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I'm minding Sota a lot less now that they've made what his relation to Altair's creator is. When characters can help resolve things by just loving talking it's extremely annoying when they don't - at least give a reason for it! And now they have, but it came a bit late. It's a pretty ok show overall, but boy is it bad at managing audience engagement.
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Kanos posted:To be honest, it was entirely pointless anyway. Alice was already directly opposed to the protagonist group to the point of violent confrontation to begin with, with no real interest in listening to what they had to say. I have no idea why they devoted an entire scene to Magane manipulating Alice into doing something she was already doing quite willingly. It wasn't an Alice scene, it was a Magane scene. Even if not much changed information-wise, Magane's role has been pretty clearly elevated to that of the major antagonist right about now. It also establishes her as irrationally subject to her personality traits: she knows Altair's deal, and Altair's end goals, but her desire to gently caress with everyone around her is stronger than any thoughts of trying to stop her, self-preservation be damned. It's still moving very slowly, but the scene was not pointless.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:17
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I dunno, I could've seen Magane starting to plot against Altair to avoid dying and/or losing the fun new world she's in, but instead she chose to gently caress with Alice and Sota for kicks.
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Jun 5, 2017 18:50
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Clarste posted:The impression I got from her dialog was that it wasn't specifically due to her powers, just that when the apocalypse she's trying to cause occurs, she'll be the first one to go because she's the weakest link in reality at the moment. So her plan is to hold off on causing any more reality distortions until she can make a huge push all at once. Like how when a faultline builds up a lot of tension, the next earthquake is a lot larger. I don't think it works like that, I think the idea is that if she makes a push that's way too hard all at once instead of letting it all build up she'll be ejected. Like a virus that gives you a very bad fever for a few days but your immune system eventually overcomes it, versus a chronic disease that is not as bad in the short term but which eventually kills you.
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Jun 11, 2017 09:31
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Well, Meteora is a supporting character in her game. But yeah anime characters acting rashly and stupidly is about as real as it gets.
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Jun 13, 2017 01:38
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As long as they can write semi-decent character interactions, more characters will be good. I was afraid that, thinking it was going to be a single-season series, characters would've been left underdeveloped (the only one to have a character arc so far is Mamika, and there's a couple that have barely had any screentime like mercenary man). So there being more episodes could turn out to be for the better. I don't necessarily have the confidence they'll be able to pull it off, but they have a chance to at least try.
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Jun 15, 2017 11:32
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Mamika's story was short-lived but I wouldn't say was badly executed. She had a pretty clear trajectory through which her naïvete leads to a tragic downfall. It doesn't break new ground, but it's written pretty well for what it is, which is more than can be said for the rest of the show.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:38
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Altair noticed him pretty clearly in the first few episodes, so she knows. But yeah I think in terms of portraying the "real life" characters as real people with real people issues the show does pretty drat well. Each scene probably had a bit too much screentime, but the writing was, in my opinion, a-ok. Definitely not something to hold against the show, unlike say Meteora pulling cosmology from thin air and everyone just nodding.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:13
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So basically Altair is memes.
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Jun 29, 2017 11:27
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The episode being a recap scared me a little at first but then they actually made something amusing out of it. That was a nice, pleasant surprise.
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Jul 2, 2017 11:30
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Mordja posted:Cool, too bad it's not plot, character, or comedy-oriented either, it just shows flashes of those things. It is definitely character oriented. The intent is very clearly to show how these different people interact with each other, and how they grow as individuals when they're out of the narrative confines of their series, or in the case of the creators, how they cope with management, deadlines, etc. Then Meteora pops out of the water and the show becomes an infodump again. I swear the episode was very close to perfect slice of life up until that point. She's nowhere near as good a character as the show's writer thinks she is.
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Jul 30, 2017 14:50
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Meteora is funny when she's being an egomaniac because it clashes hard with the rest of her character and her manner of speaking. That works fine. The problem is that aside from those one-off moments every now and again she's terrible.
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Jul 30, 2017 15:46
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Kwyndig posted:The problem is she's not the porno version. Instead she's the bland blushing sex scenes removed version. If that's actually the case then the writers of this show know nothing about how public perception works.
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Aug 2, 2017 13:35
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Desuwa posted:Has anything about this show made you think they do understand public perception of media? So far, my impression was that they understand it too well, to the point where they're blinded to the fact that trying to market an anime does not on its own make a compelling story. That they've been in a bubble, in other words. Paracelsus posted:Don't all-ages versions usually massively outsell the original porno versions? Even if so, it's not like the porno version is going to be forgotten. People will pirate it or look at screenshots or whatever, and then fanart in turn is going to reference it. Much in the same way that Altair is a meme queen because her character design got popular and used in indie animation projects and that had a ripple effect on her.
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Aug 2, 2017 19:42
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The last two episodes were good. I liked the part where the VN girl took down Charon's mech with one kick and everyone was like "what the hell".
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Aug 28, 2017 11:23
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The entire last episode was completely predictable and unnecessary. The moment Setsuna and the train station showed up at the end of episode 20 you knew exactly what would happen. If they had done something more interesting or original with this then sure, but as things stand, you could just cut straight from the end of episode 20 to whatever kind of epilogue 22 is going to be and lose nothing. Hell, I'd be fine with it if it at least tried some symbolism by having Setsuna and Altair get on the train and ride off with it into non-existence.chiasaur11 posted:Which means when the show doesn't go that way, and gives her a happy ending and everything she wants... well, who knows what the finale'll do, but right now it seems like a bit of a disconnect between intentions and likely audience reactions. Maybe they had some brilliant plan in mind. Given the rest of the show, I have my doubts. If there's something I took from the elimination chamber episodes it's that the writers don't know how audience expectations work. The fighting was great and I think those were some of the more enjoyable episodes for me. But if I was one of the anime nerds on the crowd and what I thought to be the conclusion of a series of spin-offs started going meta, with the main villain directly referencing me and my expectations I wouldn't be "acceptive" towards it, I'd be increasingly more confused as time went on. The idea of a cheering crowd by the end is stupid to me, all these people should be looking like they're trying to figure out what the hell they just watched.
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Sep 10, 2017 16:26
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If they did that I'd be cool with it. Yes, there are several points where things could have gone differently. Altair could've attacked Setsuna, Setsuna could've joined Altair's side, Blitz could've shot Altair while she was dealing with her meeting Setsuna, there's tons of things that could've plausibly happened. But imagine the latest episode was not shown, and instead we cut straight through to a happy epilogue. You could easily assume from the tone of how the last episode went that Altair and Setsuna talked and reached an understanding and rode off into the sunset. You don't need this episode.
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I think Shota was a good character, but in the wrong show. He was a fairly realistic depiction of someone with real mental issues, who manages to deal and cope with them. The problem lies in the fact that this is a shounen series, so tolerance for that kind of slow social thing with no action isn't going to be very high, and Meteora alone makes sure that that tolerance has been drained before we even get to Shota's plot. Hell, I'd say that if Meteora wasn't there, and Shota was in a higher-paced shonen series, Shota's stuff would've been fine. I'll even go a step further and say that if you replaced Meteora's pointless expo-dumps with other characters having slice of life moments in that time, Shota would've been fine. Basically the show's worst failings make even the stuff it does well feel like they're bad.
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