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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Is having children a justifiable act anymore?
 
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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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I see no reason why op should not have a mandatory vasectomy . Or their tubes tied.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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Admiral Bosch posted:

No. Don't have children. It doesn't matter, because someone else will. Suffering will continue to perpetuate. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ildf8jXdM&t=210s

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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Who What Now posted:

Is mandatory sterilization ethical as well?

For op, yes.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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OwlFancier posted:

That procreation produces magnitudes more suffering than violation of bodily autonomy. in the same way it's ethical to violate someone's bodily autonomy by arresting them if they show evidence of intent to harm others, it is ethical to do so if they show evidence of intent to create life that will primarily suffer. Bodily autonomy is not inviolable, it is simply desirable to preserve it without a good reason not to.

If you could flip a switch and sterilize the entire planet, it would produce a horrible world, but it would be a very finite amount of horror. A procreating world has far, far more time to endure far, far more horror.

You could also make a somewhat awkward argument that creating life itself is a violation of the bodily autonomy of the created individual, or at least that all subsequent suffering can be traced back to the initiation of that life, incurring a degree of fault at that point, but I would probably not lead with that argument as I don't think it's as strong.

Is that not every Final Fantasy games villains reason for doing what they do?

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