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BiggerBoat posted:I'm just talking poo poo but King does have a bad track record with his opinions of movie adaptations of his work. Didn't he love Maximum Overdrive and hate The Shining? And I still think it's weird how few really good horror films we've gotten from all the great books he's written. King's never been shy about what he likes and doesn't like after the fact, but I honestly can't recall him flogging his name like this on something directly. The way I take it so far is that he's pleased at how faithful it is.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 03:21 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 23:27 |
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It was relatively rare to see anything that starred Miguel Ferrer so I absolutely cherish The Night Flier.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 04:45 |
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Trucks is a more straightforward (but somehow worse) adaptation of Stephen King's Trucks, which is also what Maximum Overdrive is based on.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 18:55 |
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Oliver Reed posted:Should I bother with the miniseries? I've seen clips and Tim Curry is excellent, but beyond that, is it worth watching? It's okay. Like you've noted, it's mostly remembered for Tim Curry, otherwise it's so blatantly a TV movie.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 18:56 |
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Yeah, he was a really inspired casting choice. A very 90's Dude but it's not like the one from the book isn't mostly a 70's stereotype.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 15:08 |
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Maybe they are waiting to see if It pulls a "Dark Tower". Yeah no way. This will probably be a Conjuring sized hit.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 16:04 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Dickens is definitely a much more apt comparison than Shakespeare, yeah. The way King names characters is extremely Dickensian, as a bonus.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2017 19:31 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Can you expand on this? I've read a lot of King but only a little Dickens. It's not quite as lurid as Dickens, Scrooge, for example is such an evocative name that it ended up in the dictionary. Other examples are Cratchit, Sowerberry, Stryver (talk about on the nose), Havisham for a twisted, covetous, bitter old woman, etc. But names like Jack Torrance, Carrie White, Randall Flagg, Kurt Barlow, John Smith etc. are definitely in that tradition, even if not quite as fanciful.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2017 19:41 |
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Cujo is a particularly inspired name. It's generally accepted as an essential writing skill, but I always associate it with Dickens because the symbolism of his character's names was always so striking. Cronenberg is also incredible at this with his pseudo-anagrammatic naming convention, who else would come up with poo poo like Stathis Borans?
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2017 20:03 |
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CelticPredator posted:It's set in the 50's. No one would've said anything in 1985 either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GBuciv20A
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2017 20:32 |
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The Cameo posted:WB threw up some b-roll: https://youtu.be/3rPsjTmJFMk This all looks crazy good.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 02:07 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I hope when they do Part 2 they include Eddie's zombie/leper baseball game! And make it look as cool as the comic it's based on:
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2017 22:23 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:I love how much King's love of EC horror comics just shines through in his work. His best short stores wouldn't be at all out of place in Tales From the Crypt, Vault of Horror or Haunt of Fear. EC Comics blew my mind when I first saw them in the 90's, I can't imagine being some kid in the 50's flipping through one at the drugstore.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2017 00:22 |
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GonSmithe posted:It is going to absolutely loving destroy the box office. The Hitman's Bodyguard has been number one four weeks in a row. I'm gonna make a prediction that this will be a Sixth Sense sized hit.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 00:42 |
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The Cameo posted:You think it’s going to make almost $700 million? Yeah maybe not that much. It will definitely do as well or better than Conjuring, which was like 350-400?
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 01:36 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it definitely has to be said that the marketing machine for this movie has been off the hook. plus it feels a little like a right place/right time thing. Definitely.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 04:38 |
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This thing is sold the hell out. Gonna hope for the best on a 10:15.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 21:28 |
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Got back from a late showing - Muschetti was the perfect director for this film and I can't stress that enough. This movie is gonna annihilate this weekend.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 05:55 |
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Nroo posted:Just loving realized the movie made Mike a Killer of Sheep... Yessir
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 06:34 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I didn't stay past the credits. Was there a stinger? Yes. It said Pennywise the Clown WILL return, in IT: Chapter Two!
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 15:19 |
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An Apple A Gay posted:Did they include the dopey sex scene like in the book? You know it and it was EXPLICIT AS ALL HELL!!!
