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Chad Sexington posted:Mostly it's just fans from New York parachuting in and telling people they are bad at being fans for not cheering enough or at the right times or something stupid. Sorry, I was Googling how many periods are in a hockey game. What'd I miss? Yaaay go team!
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I'm still puzzled by the calls on this play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ak0Msnd9I Rangers end up shorthanded. Fighting majors to Miller and Weber, double minor to Zuccarello, minor to Benn, nothing to Ott.
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Apr 15, 2017 16:15
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bewbies posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGjpo8CxqXY The 2002 western conference finals had more. The Wings alone had 10 Red Wings: Yzerman, Larionov, Datsyuk, Federov, Shanahan, Hull, Robataille, Lidstrom, Chelion, Hasek. Avalanche: Forsberg, Sakic, Blake, Roy
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Apr 17, 2017 16:12
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a false posted:AV could also play adam clendening, who is better than at least 3 of the defensemen who the rangers dressed last night, but he does not do that because Leadership and Experience or some poo poo Clendening is terrible and seems to meander indifferently around his own zone. He played two games against Montreal this year and looked lost in the general vicinity of his own net for four goals against him. https://www.nhl.com/video/webers-wrister-beats-lundqvist/t-283378694/c-49995803 https://www.nhl.com/video/lehkonen-slams-home-one-timer/t-283378694/c-49998903 https://www.nhl.com/video/shaws-wraparound-tally/t-283378694/c-50001403 https://www.nhl.com/video/emelins-game-tying-goal-in-3rd/t-283283424/c-48388203
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Apr 17, 2017 22:52
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T-Bone posted:When someone pulls a Mark Hardy again in the SCF, hockey will return This is the best, and it is awesome seeing a huge hit without a stupid scrum after it.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:21
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It's funny how the decline of fighting has coincided with the rise of stick-swinging, as has been forewarned by Stan Fischler dating back to 1961. Sucker punching, grounding and pounding, and old-fashioned enforcing have been replaced by nasty slashing and stickwork that refs decide to not call in the playoffs, and nutshots that the league rarely suspends for because they're not currently facing lawsuits about their past neglect of.
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Apr 19, 2017 07:48
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Thufir posted:I mean stickwork is unfortunate but probably still preferable to CTE in the long term. Pornographic Memory posted:i mean the nhl could fill the void left by the disappearance of enforcers with appropriate penalty calls, fines, and suspensions too, but i can understand why people might not consider that as an option given the nhl's historic competence with these things This is what I was suggesting, not bringing back skull-smashing.  Spearing is dangerous and it's a major penalty because of that. 95% of these are super obvious, on replay, but might be hard to catch for a ref on-ice. Make it a 1-game suspension. "Because it's the Cup."
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Apr 19, 2017 16:42
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There's a lot of stick work that looks close enough to a "hockey play" when guys are stick checking or battling for position, but nutshots are almost always not even close to being mistakable for good hockey plays. Getting his in the hands/wrists/ribs in front of the net battling for position? Could be a "hockey play" Getting stabbed with the tip of a stick in the groin away from the play? Nope.
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Apr 19, 2017 17:25
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Powershift posted:It's not just powerplays. Its allowing quick small forwards to make plays instead of being grabbed and held mid deke. Defensemen would have to change they way they play if they can't just grab the guy who can out skate them. Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:23
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A dirty play "below the belt"
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Apr 19, 2017 21:50
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Congratulations to all the optimistic fans who cheered for MAF and the Pens, and those who cheered for the Rangers, including their defense. The Rangers are winning hockey games and I like it. Dan Girardi is shutting down Patches and that's great.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:15
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Arabian Jesus posted:Kris Russel account spotted  No wonder he took a pay cut to go to the Oilers...he's actually Wayne Gretzky!
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Apr 23, 2017 23:38
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NHL Playoffs 2017: I want to punch our analytics people on a daily basis
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Apr 27, 2017 17:06
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I look forward to Boro getting burned by Grabner and probably burned and died by Kreider.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:41
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AV's biggest strength is also his weakness. He has been exceptional at getting a lot out of forward depth - be it Malhotra or Moore as the defensive zone faceoff specialist, or Grabner taking soft third line starts and burning guys on breakaways. He's good at getting something out of players who are not very good. He's got the immobile Dan Girardi as an immobile shot blocker/right crease coverer while letting McDonagh use his skating and strength a bit more. Minimized Girardi's badness, while McDonagh looks great most of the time. His nod to tough guy culture is Glass, who isn't very good at hockey, but also isn't a hothead and doesn't take many bad penalties. Glass is also decent at tying guys up off of faceoffs. The two Gs are both players who are not very good who have marginal utility in the roles he's found for them. He has been great at finding softer minutes for Smith and Skjei where they thrive - especially catching favorable matchups during changes - but the other side of it is that he finds it better to drop Staal and Holden on a defensive zone faceoff and out out the others on the fly, rather than the other way around. I get the system and why he does it, it's just had notably awful consequences a few times.
