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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
In case y'all were wondering who the worst superhero is, it's Manikin, the boy with the power to summon more and less evolved versions of himself

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
That just makes me realize how much better Black Widow's costume would be if her little wrist things were huge Monev the Gale style gauntlets

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
That Marvel guy was right that replacing all of their main characters with new people in a well-intentioned attempt to increase diversity was a mistake.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wheat Loaf posted:

If he hadn't left in 1991, could Claremont have continued on X-Men indefinitely, or would he have eventually decided to leave on his own terms? I've read about some of his plans for the X books going into the 1990s and I'm curious about how long he could have realistically stuck around.

some manga artists continue a series for decades, with weekly releases and doing the writing and the art.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Skwirl posted:

I bet there's a quantifiable effect on sales when you slap a "Hugo Award Nominee" or even better "Hugo Award Winner" sticker on a trade paperback.

Yeah, look at Chuck Tingle

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Edge & Christian posted:

Here are the previous winners of the prestigious Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story:
2009: Girl Genius volume 8
2010: Girl Genius volume 9
2011: Girl Genius volume 10
2012: Digger
2013: Saga Volume 1
2014: This specific xkcd strip
2015: Ms. Marvel Volume 1
2016: Sandman: Overture

Holy poo poo lol

Gaz-L posted:

Overture probably got it purely because if Gaiman's on the ballot, they just throw out the other votes. All 3 of them.

They do. Dan Harmon was nominated for a Hugo for an episode of Community. He went to the reception to sign in and when the receptionist saw what category he was nominated for she literally said "I'm sorry". Harmon asked why, and the receptionist said "Neil Gaiman is nominated for that too, and he always wins"

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
My personal hot take re Miracle Man is that Marvel completely hosed up the release so bad. They started off by releasing a Marvelman Classic collection, which no one wanted. The entire point is that Marvelman was a lovely, uninspired, generic, ripoff comic. The old Marvelman stuff is maybe of historical interest to MiracleMan fans, but the actual run of Miracleman contained a Marvelman reprint that I think satisfies all of that interest by itself. But if you aren't familiar with Miracleman, Marvelman is just a lovely old comic. Every comic shop near me was trying to sell those Marvelman Classic Tpbs for 3 dollars each until very recently, I think they all just eventually gave up and threw them away. Marvelman Classic was probably the most effective possible anti-advertisement for Miracleman

After that, Marvel actually starts releasing the Miracleman comics. But instead of just releasing them in nice trades, they released them as a monthly comic. Which by itself is a baffling choice, but worst off is that it was super expensive, like 5 dollars an issue. And they justified that extra expense by including a ton of extra content nobody actually wants. Here's Miracleman Issue 1, 20 pages of comics and then 20 more pages of editorials about how great Miracleman is and uncolored art of the comic you just read, five dollars please.

And then when they finally release it in trades, it's hardcover only and thirty goddamn dollars for four issues. It was the most absurd ripoff.

I am a huge Miracleman fan, Miracleman is probably my favorite Western comic, I was ecstatic when I heard Marvel was going to be reprinting it. I bought the first two issues and then gave up, because the releasing and pricing were ridiculous.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I read the first issue of that new Doom Patrol. It was really bad. Morrison's Doom Patrol was weird, but it was weird because it was overloaded with Morrison's crazy brain and magic. The new Doom Patrol was weird just for the sake of weird.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

joehonkie posted:

I would say a lot of Morrison's Doom Patrol was just weird for the sake of being weird, and I even liked most of it.

I think the distinction is that it's weirdness came from somewhere. The storyline about Albert Hoffman's bicycle was part of Morrison's psychedelic magic theories, Flex Mentallo was a representation of the simple, strange masculinity from golden age comics. The weirdness in Morrison's Doom Patrol came from genuinely weird ideas. And it was all pinned down by the central concept of a group of people whose superpowers were disabilities. Or vice versa.

But the new Doom Patrol was just, hey the Chief is playing a synthesizer in the forest and a singing telegram girl just shot somebody, is so crazy.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I think I got to the lovely part of Alpha Flight. Some rear end in a top hat named "James D Hudnall" took over as writer and two issues in to his run he he has Sasquatch just magically turn back in to a man. Not even a male form of his new body, it's just flat out his old body. loving sucks.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Marvel needs to take a mulligan on a lot of the stuff they've done recently. The next event should establish that Nightmare has been giving everyone nightmares for the past few years, so a lot of the Marvel characters have been kinda sleep deprived. Of course Beast wouldn't normally risk destroying time to make Cyclops feel bad or strand Noh Varr on a planet to die, he had been awake for days before he did that stuff. Iceman is bi, not gay, Iceman being full gay would be dumb, he was just super out of it when he said that stuff. Thor's Hammer isn't sentient, everybody had been up for 36 hours and heard a car radio and thought it was coming from the hammer.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Roth posted:

I know, I don't understand how being gay and not bi is somehow dumb?

