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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah, it's not an "I win" button for one side in an argument, but rather it exists so that no arbitrary "I win" button can be used by either side. The best evidenced argument wins.

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Sharkopath posted:

thinking about every other artist i know in different media and how bad they would thrash a dweeb who tells them their intent doesn't matter

I mean, this doesn't necessarily prove anything other than you know some angry people.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

The_Doctor posted:

I'm only a few eps into Solar Opposites and find the wall sections very depressing.

Yeah, I think some of the conclusions it comes to are pretty lame tbh.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Milo and POTUS posted:

Vindicators had top notch vas at least.

It makes Gillian Jacob's performance in Invincible so much more confusing. Because she can give genuinely great vocal performances, but for whatever reason she's (being directed? to be) flatter in the Amazon show than she was in R&M.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

PostNouveau posted:

Or Kyle, whoever that was ...

I can't tell if that was them setting up the canonical continuity joke, or an actual example of the show setting up some canon continuity.

The Doctor Wong reference surprised me too. (She's an alien, right? Based off the gag from last year's finale?)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

Wong is not an alien, holy poo poo, goons are so bad at watching TV and getting jokes lmao

Speaking as the goon who brought it up, yes, I fully got the reading that Rick's being a dismissive jerk and that he thinks therapists are a lesser form of life. However, I think it's also fun to look at the line from a different angle, as an idea that's fun to kick around. (Particularly given the controversy around the character's casting.)

It's a reading, and a fun one. That's all.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Mantis42 posted:

Jerry was the only one asking the real questions. He knew there was something wrong with the Hunt Me Guy.

It's such a good good stupid gag.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
The 90's were a good time for comics. Image had a good run but it feels like they're a bit spent right now. I'm not following anything these days, except I'm keeping an eye on Die.

Superheroes are pretty eugh played out for me.

This show was pretty good though. Very much a classic Rick and Morty and it made me laugh a lot, particularly the reveal with the Shoot Me Shoot Me guy.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
The bit where she went after the miners, was a bit, eugh, really?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Dr_Amazing posted:

The bit with everyone but Beth understanding why giant sperm would flock to the grand canyon

Jerry's frown in that scene made me wonder if he didn't know either, but he's learnt to shut up when he doesn't know something (because everyone is toxic and sucks).

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

im on the net me boys posted:

do straight people have any good porno

no, it's all straight

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

I’m having a really hard time believing that the average porn user in 2021 isn’t fully tuned into their specific kinks or tastes.

I suspect you're imaging them being too much like you, as opposed to being a young adult who isn't set in their ways (or, you know, particularly experienced). That, and people get bored and kinks change.

I feel really patronising saying this to you, and I hope it doesn't come across that way.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

TBH, the thought of “young masterbaters who are new to pornography” isn’t something I’ve thankfully ever thought about before! I sure wish that was still the case, lol!!!

If it makes you feel any better, I didn't want to think about 70's bush, but there you go.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

galagazombie posted:

The real episode 4 was really bad. But I’m hesitant to believe the voltron episode is bad since this thread hates slut dragons and that episode was hilarious. So we’ll see once it airs.

Voltron episode owns.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
This is the first season whose writing was impacted by corona, yeah? Not just visual production.

tarlibone posted:

Now, this Voltron one people seem to be talking about? ... I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen a funny take on Voltron since "Ventronic" took on The Monarch's cocoon in "The Lepidopterists."

The Voltron one was funny as gently caress.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

tarlibone posted:

The Hipsters of Genital Grooming... that's a good band name!

That's a terrible band name! It has the words "genitals" and "grooming" in it!

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Im sensing that most of you haven't had much experience with school since you were in school, yeah?

Man, it was only a couple of years ago when I was fishing favourite books out of storm drains and giving kids time out because they think calling someone a lesbian is a cool way to hurt someone's feelings.

Bullying happens, it's rampant, and kids learn a lot of strategies to hide behaviour from adults. Bullying isn't cool, per se, but the popular kids absolutely use their power to hurt others for fun. Others lash out, or begin campaigns of harassment. Others are just isolated and stigmatised, often for factors beyond that child's control -- like poor hygiene, maladjusted social skills, or being poor, ugly or otherwise unusual.

It doesn't look like 80's bullying, but it's still basically the same thing. It's just the tools and social mores that have changed.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Eifert Posting posted:

I didn't really experience cliques in high school despite being super lame. The secret is going to a same sex high school. Steer don't fight.

I'm gonna guess you're not queer.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Eifert Posting posted:

I'm not but they were more than a few people in my circle who were. I was in high school from 2001 to 2005, so even more so than now there were definitely problems for folks, but I'm very confident they would tell you generally that it was better at that high school than it was in junior high or just out in the world.


For me at least Junior high was the hellscape. If you ask me to decide between a bullet and reliving 7th grade it wouldn't be an easy choice.

Oh poo poo, I forget you guys have two "highschool" tiers. We just have the one, a full six year experience, usually with most of the same cohort -- which means that things can (and do) go very sour.

And yeah, what you say makes a lot of sense. Thanks. :)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

HebrewMagic posted:

Oh Christ right this week was the goddamn deep as a toilet bowl anime parody characters I had forgotten that

As opposed to the well developed turkey marines?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
You seemed to be talking about the characterisation?

But yes, this season has been easily the worst season, often actively boring on top of being not funny.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Cojawfee posted:

Wow bro, you're just being toxic

Sorry, I, what? No I'm not. I mean I don't think I am.

