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Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

So I'm slowly crawling back to SAS/Habs fandom. Am I a playoff poster now? :(

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Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Furnaceface posted:

I feel like this is tempting fate.

The Caps are gonna get the presidents trophy which guarantees a hilarious second round flame out

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

I hope the Habs win the cup so I can spend the rest of my life hearing how Shea Weber is better than PK and Goldblum is a genius at building teams.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Mike_V posted:

I am not ready for Playoff Posters though.

Dehumanize yourself and embrace the poo poo posts


Aurora posted:

I just post infrequently, am I cool?

Yea

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

It's gonna be funny when Canada fields a Spengler Cup caliber team at the SK Olympics

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

New York Islanders?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Jim Rutherford was only supposed to be around for like a year at the start so maybe he's ready to step down sometime soon? Maybe that's all been long-forgotten now that he's a success again and everyone kinda loves him save for the fact that he indirectly murdered Despres

I thought he was keeping the seat warm for the AGM over there in Pitt? Is he still around?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

They should fire him and hire someone committed to the youth movement. A certain Pierre McGuire perhaps.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Are there any other blogging superstars that ditched us for greener pastures besides r-lam and Chemmy? I bet VJeff could have made it if only he had posted his essays faster.

Also good thread title

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Oh my god what the gently caress is going on in Buffalo

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

xzzy posted:

Bowman is REALLY MAD GUYS

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/an-angry-stan-bowman-says-changes-coming-to-blackhawks-after-unacceptable-playoff-exit/


What's he going to do about it?


Oh okay, that answers everything.

Hey we got some guys that hate to lose over here... want them?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Aphrodite posted:

LA was also a SAS pet team.

Eh only their first cup run. Everyone promptly turned on them afterwards.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

gently caress this stupid team I regret expressing any hope when we hired Julien. I regret coming back to root for this poorly run stupid organization. I'm looking forward to Goldblum following up last offseason with an even worse one this year. Looking forward to protecting pluggers while we lost actual good hockey players to the expansion draft. Can't wait for the Pacioretty needs to be traded hot takes. gently caress everything. Fire Goldblum and steal Julien Brisebois back please for the love of god.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

grack posted:

Goldblum's gotta be fired after this, right? Every move he made over the last few years with the possible exception of Radulov has been a disaster.

There's still an expansion draft left to gently caress up first

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Aye Doc posted:

https://twitter.com/scolemanctv/status/856127102982254592

you don't know what you got till it's gaaaaawn

Trade him so he gets the Cup he deserves. He deserves better than to have his career wasted and never to sniff a cup like Hank and the Rangers.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

The Leafs are gonna be so good next year goddamnit :smith:

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

iospace posted:

NOW ACCEPTING TITLES FOR THE NEW LOSERS, QUOTE THIS WITH IDEAS

Make like a tree and gently caress you Bruins

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Hi, Loser thread

So, what do the Leafs need most in the offseason? Offensive depth? I kind of don't want them to trade almost anyone they have other than to upgrade Matt Martin to almost literally anyone else

Buzz I saw on hockey twitter seems to be that they're 1 top D and a solid goaltender away from being legit cup contenders. Dellow suggested throwing gobs of money at Shattenkirk or trading a bunch of draft picks for someone like OEL.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

MononcQc posted:

I had to... poor Carey



Needs a cowboy hat

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

iospace posted:

Doesn't answer the question

At the end of the year press conference, Julien re-iterated that Galchenyuk is a Center. Goldblum said he's a Winger.

Fire Bergevin. Fire Therrien Jr. in the AHL.

https://twitter.com/KyleMedeiros_/status/857027434352328704

The Fire Juliens will probably pick up when he plays Steve Ott for the 40th game in a row while sitting Charles Hudon in the pressbox.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Kilza posted:

I'm guessing if Bergevin was to get fired Julien Brisebois (Tampa's AGM) would be the popular choice to replace him, which seems like it'd be an improvement. Of course, there's also the comedy option of Patrick Roy. :getin:

This is the ideal scenario for me. My wildest dream is Julien Brisebois takes over, gives AGM to Timmins if he wants it, and then throws money at hockey excel nerds.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

stab posted:

Trevor Timmins can gently caress right off. Here is case in point.




Did the "If the Habs had left things alone and just used the loving draft like not morons what would the roster look like exercise" (Only active players, in the NHL or AHL with game experience)


gee, I wonder where the Habs have difficulty in drafting, what positions do they consistently fail to identify NHL'ers :stare:





Max Pacioretty Alex Galchenyuk Brendan Gallagher
Artturi Lehkonen Mikhail Grabovski Nikita Scherbak
Jacob De La Rose Tomas Plekanec Sven Andrighetto
Nikita Scherbak Ryan White Michael McCarron
Charles Hudon




Ryan McDonagh :sigh: P.K. Subban :sigh:
Andrei Markov Mark Streit
Ron Hainsey Francois Beauchemin
Nathan Beaulieu Alexei Emelin
Mikhail Sergachev Jarred Tinordi


Carey Price
Jaroslav Halak



let that sink

the Montreal Canadiens only have 13 active forwards IN THE ENTIRE NHL who were drafted by them.

A lot of development is due to bad AHL coaching, bad organizational philosophy and bad organizational priorities. A lot of this I dump on Bergevin and his culture and character bullshit.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Matt Zerella posted:

I kept hearing rumors that MTL had soured on McD before he was traded. What the hell was up with that? Bullshit or what?