For real humans, being gay and not bi is not dumb. It's dumb for Iceman. The dude had a whole story about dealing with prejudice against interracial dating when he was involved with a Japanese woman. Making him full gay kinda fucks with that, because hey, turns out his parents were right, if he had married that woman it would've been unfulfilling and wouldn't have worked out.
Iceman in the movies had that great coming out scene. To turn that into "oh yeah and also literally" is just bad writing
If Iceman was bi, you can still do a really good story about Iceman dealing with the fact that he was repressing a part of himself that his younger self doesn't have to because of the times they grew up in.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

CharlestheHammer posted:

But that is dumb as gently caress and loses a lot of the impact if you just make him bi.

Also lol that making him gay somehow justifies anti interracial dating. You are reaching hard

Just say you want him bi, don't try and rationalize it or make it the objectively correct choice.

Who gives a poo poo about impact? Hydra Cap had a lot of impact, that doesn't mean it was good.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
How old are Iceman and Kitty now? mid-30s for Iceman and mid-20s for Kitty?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I know that there's no point in thinking about it, but I do wonder sometimes, like, from Cyclops' point of view, how long ago was it that he was retired and living happily with his wife and child?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lightning Lord posted:

All fiction featuring characters and concepts not created by the original creator, that is done by someone who has even a cursory interest in them, is fanfiction. Just accept it.

He doesn't actually have to accept the inaccurate definition you just made up

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Kitty Pryde is a piece of property owned by the Disney Corporation. They get to define Kitty Pryde however they want.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lurdiak posted:

You should see some of the tangents the CD thread goes on sometimes.

"Zack Snyder: great director, or greatest director?"

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lurdiak posted:

No no, that's on-topic. This is what I mean:

Willem Defoe. How is there even an argument?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Batman/Judge Dredd

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Teenage Fansub posted:

Ha! Scott Lobdell has the task of turning Aspen Comics legit next week.


poo poo. Do I collect single issues or wait for trades?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Should I catch up on all the Executive Assistant stuff first?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dark Horse sucks, their new edition of Ghost in the Shell still has the sex scene edited out.

For gently caress's sake, Saga is a best seller and has graphic sex scenes, Sunstone is a best seller and is just porn, but Dark Horse doesn't think Americans can handle half a page of gay sex

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Teenage Fansub posted:

Because of two stupid pages you'd probably have to keep it bagged or behind counters in stores.
Other than not doing it digitally, I can't really blame them for not bothering with an adults only edition.

Those two pages are all that Sunstone is, and Sunstone isn't bagged or behind counters. Saga has tons of full frontal nudity and actual graphic penetrative sex, and Saga isn't bagged or behind counters

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's just another example of how hosed and terrible Dark Horse's manga department is. They've left Battle Angel Alita out of print for over a decade, and they keep licensing manga, realeasing a few volumes, and then just giving up. They did the first 14 volume of Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service and then just stopped, started rereleasing it in 3 in1 omnibuses, and then just stopped after the fourth one. They had abandoned Drifters and Blood Blockade Battlefront until they got anime series that drove up interest again. And they charge fifteen dollars per volume for Berserk.

Dark Horse is bad

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

CapnAndy posted:

In fairness, it should be, it's straight unapologetic bondage porn. Hell, Sex Criminals is at least bagged.

I know a lot of people don't like 50 Shades of Grey, but we all owe those books a debt of gratitude for making hardcore bondage porn mainstream

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
American Comics should adopt the Manga distribution system. Instead of every series getting its own monthly print release, there are monthly magazines each with 5-8 series in them.
Like, "Detective Comics" would be a monthly magazine, each issue would be 200 or more pages long, and contain new installments of Batman, Batwoman, Green Arrow, etc.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lurdiak posted:

Yeah, and they used to be printed on the shittiest possible paper and printed with really simple colors

Yeah, and they should go back to that.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Roth posted:

No thanks

The switch to high quality paper and expensive coloring is based on the idea that monthly comics are first and foremost collector's items. It's emblematic of everything wrong with the current distribution model of American comics.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Comics can't go back to the newstands because there's too many drat comics. Barnes and Noble isn't going to make room for 50 monthly DC titles and 50 monthly Marvel titles, plus however many independents.

