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I guess I just don't see intent or anger. The thing that gets me is the way he sidesteps as contact is made. If he really wanted to deck him I feel like it would have looked a lot different. It looks like he is trying to avoid him with his body but his arms go up. And gently caress I don't like the dude. I still hate him for his lazy as poo poo play in 3OT against the Rangers in 2012. This isn't the hill I want to die on so I'll drop it.
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Friendly reminder that Jonathan Toews will make $10.5 million against the cap for the next 6 seasons.
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Apr 21, 2017 14:59
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Pornographic Memory posted:Uhhhh toews scored 33% of the Blackhawks playoff goals while only taking up about 15% of the cap, sounds like they're getting their bang for their buck if you ask me..... Sorry all I'm seeing is a -5 in 4 games (Hawks were a -12 in ES goals overall). So 42% of the ES goals against came with him on the ice so he's worth like -9% of the cap IMO. Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Apr 21, 2017 15:21
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I know goalie performances have ebbs and flows but man the Jackets really were out-goaltended pretty badly. I get that many of the goals Bob had no chance on but he really let in quite a few bad goals while Fluery somehow was solid, even if it did look shaky.
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Apr 21, 2017 16:57
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Pornographic Memory posted:Luckily for Bobrovsky the Vezina votes are already in though. Also it's pretty funny that Torts is going to win the Jack Adams for the radical stratagem of having his goalie stop a lot of pucks while having Aaron Portzline write an endless supply of puff pieces about what a nice guy he's become. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-FcxlEMaw Except Mr. Burns is Torts, Darryl Strawberry is Bobrovsky, and Smithers is the hockey media.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:22
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Kilza posted:You seem to be forgetting that Patrick Roy won in 2014 and Bob Hartley won in 2015 despite neither of them being good coaches, rather their teams just getting really lucky and landing in a playoff spot. I don't think Torts should win either but Columbus actually played some good puck possession hockey this year unlike the other teams you mentioned. I don't think Columbus will compete for the division next year but I could see them being a playoff team again, even if/when Bob regresses.
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Apr 21, 2017 22:04
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Duke Chin posted:Go Nashville v. Caps  
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Apr 23, 2017 23:57
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So was Zaitsev still concussed when he returned against the Capitals? He was terrible in the series and now there are reports he isn't going to the World Championships because he isn't medically cleared or some poo poo.
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Apr 24, 2017 20:44
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eXXon posted:Why in the gently caress would they sign him for 1.25x4 years and then play him every playoff game including the elimination game where he went -2 in a 2-1 game? Sorry to break it to you dude but he makes $2.5M against the cap, not $1.25M.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:49
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Paulocaust posted:Matt Martin was an integral part of a great energy line that was easily the Leafs most consistent, and you can't see the value of his forechecking ability and the fact that he's the only Leaf that consistently finishes his hits then please stop giving opinions on Hockey. Agreed they were very consistent. So were the Avalanche.
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Apr 25, 2017 14:50
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Best player is probably still Crosby. But straight up MVP to his team is McDavid. (Goalies shouldn't be nominated otherwise they should win the award every year)
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May 2, 2017 00:36
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Spring Break My Heart posted:I don't understand how people could still believe this. Goalies add more wins/losses than any skater so the Hart winner would literally be the Vezina winner every year.
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May 2, 2017 04:50
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Matt Zerella posted:Yeah he's locked up for another 2 years I think. I'm sick and tired of how he flashes potential and then disappears for 2 weeks. Isn't that like every 20-30 goal scorer? Bad players are consistent because they never score, elite players are consistent because they score a lot and rarely have long periods of poor play, and pretty good players go hot and cold. Probably safe to say other 20-30 goal scorers do the same thing as Kreider but I haven't actually paid close attention.
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May 10, 2017 15:54
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So Ovechkin had a lower body injury and was on pain-killing injections. Not going to Worlds which is a big deal for him. Sucks but I can't really complain about injuries given the team they lost to. Like honestly I'm looking at the series and it really just seems like it was Fleury being much, much better than Holtby which decided the series.
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May 11, 2017 17:08
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HappyHippo posted:I guess this is from when his knee bent the wrong way? That's my guess too and I assume we'll find out tomorrow when players do their exit interviews.
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May 11, 2017 17:56
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Ginette Reno posted:Partly goaltending, partly luck. Partly really bad breakdowns against at awful times. They cleaned that up from games 5 to 7 but games 1 & 2 they gave the Pens some easy goals. Fwiw Holtby was pretty good in game 7 and it wasn't on him that they lost that one. Holtby was fine in Games 5-7 but he never stole a game and he finished with .887 in the series. Even if the Capitals gave up some odd-man rushes that is a really atrocious save percentage. Game 7 was a disaster from the entire roster but the Capitals probably win in 6 if Holtby doesn't let in a few of the soft goals from Games 1-4.
