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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

ElwoodCuse posted:

Did Fleury like, pick old teammates at random to put on there or what. Can't figure out anything else they have in common

Most or all of those players are retired or out of the league. I think that was done to avoid the Niskanen situation we see here.

They're also mostly underappreciated journeymen types or were older guys when they were teammates. I figure it's a 'props to the lesser lights' thing.

ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 16:45 on May 4, 2017

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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

http://ingoalmag.com/masks/marc-andre-fleury-honors-favorite-teammates-new-mask/

quote:

The two have worked together on a number of mask designs for the Penguins netminder, but this one was a little different. Fleury wanted it to be a tribute – not to Penguins of years past, but to the teammates he’s loved to skate out with.

From Sidney Crosby to backup goaltender Jeff Zatkoff, long-time defensemen Brooks Orpik and Sergei Gonchar to fourth-line specialist (and fellow team pranskter) Joe Vitale, the mask is a touching nod to the players that have impacted Fleury over his many years with the club. There’s Mark Recchi, Ruslan Fedotenko, Brandon Sutter, and Matt Cooke. There’s even Fleury’s old goalie coach, Gilles Meloche.

Gross

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

VJeff posted:

I'm looking forward to the Caps losing to the Pens in 6 games in the second round every year for the next five years.

Psych! I'm not looking forward to that at all! Hahaha! Got you, idiot!

Haha as if the Caps will be in the playoffs in five years' time. Good one.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

I think we can all agree that the challenge is stupid and has led to far more idiotic "the refs are out to get us this look at this 1/60 of a second freeze frame that vaguely shows that maybe they got it wrong" than normal and we can all do without that. It was a nice idea that has led fans to expect far more from refs than can reasonably be expected from human beings.

At this point I'm yearning wistfully for the days of "that hit was legal/no it deserves a police investigation" arguments because I don't know how many more onside/offside interference/not interference circular arguments I have the stomach for.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

HookShot posted:

I hope the Oilers lose because of Zach Kassian's reverse beard facial hair look that no human should have ever done to their face.

I hope the Oilers lose because I can't stomach a decade of their fans chanting "we won the cup!" during every goddamn game they play against a Canadian opponent.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

iospace posted:

Baseball and, to a somewhat lesser extent, hockey definitely lack the big personalities you get in football and basketball in the US.

Though a lot of people (you can probably guess who) really, really hate it in football.

As much as there's a dearth of real personalities in the NHL, part of me enjoys watching a sport where so far no players have publicly expressed their belief that the world is flat.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jamwad Hilder posted:

The Penguins blowing a 3-1 lead to the best team in the league would not be a choke.

'Choke' is a pretty empty term, but losing three straight elimination games is pretty uninspiring regardless of the opposition.

With that said, I don't get why people are acting like it's already over. 72 hours ago the Caps were a bunch of losers who'll never win a thing. The series is far from over.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

all-Rush mixtape posted:

Penguins/Capitals Game 5 got the best US ratings for a non-Stanley Cup Final game possibly ever

To put that in perspective, it did slightly better than the non-clinching NBA pre-game show it was up against.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

The '02 Wings were their best cup team I don't know what the gently caress he's on about. poo poo, '07 was probably a better team than either of the '90s squads.

The 95-96 Red Wings had 131 points in a time before the shootout. That's one off the record set by the 76-77 Canadiens.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

And they got swept out of the finals.

They lost to the Avs in six in the conference finals. They'd then win the next the cup the next two seasons. I'm not seeing how that team was somehow worse than the 2002 squad that had 116pts and beat the all world Hurricanes in the finals. Admittedly the conference finals were really the cup finals that year, but they just scraped by the Avs in 7.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

El Gallinero Gros posted:

They also narrowly avoided getting eliminated by St.Louis and needed 6 games to dust off 8th seed WInnpeg, and they didn't even make the cup finals.

Those hotshot 2002 Red Wings went down 2-0 to the Canucks in the first round before waking up. I'm not saying they weren't a good team because of course they were phenomenal, just that it's hardly cut and dry that the 2002 team was the best rendition of that franchise.

With that said, it must be nice to have that debate about your team. :smith:

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I don't know how I always forget how stacked the late 90s/early 2000s Redwings and Avalanche teams were.

For Colorado you have Sakic, Forsberg, Hejduk, Tanguay, Drury, Bourque, Deadmarsh, Foote, with Roy in net. Then you take a look at Detroit and it's Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Federov, Hull, Robitaille, Larionov, Chelios, Datsyuk, and Hasek.

The 03/04 Avs casually added Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne for peanuts each just because they could (too bad they had David Aebischer in net). The pre salary cap days were pretty cool if you supported a team that could afford a $95M payroll, but sucked for everyone else.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

bewbies posted:

2001 Avalanche best team beats any team in a 7 game series period full stop.

Could they defeat Alf Smith and the 1905 Ottawa Senators though? The lack of a forward pass would hamper them greatly.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Chad Sexington posted:

Respectfully, this is a thread for winners, and the Avalanche, Red Wings and Devils don't really belong rn.

Says the Caps fan

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

The Ottawa Senators are in the Conference Finals?

