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Who else was a little bit curious about the Doctor saying Bill was his granddaughter? Because it doesn't seem impossible that she is. It hasn't been mentioned since, but in the first episode, when Bill was looking at pictures of her mother, wasn't there one with her mother and The Doctor?
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May 8, 2017 02:20
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jivjov posted:Uhh...you know he was just continuing the cover story Bill ad-libbed, right? Jerusalem posted:Bill mentions that she has no pictures of her mother, then goes home where suddenly a box of photos of her mother have been discovered and one of them has a reflection of the Doctor. The idea is pretty clearly supposed to be that he jumped in the TARDIS, went back and befriended Bill's mom and took a bunch of photos of her so he could gift them to Bill as a Christmas Present. Just kind of thinking aloud here, I mean, the biggest objection isn't that its improbable or that the foreshadowing is too obvious, its that "this character that we've just met is actually a Time Lord" has been used...at least twice so far? I think that Bill is actually Susan about as much as I think that Captain Jack is really the Face of Boe.
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May 8, 2017 03:24
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Am I the only one who was confused by the ending and thought something was going on other than what was said? The Doctor, Bill and Nardol are all hugging. Then we cut, and they are back on the TARDIS. The Doctor isn't clear when and how that happened. He also is talking about why he didn't tell Bill, and he said he never told the enemy his plan. (Being blind wouldn't mean the Doctor would forget walking to and entering the TARDIS) Okay, I know this doesn't quite make sense, but what if Nardol isn't Nardol and the Doctor is faking his injury? I get the feeling there was more going on there than just that.
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May 14, 2017 06:05
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I think that this series is, in a lot of ways, the objectively best season of Doctor Who for a while, with no major missteps, and solid episodes throughout. The only problem for me is, a lot of the episodes feel a little rushed...we are barely introduced to the mystery before it is resolved. Sadly, this series doesn't have as big of an impact on me because I have seen a lot of this before and I have kind of moved on. When I saw Doctor Who in 2011, I remember my friend introducing me to it, and watching five episodes in a row and just being fascinated and excited by every episode. I am sure that someone, somewhere, is discovering the show with this series, and for them its amazing, but it just can't be that way for me.
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May 14, 2017 06:11
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Nardole also seems to have his personality upgraded, in the specials he was in, he seemed to be a comic relief character, and now he seems to have this serious mission to get the Doctor to behave. Maybe Nardole and The Doctor have switched places? Maybe The Master and Nardole have switched places? 
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May 14, 2017 18:15
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While watching this, I thought that in atmosphere and execution, this was one of the most engrossing Doctor Who stories since Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone. Yes, I know that this plot has been used before, I know that there are holes in the plot, but while watching it, I totally believed it and really felt like I was as scared and confused as the characters. I don't know what makes an episode immersive like that, but this one did it for me.
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May 21, 2017 07:05
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Cleretic posted:So something has occurred to me.We're 6/13 episodes in, with the next episode following on directly from this one, with the same enemies. Of Modern Who or Classic Who? Classic Who wasn't really as big on recurring enemies as people remember it to be. I think Modern Who was based more on an image of Doctor Who than of what was really going on in those episodes. For example, the 3rd Doctor and the 4th Doctor, together, over ten years, only fought the Daleks 5 times.
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May 23, 2017 17:46
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I just remembered that Castrolvalva was basically a story about simulations deciding that they are real, too.
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May 25, 2017 04:50
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Compared to other things on Doctor Who, I didn't find the idea of a series of coincidences leading to released contamination unrealistic. The idea that a bacteria could kill everything on earth was a stretch, but mechanical or human error leading to a widespread catastrophe is not that odd of an idea. A highly lethal virus escaping from a research lab seems a likely enough idea. Here is a list of times when the world came close to nuclear war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls#1950s There have been a number of times when technical and human error almost led to nuclear war. The scenario in the episode seems likely enough for a science fiction story.