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 16:40 |
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Tim Whatley posted:Do you legit see Georgie losing his arm? Because I didn't think they'd do it being how graphic a scene it is. Yeah, it surprised the hell out of me.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 18:22 |
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clown shoes posted:I loved everything about the kids show. The kids show kicked rear end.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 20:49 |
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TheHoosier posted:See I didn't even really catch that. I'm not sure how you couldn't catch this, haha.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 00:47 |
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TheHoosier posted:I saw it, I didn't equate it to his "float" schtick. That's what I mean. I'm curious what you thought of it then.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 00:51 |
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Literally every complaint about this film is exactly the same as in Mama - the monster as such is as much a character as any of the people in it, there's no clear demarcation as to what is real and what isn't (the film is too blatantly surreal), the kids are TOO likeable, etc. Bodes well for part 2.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 16:15 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:one of the problems of the movie is the monster isn't much of a character (in comparison to the book). The monster is simply a succinct character in the film because a filmmaker must characterize him visually, exactly as in Mama. His characterization is dependent on who he appears to, see: the very odd appearance of Ed's mother, note what is on the TV when we see Beverly come home the first time (a home that looks like a labyrinthine sewer), the still figures surrounding Ben...
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 17:25 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:films are not silent nowadays. There's sound in those parts, they use it pretty effectively, too! Uncle Boogeyman posted:I can safely say I would not have wanted Pennywise to be more of a character in this movie. He couldn't be more of a character, he's all over the film. One of the bullies is designed to resemble him. They can't even escape in books or in TV or looking at old photos. Giving him more lines would probably be stupid, I agree.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 17:50 |
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clown shoes posted:IT made $51 million on Friday. Ridiculous.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 17:52 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Yeah I feel like that was their way of teasing the idea and they'll go into it more in the sequel. I also agree that it would work much better with the adults doing it.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 17:55 |
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Tired Moritz posted:how much bike riding is there in the film Instead of establishing shots there are bike riding scenes.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 18:40 |
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The Cameo posted:You think it’s going to make almost $700 million? By the way, this is tracking on part with the first Hobbit Movie and POTC: At World's End, both of which made around a billion worldwide. I think this has the potential to be an insanely big movie.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 19:07 |
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"I had to brace myself for the scary parts. 1 out of 10."
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 19:38 |
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toiletbrush posted:I read OP as saying 'it was bad as a horror film because the scares were mostly jump-scares that were massively telegraphed'. Are you saying that's an inaccurate description of the film, or that it's not a valid criticism? It's a goofy thing to say. Of course the scares are telegraphed. It's a horror movie.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 20:06 |
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Das Boo posted:Like I said, the head in the branches scene works because you were looking for a monster and were just met with a dismal thing looking you in the face. The inclusion of Insidious and Nightmare on Elm Street are apt here, as both movies, like this one, literally use most if not all of these tricks and largely for the same reason - the nature and source of the horror element.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 20:40 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Would you care to explicate your thesis? Absolutely not. Think on it.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 20:54 |
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Das Boo posted:I'll also say the opening was effective in taking a known and turning it into an unknown: A clown should not be in a sewer. He seems familiar, friendly and charismatic, but he should not be in a sewer. The situation is wrong. I also liked Tim Curry's reading of, "Oh, yes, Georgie. They float." in the original because there was loving lust behind it and it just made you retreat harder. All the new film does is elaborate on this. The situation is abuse, stagnation, neglect and trauma, parasitic feeding on the emotions of children, "infections of lust", etc. Uncle Boogeyman posted:like 80% on the conservative side. Very very conservative.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 21:03 |
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If you got rid of scare chords and surprise scares you pretty much would not have horror movies. What you're probably looking for there is like a creepy mystery maybe.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 21:12 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Actually, the opposite is true. The "horror movie" as you're aware of it is an inverse of your own expectations - horror is a liminal state. It's only when it crosses that threshold does it really exist, otherwise it's just a bad suspense film with annoying sounds. Not really, this is just appealing to propriety. This is the old "2001 isn't a sci-fi movie because it's good" thing. Genre filmmaking is good because it has no obligation to be serious or tactful. Das Boo posted:I'm even pretty sure this is Junji Ito's entire philosophy on horror. He's also made a lot of stuff like Gyo and Hellstar Remina which are absolutely ludicrous in addition to being quite scary.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 21:20 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 23:27 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:That's not what I'm talking about at all, you've completely misread me. You know nothing of my meaning! How you ever got to make a post about anything is totally amazing. That horror (what actually scares you) is personal is obvious, but we're talking about horror films.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 21:28 |