Pierre Gauthier soured on him, or allegedly always hated his guts. This was during the period where Gainey lost his daughter due to a boating accident so Gauthier, while still AGM, was effectively taking on GM responsibilities. The scuttlebutt is that Gauthier thought McD would amount to nothing due to his limited offensive game, but even back then the reports were that McD was super solid in his own end and slowly adding some dishing qualities on the other side of the rink. Some confluence of events led to Gainey wanting to blow up the Koivu core and restart fresh with new core pieces so you got the McD for Gomez trade and then the Gionta + Camalleri signings in the same summer.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

MononcQc posted:

Them's fightin' words :quebec:

Va chier osti

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Kucherov is heroic and I will shield him from the 8 million dumb remarks thrown his way.

:agreed:

Wonderllama posted:

It's killorn. Killorn just got paid and he bad. But don't think that palat and Johnson didn't get some shade too. Filpulla actually had a decent year for himself. Kucherov is handsome and can say whatever he wants. So it is written so it shall be done.

Yeah this seems to back it up. 3 peopled got a deal last summer: Stamkos, Killorn and Hedman. It's easy to eliminate 2 of those 3.

http://www.rawcharge.com/2017/4/26/...-hedman-killorn


Hey that was not bad

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Martytoof posted:

Oh look I'm loving angry at Bergevin all over again.

I, on the other hand, finally... FINALLY hit the acceptance stage I think.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Boring local HAS twitter news. Francois Gagnon started randomly getting into a slapfight with Andrew Berkshire tonight for some reason.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Does anyone on SAS have a 'The Athletic' subscription? I've been thinking about pulling the trigger. It's Toronto sports beat which I'm not really interested in, but the occasional Dellow deep dive and reading some Mirtle pieces might be worth it even if I don't give a poo poo about Toronto teams or their sister Chicago site.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Columbus improved 32 pts largely because of Bobbo's play though, so it's not unreasonable to give him the nod

I hope Torts wins the Adams for the combined hilarity of Babcock missing out on it again, and for Torts getting fired in 1-2 seasons.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Powershift posted:

The 2010 gold medal game is still the highest rated TV broadcast in canada of all time.

Half of the country watched the whole game, over 80% watched at least part.

That is how hockey gains fans.

Aww you just reminded me about everyone taking their pee breaks at once





How was this 7 years ago :negative:

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

deoju posted:

I know I'm late to the twitter party but, I'd like to present a one man play, in 5 acts...

"Holy poo poo, Professional Hockey Player Zach Boychuk followed me on twitter!:dance:
Wait, what?:confused:
I follow some players and I've retweeted Bob Mckenzie like twice, and tweeted at r-lam once, that's weird.:raise:
Oh, he follows half a million people.:ohdear:
I'm not special after all. :("

-Me, earlier tonight.

PS I'm soliciting your recommendations on who to follow.

Hockey Stat Nerds:
@dellowhockey
@IneffectiveMath
@datarink
@MimicoHero
@AndrewBerkshire


@mirtle
James Mirtle is like one of the best beat guys / mainstream guys out there and he's a good follow even if you're totally not into the Toronto teams.

I follow a bunch more but those are the ones that are the best I think

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Jamwad Hilder posted:

He definitely used to be but I don't think so anymore. Ever since he started his new website or whatever he's become more and more of a Toronto homer, which is totally fine - that's his audience, but I unfollowed because I got sick of it.

Yeah at this point I like his feed because he's retweeting his good website writers (like dellow's comeback) so it's made me seriously consider getting a subscription just to read dellow articles. Sorta the same thing with Eliotte Friedman. He used to put good stuff out but ever since he's had his brain infected by HNIC/Sportsnet it's not been as frequent.

Technetium posted:

To pile on if you want hockey stat nerds:

@domluszczyszyn
@mannyelk
@garrethohl
@dtmaboutheart
@chartinghockey

Are some good ones doing good work.

Thanks for this. I've been away from the league all year so I don't know who the new faces / who got snatched up. It's funny because based on Tyler Dellow, some NHL GMs have secret twitter accounts that just follow hockey stat nerds but they would never admit publically to putting value in fancystats.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Pornographic Memory posted:

tbf if you told me that some gms were following fancystats guys just to pull up their tweets at the office and go "hey guys, get a load of what this nerd is saying :jerkbag:" i would believe you

Speaking of which...

https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/861603827476312064

NBA owners gauging fan interest based on Reddit? :lol:

Imagine Jeremy Jacobs going to HFBoards after they traded Seguin away

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Mike_V posted:

I know teams have a couple of assistant coaches to run the D, forwards, and goalies, but do any teams employ someone exclusively for the PP or PK? Usually it's delegated to an existing coach, but if neither of those coaches are any good at PP or PK, what's stopping a team from hiring a dude to focus specifically on special teams?

I believe this is the case on the Coyotes? They fired a couple of people a few weeks ago and I think someone was exclusively the PP guy.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Jordan7hm posted:

I met the guy who Montreal fired (or didn't renew his contract or whatever) last off-season and I think he's probably really smart and I totally can see why he would get fired because I don't think he had a filter.

He told you that you have bad hockey opinions eh?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

So was Marc Staal always bad or did he just get old and slow ever since he got concussed by his brother?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

yellowcar posted:

I would take Eberle at 6M over Shaw at 3.9M.

I'd take a bag full of sawdust and sandpaper over Shaw

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Suspicious posted:

I hope the Montreal Canadien Hockey Club does something about the whole "trade talented players and sign useless puchmen" thing.

Nah this year we're just gonna not protect them and let them get expansion drafted away

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Why would an all-star d man go to an expansion team

Jeff Finger money

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Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

e: not the gdt

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