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May 30, 2017 02:39
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Burkion posted:It grates on me because I don't want the Doctor to be this big important hot shot who the whole universe knows and fears. Like a lot that Moffat does, the Doctor being bragadocious is one of those things that is frosting. Its fun, its a nice treat, its special the first time you have it...and then it becomes really old as a primary diet. The Doctor's "largest library in the universe, look me up" line? "Even monsters have nightmares"? Those were kind of zingy lines. The speech at Stonehenge was also pretty good. But that was...five years ago? The entire reason it was appealing is that the Doctor usually acts so quiet. If his normal character is "Mr. Tough Stuff", it defeats the purpose.
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May 31, 2017 23:21
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n4 posted:I don't really understand why Missy is becoming good/having regrets about being evil/etc. I'd assume it's an act but the Doctor seems to take it seriously. Did I miss something that led to her change of heart? It kinda just seems like she said she would be to bargain with the Doctor and for some reason she's sincerely having a change of heart but that doesn't make any sense. I might be remembering my Classic Who wrong, but The Master being completely evil and insane is mostly only the John Simm Master. The Master that fought with the Third Doctor was more of a swashbuckling prankster, not a total sociopath. So the idea that The Master could be capable of some type of remorse is not totally out of character.
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Jun 4, 2017 07:06
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Astroman posted:Well they were progressive enough to have a black soldier, so they weren't all bad! A couple of years ago, I was reading an article about some high school students in Montana who were painting a mural of early cowboys, and about three out of the ten cowboys were black. And I was thinking "okay, inclusiveness is nice, but this is rural Montana, so this is going a bit far". Then I saw that it was based on a photograph, and that the people in the photograph were indeed racially diverse. So sometimes it is stretched a little bit for dramatic effect, but in general, lots of times in the past were more racially diverse than they are portrayed. Or the original portrayals were forgotten by histories. In the original stories, there are black people sailing with Odyssey and Muslims in King Arthur's court. A little bit of diversity might be a stretch, but it isn't enough to make me suspend my disbelief. I actually had more problems with trying to reconcile the lack of discipline and good military tactics amongst the soldiers than I did with the presence of a single black soldier.
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Jun 11, 2017 07:27
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I'm liking these stories being kind of quiet and understated. Notice how little the Doctor did in this episode: no big speeches, no timey-wimey balls, no zaniness. He basically tried to talk sense into people and failed. He was mostly just along for the ride. I know it probably goes against what the BBC is trying to do in terms of demographic appeal, but I wouldn't mind going back to really slow-paced Classic episodes. This story makes me wish it was a Pertwee six part serial. I yearn for that type of boredom.
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Jun 11, 2017 07:36
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Well, if there is any plot hole: The Colonel was hung, unsuccessfully, for desertion, right? How did he get back in charge of a regiment? Even if he survived the hanging, and (as I understand it) they considered that the end of the death penalty, how did he get another regiment? Wouldn't he have been discharged from the army? So they took him down from the rope and was like "well, you survived, how would you like to command a regiment?" Like, the black soldier might have been a little ahistorical, but it seems like something that could have happened, but I don't see the line between the guy getting hanged and then getting another command.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:22
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CityMidnightJunky posted:42 is astonishing in that I have definitely watched it, possibly more than once, but it is so aggressively unmemorable that it has completely dropped out of my head, to the point where if I do a series watch through, I'll constantly be surprised it exists and then forget it again immediately afterwards. The whole episode has a perception filter on it. 42 is interesting because it is done in "real time", that is what I remember about it, also Martha texts her mother to ask about The Beatles versus Elvis. And the Doctor is mad that people don't do recreational math anymore.
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Jun 13, 2017 05:24
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That episode had nothing spectacular about it, but was a solid episode. No attempts to change the status quo, no meta elements and no faking out the audience. No extraneous pop culture tie-ins or trying to be hip, either. It was a nice corridor crawl/monster of the week episode, with just enough nice dialog and trickery by the Doctor, and a few thought-provoking comments about society, but nothing shoved down our throat. Even the stuff at the end with Missy didn't overshadow the episode. I could go for three years of episodes like this one.