This is another benefit of the Shonen Jump model. It's a lot easier to carry one magazine with 10 different comics in it than to carry 10 separate comics.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jedi posted:

There's far fewer bookstores today than there were 10 years ago. It's going away - it's not quite there yet, and for certain fields, print will be around for awhile. However, my nephews in grade school were given iPads this year and several of their classes don't have physical text books anymore. It's all on the tablet.

Be fair, the main loss of book stores was Borders closing, and that was because of incompetent management and not because of loss of book sales

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jedi posted:

Off the top of my head, Waldenbooks, B. Dalton, and Borders no longer exist, and neither do quite a few local mom and pop book stores. To pretend that all of them had incompetent management is disingenuous at best. Amazon was a huge contributor to that - and they sell a Kindle. To pretend that digital sales have no impact also isn't fair. The medium is changing. Just like you'll have difficulty finding a local typewriter repairman - there will come a time that physical books are considered a quaint affectation.

People have been saying that for literally decades now, but it doesn't seem to be true?

Unit sales of print books rose 3.3% in 2016 over the previous year, making it the third-straight year of print growth

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Real jobs are as follows
    doctor
    hedge fund manager
    senator
    actor in a movie produced by Disney

Everyone else is going to be replaced by a robot, the internet, or an orphan in another country who will be paid 27 cents a day to do twice as much work as you. And that CGI Tarkin was a pretty loving clear shot across the bow to Disney actors. Chris Pratt better have a plan B lined up

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jedi posted:

From the second paragraph of the article you quoted: "Mass market has been on the wane since the introduction of e-books, and its slide continued in 2016 with a 7.7% drop in unit sales. Physical audio, where sales were down 13.5% on the year, also took a big hit from digital." If you check the chart at the bottom, mass market is down 25% since 2013 - digital is hurting them. I read exceptionally quickly and before I had my Kindle, I was buying 3 paperbacks a week to keep me busy on the commute. Now? I can't remember the last physical book I bought. It's like pay phones and typewriters and lots of other stuff we had when I was a kid. Yeah, they're still around, but they're not nearly as common as they once were. It's a slow burn for certain - but pretending it's not affecting the industry is short sighted.

Um, dude, did you only read that part of the paragraph?

"Most print formats had an outstanding year, with hardcover up 5.4%, trade paperback up 4%, and board books up 7.4%. Mass market has been on the wane since the introduction of e-books, and its slide continued in 2016 with a 7.7% drop in unit sales. Physical audio, where sales were down 13.5% on the year, also took a big hit from digital."

One particular format, mass market paperbacks were down. But the increase in hardcover and larger format paperbacks and children's books was more than the drop in mmpb, so overall print book sales were up.

And audio books were down too but no poo poo, listening off a CD doesn't give you any different experience than listening to an MP3.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Schneider Heim posted:

Who is Aaron Diaz and why should we care?

A dude who really badly wants to gently caress a robot

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I read the first volume of Kill Six Billion Demons. I know it's pretty popular with people 'round here, so I'm wondering, does it get better? The first volume was just a ton of world building and exposition, all dumped on top of me at once. Most of it really unnecessary, and totally unconnected from the only character, who just got dragged around and then spat back out into the real world

Also, put some loving space at the edge of the pages, you rear end in a top hat. Art and even word bubbles sometimes got lost because it went right down to the binding.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Alaois posted:

what if i told you it was from Japan

I don't see how that would change anything

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rhyno posted:

I got engaged today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuFVQk_CCs

Roth posted:

What is this guy's comic even about? I admittedly kind of like the art style, but I really can't get into reading webcomics at all.

The robot waifu the writer wants to gently caress

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Endless Mike posted:

He looks like he put on a lot of weight.

and his color is a lot better, last picture I saw of him his skin almost looked translucent.

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I read the first volume of Snotgirl, and really liked it. It's kinda like that manga No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!, in that the main character is genuinely kind of a lovely person and a gently caress up, and most of her problems are of her own creation, but you still end up rooting for her at least a little. And the mystery is really interesting too.

I was pretty meh on Scott Pilgrim, so I'm surprised at how much I like Snotgirl

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