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May 11, 2017 19:11
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't think the Caps should freak out and change a bunch though. As maddening as it is you probably just keep soldiering on with that core and hope the bounces work out eventually. It's not that statistically improbable to have the playoff failures they've had. They're going to have to make changes though due to all of their expiring contracts. Forwards: Kuznetsov: RFA Burakovsky: RFA Oshie: UFA Williams: UFA Connolly: RFA Winnik: UFA Defensemen: Orlov: RFA Schmidt: RFA Alzner: UFA Shattenkirk: UFA Carlson: UFA in 2018 Orpik: SIGNED FOR 2 MORE YEARS AT $5.5M BABY Goalie: Grubauer: RFA They're almost surely going to lose Oshie, Williams, Alzner, and Shattenkirk this season and possibly Carlson next season. And possibly Schmidt or Grubauer in expansion. They have no really significant prospects in the pipeline other than like Samsonov but he's not really at a position of need. Vrana and Bowey were getting healthy scratched in Hershey and those were always thought to be 2 of their best prospects. I still think they have a good young defensive base with Orlov, Niskanen, Schmidt, and Carlson and Holtby *should* be good, but aside from like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky their good forwards are all getting old. They can probably kick the can one or two more times but their window is closing very quickly.
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https://twitter.com/JJReganCSN/status/863088816986488832 https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/863087433403031553 https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/863082132763275270 That seems like a pretty big difference of opinion between players/coach.
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May 12, 2017 18:55
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Ginette Reno posted:Reading some of the comments from the Caps exit interviews today and it sounded like Shattenkirk is pretty set on testing free agency (aka going to the Rangers) whereas Oshie would prefer to stay in Washington. Yeah Shattenkirk is gone. Oshie sounds like he wants to stay but if the Capitals can't/won't make a competitive offer I find it hard to believe Oshie turning down millions of dollars.
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Porrima posted:"I do not understand/trust factual data; I rather trust people in positions of authority when they say something" -The half of America that voted for Donald J. Trump
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Yeah definitely, but they also have a handful younger guys in Hershey who are probably ready and will push for roster spots in the bottom 6 this coming year. Vrana, Barber, Boyd, Stephenson, O'Brien, etc I'm not really sold on their AHL talent at forward. Aside from Vrana those guys are very unimpressive IMO. They should certainly get their shots but I'm not expecting much. I mentioned this before but I really think they need to look at trading Carlson. He's a UFA next season and he's going to be getting a huge contract and I'm not really sure he's going to deserve it. He's not really a #1D. He's more similar to Shattenkirk in that he's a nice complementary player but he doesn't drive possession and he's not really very good defensively. If Adam Larsson can return Taylor Hall then trading Carlson should net a great return as well. D is a position of strength for the Capitals (Orlov, Schmidt, and Niskanen is a great base to work from and I like their defensive prospects) but their forwards need help, especially if both Oshie and Williams walk.
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May 12, 2017 20:44
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Jamwad Hilder posted:At some point the Caps just can't be so ridiculously deep though. There are weaknesses in their forward group, for sure, but I struggle to think of a deeper team in the league in terms of the talent they can ice on all four lines. Pittsburgh and Chicago, I guess? At some point, basically this offseason really, it's just not going to be feasibly anymore and they're going to need to plug in more AHL guys who maybe aren't as good. Not saying they can get Taylor Hall for Carlson but there have to be several teams looking for a RD who can play on the PP and would be willing to give up a good forward in order to make it work. Toronto and Tampa Bay come to mind but I'm sure there are others. I guess I just don't want to see the Capitals half-rear end it. Their AHL forwards probably aren't good enough on a competitive team so they either need to reload and try one or two final times with Ovechkin which would mean acquiring a few more good forwards, or blow it up completely.
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I thought Shattenkirk was actually pretty good for Washington. Anyone is going to look worse alongside Brooks Orpik and when he was with Schmidt surprise he looked pretty good again. Not going to be a stud #1 anywhere but as a #2 or #3 you could do a whole lot worse.
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T-Bone posted:I think he's best off making 9m a year with the Devils Yeah I've always thought the Devils make the most sense for Shattenkirk. They can afford to overpay him and they pretty badly need help on the blue line.
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tofes posted:nah it's cool to remember that professional athletes are still people even though we don't act like it most of the time No one's making GBS threads on him for pursuing his interests. They're making GBS threads on him because his art is bad, like most artists'.
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In other Caps news, their AHL affiliate in Hershey just lost a Game 7 at home to Providence while Barry Trotz was in attendance. Good preparation for them IMO.
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Brian MacLellan just held a press conference and basically said nothing would change. I guess this is fine because they crushed the regular season and were an average goaltending performance away from winning in round 2, but man if ever I were to put stock in intangibles it would be with the Capitals. Something isn't right there and I feel like if any team needs a shakeup it's them.