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Jun 18, 2017 06:02
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Namtab posted:I hate this What do you hate about it? The meta elements or the campiness?
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Jun 18, 2017 21:35
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Wow. I hope this doesn't sound too uncritically fannish, but that episode had everything. Its on my list of favorite episodes, ever.
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Jun 25, 2017 04:02
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MisterBibs posted:
Its my favorite season of the revival, I think. Its "mediocre" in the best possible way, like it isn't full of mind bending twists or stellar conceptual episode, but every episode makes sense and is well-executed.
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Jun 25, 2017 04:26
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Something no one has mentioned yet: The Doctor's haircut in the cold open is noticeably longer than in the episode. How much time separates the two?
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Jun 25, 2017 06:03
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Kind of obvious guess that I haven't heard mentioned yet: The next episode is called "The Doctor Falls". They are on a 400 mile long spaceship, what if the next episode is him falling through the spaceship?
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Jun 26, 2017 01:19
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What do you think Missy's arc is going to be like? I don't think it is going to be straight redemption, or only her being totally evil. I think it might settle into her being kind of an amoral trickster, or kind of a sinister but not evil mastermind. Really kind of returning it to the status quo of the Master's first season.
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Jun 27, 2017 02:03
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Plavski posted:I really hope Big Finish get the license to do Twelfth Doctor stories. I will happily listen to Capaldi's voice until the end of time itself. Audio recording and voice acting have to be a pretty sweet deal for actors in general. I don't know if they literally get to shoot in their pyjamas, but they don't have to go on location, or spend hours in makeup and wardrobe, wait for lighting and sets, etc. I mean, I am sure the pay and exposure are a lot lower, but it seems like it would be a bit more creative and low-pressure.
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Jun 30, 2017 15:57
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I imagine that any ship that was close enough to have that amount of time dilation across decks would be torn apart by tidal forces in under a second, but: 1. The ship has a Structural Inertia Field that holds it together against acceleration 2. The blackhole is made of quark matter and is emitting non-polarized gravitinos 3. Doctor Who isn't a hard science fiction show I think that they did a good job at taking a basic scientific concept and turning it into a story idea, even if the math and engineering didn't quite work out. The black hole scenario in the movie Interstellar had a Kip Thorne, a physicist from CalTech go over it and decide it actually could work, but even then they had to use a lot of spherical cows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_(film)#Wormholes_and_black_holes
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Jul 1, 2017 16:53
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Cojawfee posted:It will probably just be Missy sitting up and saying "I remember a long time ago, I shot a strange woman, so I took precautions" or something like that. Though I don't know how she would have remembered being shoved up against a wall and being told pick a new dematerializer whatsit when The Master shouldn't have remembered anything due to the timelines being out of sync. Yeah, even without directly remembering it, the Master/Mistress is a little too smart to turn her back on herself. The Master has come back from being turned into ashes, I don't think that a little blast that leaves a pretty corpse is going to prevent a regeneration or from them just hopping up and walking away.
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Jul 2, 2017 01:34
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Halfway through the episode, the Doctor stumbles and a little bit of regeneration energy glows in his hand. So the Doctor had an injury bad enough to make him start regenerating, even before the final blow? What was going on? How far back in this season was he regenerating? Is this important?
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Jul 2, 2017 01:36
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Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah, and after that is when he started quoting previous incarnations and pulling out the old jelly babies. I actually didn't make the connection yet...its kind of hard to tell, because all the Doctors will occasionally mention things they liked in their past regenerations. Is there a list of all the past regenerations quoted or referenced?
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Jul 2, 2017 02:24
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LividLiquid posted:This is super great. Moffat already said the Bill/Heather thing was a coincidence, but... was it?
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Jul 3, 2017 05:09
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Right before Missy leaves with the Master, her and the Doctor hold hands and look at each other. I took it that something was being passed hand to hand, possibly the dematerialization circuit, but it didn't come up again? I kind of suspect that they were passing "regeneration energy" to another, or something similar. It certainly looked like something.
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Jul 3, 2017 05:11
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