I genuinely don't understand, like, is there something im doing wrong here or just some sort of communication mishap on my part or is this like sarcasm? Like I just, like I

I don't know how to respond to this. I'm really sorry, I really didn't mean to make anyone feel bad. I'm so sorry.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Sorry that reads like sarcasm I really didn't mean to upset anyone. I'm really sorry.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

To me, that site reads as controversy bait.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Takes No Damage posted:

Sounds like last week's ep. Did you not watch it or is your broadcast somehow screwed up? Or do you mean the actual anime short that got posted on the [AS] Youtube channel? Which BTW was a way better Evengalion parody than the TV episode we got.

I don't think the Voltron episode was targeting Eva, despite the title.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

Upon rewatching the episode, Rick and Bird Person ascending in perfect physical harmony to defeat the galactic federation in a perfectly balanced display of their mastery of life & death is approaching Jesse Moynihan levels of visual metaphor for… something

...really? I don't see it man.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Show loves continuity episodes, they do two every season -- one Evil Morty/Citadel arc episode, and one Birdperson/Galactic Federation episode. The second Beth stuff seems to be another recurring element they've added to the roster as well; she's made at least one appearance a season since her introduction.

Rick doesn't like "canon" (which is different from continuity) because he relates his life through serialised drama metaphors and he hates being reminded of (and therefore pinned down to) his past. The episode (and the season) spelled this out pretty clearly, I thought.

And we're so clearly not done with continuity LMAO. The episode raised a bunch of new questions.

Whatever. I loved a lot of this episode, but I thought it was fundamentally flawed in ways that I found deeply frustrating. The idea that Eyepatch Morty would provide some sort of escape line from the Citadel, a secret test of character for the Ricks, feels a bit dumb and out of character, and I don't believe that our Rick would save all those slave Mortys. And, on the more important, metaphorical level, I get what the episode was getting at but I reject it. I think reaching out and finding the human connection has limits, and those limits are on this side of the genocidal child endangerer line.

Also LOL at the "Why wouldn't you just kill the big bad now, instead of 100 episodes in" gag during the anime parody. (Though, again, that was answered in the episode itself.)

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

FireWorksWell posted:

Yeah it only really makes sense if you decide they put a limit on how many universes they kept inside of the curve.

I mean, they said "finite" in the name.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

I mean… you danced tho

And you were toxic, minutes after complaining about how unfomcomfortable Thomas Middleditch's voice makes you feel.

Maybe think about the disparity there.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

ghostwritingduck posted:

Attributing the opinions of fictional characters to their authors is crazy to me without some evidence to back it up.

Particularly in an episode that was so heavily critical of the central character.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Roiland’s recent non-Harmon projects (Trover Saves the Universe and Solar Opposites) have been really good. I’m not sure how much he writes for Solar Opposites because he only has one writing credit but it’s got a bunch of his writing quirks all over, but I think working on R+M has tempered a lot of his old approach.

I'm interested in seeing what this second run of stories from (i.e. the third season of) Solar Opposites is like, given that it'll have been written during the pandemic.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I thought Vindicators 2 was pretty good. I liked the stylistic choice to go with a handful of wordless episodes / sequences, and the episodes were pithy. The whole euthanasia conversation was excellent, probably my favourite bit of Rick and Morty sociopathic nonsense in a season or so. And the dialogue in the Noob Noob episode had a pleasant dream logic to it.

Not all the sequences worked overly, episode 2 felt like it just randomly trailed off and the entire thing suffers from some classic prequel issues IMO. But it mostly worked for me, and I'm always happy to have Gilliam Jacobs / Lance Reddick turn up in things.

Also Season 5 has some pretty lovely episodes, but Raising Gazorpazorp has to be down there too.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Surprisingly yes! Hulu has picked it up for a 20 episode run a full ten years after it was cancelled. Initially John DiMaggio wasn't going to come back because he was holding out to get a pay raise for him and the rest of the cast (and he was right to do so, voice actors are so under paid), but a deal was struck and he's onboard now.

Just for clarification, what specifically happened was that DiMaggio folded and accepted the initial offer Disney made. No one got what they deserved.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

alf_pogs posted:

Heist episode squandered Pamela Adlon as a voice guest and instead gives the spotlight to Elon Musk. criminal behaviour from an animated show

This but also Claudia Black.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Isn't Harmon still making that NFT show for Fox, though?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I'm interested by the implication that they're going somewhere with the ending.

But I'm equally entertained by yelling "WALKIE TALKIE DIE HARD MOTHERFUCKER."

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I laughed very hard at the implication that every culture comes up with their own term for a "Die Hard", but they apparently all share the Nakatomi Plaza as a common cultural touchstone.

Tbh I didn't get any religious stuff from the Summer plot. It's funnier if this is a weird, observable phenomena, or just someone's wild sociological thesis -- and if the episode was actually doing "religion" as a theme there, they'd definitely have said something specific, which I don't think they did?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I'm never gonna remember any of the loving stupid names this show has, other than The Vat Of Acid Episode. Kinda hope every episode in the show's final season is just titled "Rick And Morty". Not, "Rick any Morty 1" or "Rick and Morty 2", etc. Just "Rick and Morty".

If we're talking worst episodes of the show, then the two that stick out in my mind for being the most ugly are the sex planet one and the Beth and Jerry spa day one. Whatever they're called.

Vindicators was pretty good IMO. The pay off with the train is gold.

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah actually I'd agree. I'd put it in my Top Ten.

It's not as good as the battery episode, or the Tales from the Citadel episode, or Pickle Rick IMO. But I certainly think about it more than a lot of the other ones.

I've really come to like the show actually, after being super ambivalent on the first two seasons. I'm glad I stuck with the show.

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