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I think it's fair to question Trotz's abilities as a coach especially in the playoffs. He's been terrible at adapting to the opposition's strategies and is often slow to make changes. He tried to play run and gun with the Leafs for 4 games, failed to recognize Orlov and Niskanen were his best pairing until the middle of the postseason, stubbornly left Ovechkin and Backstrom together for almost the entire season despite them not having chemistry any more, played 7D despite 2 of them (Orpik and Alzner) being garbage, healthy-scratched Nate Schmidt despite him being probably their third or fourth best D all season, failing to adapt to the Penguins' counter-attacking strategy until it was too late, etc. Some local podcasts put it best when they said Trotz didn't seem like he even gameplanned for the Leafs or Penguins, but rather reacted to what they were doing after a few games had been played (going into 2-1 and 3-1 series deficits, respectively). He seems slow to adapt and unwilling to experiment and that's really bad when things don't go according to plan in the postseason. Sullivan, on the other hand, seemed prepared for the Capitals in the first 2 games and made great adjustments going into Game 7 and Trotz wasn't able to do anything in response. His regular season record has been great but he's also had a fantastic roster, great injury luck, and opponents who can't specifically gameplan against the Capitals like they can in the playoffs. Is there a better option out there? Maybe not, but I think Trotz's time should be up in DC.
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I alternate between thinking Leonsis is a pretty good owner (with his passion for the team and choking a fan) and thinking he's just a few steps from Dan Snyder (conspiracy bullshit and meddling in head coaching decisions). Wasn't Leonsis also one of the major forces behind the 2012 lockout (along with Jacobs)? Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:"League favors X" conspiracy breakdown What about head coaches? Pretty sure Trotz bitched about favorable treatment to the Penguins last season and I wanted to punch him for it. Though I suppose he could have just been doing it for gamesmanship in which case I guess it's fine.
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glynnenstein posted:IMO, he's been a very good owner ever since he learned his big lesson with Jagr. His foibles are mostly related to his enthusiasm and passion for the team, which I can easily forgive. He might have some wacky and indefensible theories, but as long as they don't impact the team I don't really care. I mean, almost everybody as rich as him is detached from reality, but at least Ted's a nice guy. How much he's had to do with head coach choices I don't know; hopefully the Jagr thing carries over there are he has a lot of respect for what the other guys in the room have to say. On the other hand Leonsis hired Oates, not McPhee, and that set the team back a few years. Trotz was also picked by Leonsis directly and there are already rumors that MacLellan has his hands tied with Trotz which is why he's neither been fired nor extended. It was really odd to hear MacLellan talk about Trotz needing to be better next season. Usually GMs either fully back their head coach or just fire them and lame duck situations don't occur very often. It feels like they are going to fire Trotz the moment they slump next season in which case why not just fire him now? There seems to be a huge disconnect between GM and coach and I wouldn't be surprised if Leonsis hiring Trotz is part of the reason why.
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Ginette Reno posted:You want to time the firing of the coach for mid season because then you get the new coach bump and temporarily become a top 5 possession team and win a cup. Nah they are going to intentionally tank their possession game and rely on counter-attacking in an effort to emulate the Penguins run this season. Except the Capitals will miss the playoffs completely.
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Ginette Reno posted:I probably wouldn't blow up the core but they could use *something*. Maybe they should trade one of their core pieces. Neal for Hornqvist has worked out quite well for the Pens. It changed their look a little bit and definitely cut down on their propensity to melt down with bad penalties. A trade like that which is more or less a lateral move can still be good I think just to change up the culture a bit. This is kind of where I'm at. Carlson makes the most sense given his contract situation and trade value around the league for right handed defensemen but honestly I'm warming up to the idea of trading Ovechkin. Not because of his intangibles or leadership but because he's just not worth his contract any more and it looks like he's slowing down. $9.5M off the books can get a lot. Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/jonathantoews/status/870786821046681601 I wonder what Scott Hartnell thinks about this.
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Just get rid of offside reviews. Who cares if that one time a dude was like 10 feet offside and they missed it? It doesn't outweigh the bullshit of offside reviews slowing down the game and creating instances where a goal scored 30 seconds after the puck enters the zone is called back.
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Citizen Tayne posted:The Pittsburgh Penguins have won the Stanley Cup. Congratulations friend.
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Duckman2008 posted:Caps trade Ovi to Vegas, Vegas wins cup in first season, with Ovie scoring the game 7 OT winner in all 4 rounds. I'd be okay with this.
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Capitals will likely be 7-3-1. My guesses: Forwards Ovechkin Backstrom Kuznetsov Burakovsky Johansson Wilson Eller Defensemen Niskanen Orlov Carlson Goalie Holtby It'll likely be Grubauer or Schmidt that gets selected. Honestly I'd like to see them try to trade Carlson for a good young forward and protect that forward and expose either Eller or Wilson in his place. I really want them to keep Nate Schmidt. He good.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:He seems like he'll be a perfectly fine middle-six forward but nothing special. Statistically Athanasiou is actually really drat good. Over the past 2 seasons he's behind only Matthews in terms of goals/60 (min. 1000 minutes) and is #32 in points/60 at even strength. Obviously there is context missing from those numbers but he's also likely to improve since he's only 22 and he also has been skating alongside some pretty crappy Detroit forwards for most of his time there, often on the 3rd or 4th line. I'd say Athanasiou is likely a top line talent (if not now then soon) who is being held back by some questionable coaching decisions.
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Bobby Mac saying Stepan is involved in some trade chatter. He doesn't usually say anything unless it's fairly solid info so maybe he'll be dealt soon.
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