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

I still maintain that the Sens are the only Canadian team allowed to win the cup because, despite arguments to the contrary, I just know the hand-wringing in the rest of the country, namely Toronto and Montreal, will be so good pump that thick poo poo straight into my veins

No one in this country gives the slightest crap about Ottawa, it's just so polite, bureaucratic and forgettable. How the rest of the world views Canada is how Canadians view Ottawa. A Senators cup win would barely register in the national consciousness.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

Canada finally wins a cup and all of you pretending not to care is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about

I genuinely like Ottawa as a city and I'd be a-okay with them winning the cup. They're the only other Canadian team I'd root for to do so before the Canucks. Plus they have Alex Burrows who I will love forever :shobon:

I think you're seriously overestimating how little people think about Ottawa. Any other Canadian team sure, you'd see a ton of crazy whining from other Canadian team fans (the fact that Edmonton could legitimately do it this year makes me break out in a cold sweat). However, with Ottawa it would be like if the San Diego Padres went on a playoff run, because I mean who has any ill will towards the city of San Diego?

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

I mean, that's exactly what I'm saying though

To use Tank's example in reverse. Imagine if the Blue Jays, returned Expos and expansion Vancouver Seals win every World Series for 15 years, then the loving incredible mountain of takes that would come from New York/Boston when the previously ignored Padres bring the championship back to America.

Okay, I see what you're getting at. Yes, of course there will be a bunch of stuff about 'bringing the cup home' if and when a Canadian team finally wins it. However, Ottawa is just about the most palatable choice for doing so because their fan base is the smallest in the country and the team and city are generally well regarded coast to coast. If Toronto or Montreal won it people would be up in arms and radio shows would be flooded with "NOT MAH TEAM" calls (sorta like how the country seemed to unite against the Canucks in 2011) but with Ottawa people will likely just shrug and say "well I guess that streak is over now."

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

flakeloaf posted:

Our fanbase is plenty big, we just don't have people willing to spend the time and money to go out to the Corel Tire Thingy and get stuck in the parking lot for an hour on our way home. Also our city's largest employers make it an ethical violation to receive tickets for free, which I'm guessing isn't a problem for the wall street types who keep getting interviewed about why they're going to MSG in a suit. Can't drive, won't pay, eff it let's just go to a bar or to Ed's place and watch the game there.

Yeah the arena thing doesn't help. I went to a Sens game 6 or 7 years ago and we legitimately thought we were lost because we were driving through corn fields and were about to turn around when all of a sudden a full sized NHL stadium materialized out of the blue. It's in just about the worst possible location imaginable.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Citizen Tayne posted:

It feels good to be the Patriots to Washington's Steelers

Except not the same at all given that the Steelers have a bunch of super bowls

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

VJeff posted:

Hey Citizen Tayne, I just wanna make sure real quick -- you're aware that you're not actually on the Penguins, right?

I'll have you know he touched the cup in crumpled khakis, so that's basically the same thing

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

yellowcar posted:

Get hosed Oilers.

Now your turn to get hosed Ducks.

I echo these sentiments.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Infidel Castro posted:

What a problem to have. I'd take 20 years of the Flyers being absolute poo poo if it meant I'd live to see them win a Cup.

Oh no I hope we don't win this cup just in case it means management makes a decision that slightly lowers our chances of winning another cup in the future.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

JawKnee posted:

I know ThinkTank, I know...

Perhaps on some far distant afternoon, we will look back and reflect on how the years of agony and heartbreak were worth it after all. That the anguish and jealousy weren't for naught. That we weren't the sorry castoffs of a cold and arbitrary universe, but travelers down the path of some grand purpose or design. Its twistings and turnings obscuring its ending, but nonetheless striding purposefully towards a joyous resolution.

Or perhaps not.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jordan7hm posted:

That said, if I was a Toronto or Vancouver fan I'd take a decade of miserable hockey for a cup in a heartbeat.

I would happily watch the Canucks finish dead last and pick fourth each year for the rest of my life if I got to see them win one cup.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/AnaheimDucks/status/862769912778969088

Sounds like the Ducks might be looking at repairing a decade long wrong.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

I love that Johansen said that Kesler doesn't get under his opponent's skin while complaining to the press about him. Kesler is the best, man do I ever miss that guy.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

We're getting awfully close to the "Phil Kessel is a big* game player" narrative and I love it.

*lol hotdogs

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Ginette Reno posted:

Apart from Steve Simmons did anyone ever doubt that? He's been a force every time he's been in the playoffs across three different teams.

I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that Kessel was dogged by a reputation for laziness and disinterested play up to and including his first few months in Pittsburgh. Seriously, google "Phil Kessel lazy" and marvel at all the incredibly original articles about how the Penguins should be buyer beware with him and/or the immediate dogpile on his play during the Pens' early season slump last year.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007


The Preds had two goals disallowed in a 15 second span last night.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:

Phil Kessel Is a Big Game Player segment literally just aired on NBCS, for the guy who wondered how close we were to that moment.

That was me. Donald Trump is president. England is no longer part of Europe. Phil Kessel is a Stanley Cup winning clutch performer.

We live in a fascinating and unpredictable age.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

And what does this say about the Caps losing a Game 7 to the Pens this year

There are some constants in the universe.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Just take it to OT please

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

glynnenstein posted:

You'd think each of those teams would be made up of different people playing different opponents in different situations over all that time, but I guess people wouldn't bring it up as if it meant anything if that was the case...

I mean most stats like that that are more than a year or two old are completely irrelevant, but drawing parallels and creating narratives from nothing are sorta what sports are about.

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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

If someone goes out of their way to insist they work really hard, they don't actually work that hard.

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