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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Have the Oilers given up on Nurse yet?

He's exempt.

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

A 21 year old defenseman was inconsistent? What a loving bum.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

Trying to figure out who'll be taken from the oilers. Jujhar Khaira, Griffin Reinhart, pouliot or brossoit. See ya juj I guess?

Ya probably.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

El Gallinero Gros posted:

That's pretty generous. Inconsistent implies that he sometimes plays well. 11 points in 44 games doesn't indicate that he played well on offence, and his fancystat comparisons are people like Zack Bogosian and Erik Gudbranson. If he doesn't play well this upcoming year, the Oilers need to look elsewhere.

This is really bad and wrong.

His points/60 at 5x5 had him at number 68 in the league for defensemen with 500 minutes or more.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

If you look at literally every stat from 15/16 to 16/17 he made huge strides.

He's fine.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

I don't think that's really all that accurate.

If they're smart they can do both. There are a bunch of meh to good FAs that they can overpay on short term deals that are just as good as whatever they might grab out of the expansion draft, but they can't really turn those FAs into prospects until next deadline at the earliest. So grab dudes to trade NOW and then sign vets to fill in the lineup. Team is probably just as good plus you get more picks.

I've had this inkling since they signed Shipachyov and were rumoured to be bringing over Dadonov.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Because that moves back the pipeline by a year.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

That being said I could see them taking a guy like pouliot and giving him a shitload of pp time and then flipping him at the deadline

I'm not sure that someone like Pouliot gets the same return at the deadline as someone like Reinhart does immediately though.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

looking around the league im not sure reinhart is the 10th best d available let alone 6th

I mean I think they could take him and immediately trade him to like Montreal for a 2nd or 3rd.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Sometimes they result in Brian Burke trying to rent a barn to stage a fist fight so really someone needs to offer sheet Sam Bennett.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Aphrodite posted:

McDavid's not getting out of Edmonton until he's a UFA, and then it will likely be immediate.

Nah

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Aye Doc posted:

it gets better. he was on tsn1260 talking about it and, well

https://twitter.com/john4bes/status/875363391707021313

Goddamn Chiarelli is stupid.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

On the other hand Chiarelli does a lot of dumb poo poo.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Seems good for both teams? Tampa had some issues with expansion that this solves.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

i am the bird posted:

How the gently caress does Drouin not get a 1st?

Sergachev is probably better than a first?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Aphrodite posted:

Sergachev had zero growth in his +1 season, that's usually a red flag.

I dont think this is true. He was really really good by the end of the year.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

corn on the cop posted:

So, the trade is essentially Drouin for Sergachev straight up.

Plus the forward Tampa gets to keep in the expansion draft now.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Hahah ya right they're going to do what they did with Hamhuis.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

NHL rosters have more room for meh players though because of how bad most 4th lines and 7th dmen are. NFL and MLB rosters don't really have room to use guys in the same way.

Like Doan is still good enough for most teams 4th lines at the very least.


^^^so does Jagr.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

He had an NMC

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

ThinkTank posted:

Yes, but I'm sure if Chayka said "Chicago are interested in you, do you want to go and try and win a cup there this year? We won't be re-signing you," he'd agree to a trade.

I'm not sure that's true.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


I mean that basically says to me he wouldn't go.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Hey Shane, let's meet at the chilis just down the street from the rink. It's nice!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Pungry posted:

I genuinely have no clue why the Panthers are doing this. They saw how bad their top-six depth was last year when Huberdeau was out forever, so why are they giving up two potential top-six forwards for nothing? The defense is a solid group of six but having all six rather than two top-six forwards is bad.

Probably trading a dman for a forward.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


I'd much rather Demers!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Oscar Klefbom was robbed.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

mennoknight posted:

Someone please explain to me why the Wild are going to trade a defenceman. The expansion draft is over so why wouldn't they keep all of their good defencemans? Why is the narrative that they need to trade matt dumba, who is really good and young and cheap?

Well it's trade him this year or next year. Their D corps is expensive.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Vegas needs AHL forwards too.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

(Opens my big Christmas present) oh wow you got me a… strome

Oh a knock off dman from londonderry mall named Dhickey?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Jesus Christ chiarelli is a retard.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

I'm very excited for this newly created cap room going to Kris Russell and a long term deal.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

How do you get a second round pick for tvr and only a fifth for schlemko?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Of course he is

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

Im not sure if building a team exclusively through good G committee D and letting good C bank shots in off of 20 year olds on cheap deals is the right plan but it is a plan

Hey there's a couple giant oafs who also get pucks knocked on off of them!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Oilers play in Vegas on my and Mcdavid's birthday.


Guess I know what I'm doing!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

violent sex idiot posted:

airfare and a ticket probably cheaper than a home game

Living in Toronto? Ya probably though I'll get to go to that game for free.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Doesn't Murphy kinda suck?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Congrats to the Blackhawks for downgrading at two positions and saving 200k in cap room.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

grack posted:

Seriously though, this has already been a super loving awesome offseason.

I disagree!!!

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

That's a weird quote but it also means they'd have lost something else in the draft.

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