original argument for a minute. What would Typhon thrive on if not on human consciousness? What's the alternative here? What would triggering empathy in Typhon achieve in this scenario? It doesn't seem like there's an equivalent of vegetables here. Or is the end goal to make Typhon feel sorry for humans and stop with all that thriving? Go thrive somewhere else? That's the reason it just doesn't make sense to me to define Typhon in these categories. It makes more sense imo that with that final choice the player defines Typhon as either: a weapon/disease existing only to destroy humans where the multiplication of Typhon is comparable to a chain reaction designed to kill even more humans rather than a species reproduction (if you choose to kill humans) OR some sort of alien race the workings of which are still beyond human comprehension but with a possibility of estabilishing a plane of communication with where human death is a process that isn't biologically necessary so a possibility to have Typhon choose not to do it exists (if you choose to cooperate).
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Jul 10, 2017 18:56
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aniviron posted:I might be misremembering this but I also seem to recall that someone in the game says the coral in part has the same neural patterns as the people who were eaten to make it. That would mean that in a fairly real sense, they're not dead, but absorbed. I find that fascinating, and between the coral and the evidence for Typhon sapience I think there's at least a choice to be made there rather than just "do you want to be bad." The fact that the Typhon are so enigmatic and hostile means most players will and probably should choose the ending that sides with Alex; I didn't because I find the Typhon quite interesting, and because I am a cranky old misanthrope. That's why phantoms still talk using voices of their "hosts" - they're just bits of neural activity firing off into the void like an octopus's cut off tentacle wiggling around when salt is applied to it. Those visions do seem like a sign of consciousness though, I agree.
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Jul 10, 2017 21:43
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People who enjoy the theme of impossible communication with an alien race because of how limited human experience and imagination of such an interaction is would probably enjoy sci-fi books from Lem. Solaris is a big recommendation in that regard - it actually shares many themes with this game. It helps that Lem was one of the best and most intelligent sci-fi authors ever.
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Jul 11, 2017 00:11
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Cojawfee posted:I beat the game, I didn't get the full effect, since unwantedplatypus blurted out the ending without spoiler tags earlier in the thread. It was still pretty cool though. Kind of want to play it some more over the next few months to get some more achievements. unwantedplatypus posted:I mean, if you don't want spoilers then don't read the thread. Palpek fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 13:53
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The original Prey was ok. The new one definitely suffered from having that name though but mainly because it's a weak brand that says nothing about the game to people that would be interested in it and can only piss off people who actually liked the original. The marketing for this game was an utter shitshow.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:07
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Yeah, that billboard was great for another reason too: it's the first thing you see through the window when you get to the proper space station and and only later in the game you discover that you can actually get to it when you're outside. It made the impression of the size of the game that much better.
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Jan 15, 2018 16:30
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All that new players should remember is that if you face a problem ask yourself "what would GLOO cannon do?". You tend to forget that the weapon exists as it's not aggressive enough in comparison to others but it's insane how many different little uses for it the devs thought of.
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Feb 26, 2018 10:47
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It also does other stuff like letting you make paths on electrified floors, it triggers cystoids to explode, it will stop various machines from working like ventilators, turrets or operator dispensers, it will stop radiation. It makes a great combo when used with turrets - freeze incoming enemies while your turrets do the damage to them to save your gun ammo. You can also block doorways with it to set traps etc.
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Feb 26, 2018 11:34
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Remember that you can also recycle those heavy objects blocking various entrances, you don't have to be able to lift them.Basic Chunnel posted:I don’t think that’s actually true. The only way to get rid of leaking radiation canisters I know of is to recycle them
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Feb 27, 2018 09:07
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It turns out you were the ployer all along.
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Feb 28, 2018 00:34
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Oh poo poo, I saw a Prey patch download and only realized the DLC dropped. Time to come back to this.
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Jun 17, 2018 08:24
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About the ending. The reason why 'it was all a dream' trope is criticized is that the plot becomes void because of it at the end. It's usually used as a lazy way to end a story where the protegonist wakes up and finds himself back to square one, nothing happened. But you can tell that they wanted Prey to specifically address that issue and imo they succeeded. What you experienced happened in the past, it was a simulation showing the sequence of real events with some room left to influence the outcomes and for you to react freely. There were consequences to the story and the choice you make at the end absolutely needs the protagonist to have gone through the simulated past events. If I tried to pinpoint the specific writing trope I'd argue that what the game uses is more of a giant flashback sequence rather than 'it was all a dream' because of how the writers addressed the problems with it. Palpek fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Nov 9, 2019 13:35
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I know the game's been out for ages, but most people in the thread are still using spoiler tags out of courtesy for new players who can wander in.
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Deathloop plays literally like Dishonored in a new universe and with a few conceptual twists. It even uses a lot of Dishonored's assets and powers. The only thing it has in common with Prey is that you get an arsenal of guns and that it has an overarching storytelling concept.
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