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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Is having children a justifiable act anymore?
 
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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998


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Mulva posted:

You do know that the ultimate conclusion of that logical train is shooting you in the face, right?

I mean misery isn't like gravity, it's not some universal truth. If people are too ignorant or deluded to know how poo poo their life is they aren't actually suffering. You on the other hand have openly come out with the statement that living in the world is horrific. So we can't say that sterilizing the world would be an act of mercy, because we can't actually say that any particular future child would suffer, but we can say that you view the world as full of suffering, and thus killing you would reduce the total of suffering in the world.
Except if we conclude that the majority of the non-consensual suffering that is involved in bringing a living being into existence revolves around their eventual death and the immediate beforehand, in which case you would have to conclude that while bringing new lives into existence is morally abhorrent, all existing lives should be kept as long and pain-free as possible.

Crowsbeak posted:

Is that not every Final Fantasy games villains reason for doing what they do?
That's mainly because they're terrible at writing villains.

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Guavanaut
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Who What Now posted:

How are you objectively measuring suffering and horror here?
Ligottis per square meter.

OldTennisCourt posted:

why are you monologuing like a villain in a Metal Gear Solid game.
It's interesting how there are so many supposed fictional villains who want to sterilize the Earth, but hardly any who want there to be as many people as possible. I think there was one guy from Captain Planet who wanted to create a population bomb to pollute the planet with billions of people because reasons.

In reality, there have probably been more authoritarian weirdos who believed in having huge families (of the right sort of people) whereas the antinatalists tended to be small religious sects like Cathars and Shakers who kept to themselves and thus didn't stay around long for obvious reasons.

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