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May 2, 2017 00:42
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Kovalchuk wants to go to NYC or Florida? Huh. https://twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858785019585757186
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May 2, 2017 00:48
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Matt Zerella posted:Tough but fair but also IIRC the Rangers and Devils have never traded with each other and we need defense, not offense. The last trade between the two franchises was when the Colorado Rockies traded Barry Beck to the Rangers in 1979 the day after he offended coach Don Cherry by shooing his dog away for wiping his rear end on the floor in front of his locker.
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May 2, 2017 01:37
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I like how the Rangers constantly find ways to win games when one part of the team collapses. It makes me feel good for not being a pessimistic Girardi-hater.
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May 3, 2017 02:51
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It's funny how the narrative is about Tanner Glass being the difference maker, when he was only minimally effective as a 12th forward - it wasn't even a grindy hitting game like in Montreal. The real turnaround for the Rangers was how they reworked their transition to take advantage of Sens forwards playing up in the neutral zone (1-3-1) to make a lot of east-west passes right after entering the zone. That generally isn't viable against a good team with two defenders back, but they managed to find a lot of moments when they had 2-3 men in the zone with only one defender between them, and another catching up on the backcheck. The improved transition game also helped AV utilize Skjei and Smith much more. Girardi also looked a lot better playing much more conservatively and retrieving the puck and moving it to McDonagh. I think he effectively got the whole team away from playing like Staal and Holden, though he found them some shifts later in the game as to not wear out the top four too much.
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May 3, 2017 06:02
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Furnaceface posted:I mean yeah diving and not getting caught is a thing but the league will fine you if you do it too often or if its blatant enough, even after the fact, despite getting away with it during the game. It happened to Blandisi. Twice. In a single season. I once saw Blandisi take four diving penalties in one game. He really earned the reputation.
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May 4, 2017 14:48
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I think there's zero chance Murray gets picked in the expansion draft. If the Pens can't protect him, then he'll be traded. He's likely the best player available in that draft, and there's no reason they wouldn't want to get that value out of him and lose the next best player. Even with returns for top goalies generally being low, there's a few rebuilding teams who would do well to trade something like a high pick for him. Schneider fetched the 9th overall, Talbot fetched a couple picks, something like that, I guess.
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May 11, 2017 17:20
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Ginette Reno posted:With Fleury's play he probably has some value now as well. Not in the sense of getting assets because goalies always bring back poo poo in return but in the sense that someone might actually want him now. Prior to this playoff run it was a legitimate question as to whether or not a team might want Maf. Fleury's partial NTC can easily block a move to any team that doesn't have a goalie they want to protect. It's more or less up to him whether or not he wants to leave and I don't see why he would.
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May 11, 2017 20:21
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MAF lists 18 teams he can be traded to, and it is pretty easy to look down this list and see 18 teams who are already set on their starting goalie, due to performance, no-trade clauses, and cap hits. He can easily block a trade if he wants. https://capfriendly.com/browse/active/2017/caphit/all/goalies
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May 12, 2017 05:27
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If the Pens buy out Fleury, I really hope he signs with the Flyers. That would be amazing.
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DJExile posted:Wasn't that kinda the way Chris Chelios played too? He was never a very physical guy but was able to play basically forever? Chelios definitely didn't shy away from physical play. He was skilled enough to able to use his stick and positioning effectively, so he wasn't a "hit first" kinda guy, but he had a mean streak, too. He'd hit guys for the hell of it, not because he had no other choice. He had almost 3000 PIM and dozens of fights. I recall John Davidson commenting on how he had become less aggressive in the late 90s, and recounting his reputation as a nasty guy in the past. He was always a tough player, he just wasn't one of the oversized intimidators who would hit at every chance, since he was also very skilled. myron cope posted:This was also Nick Lidstrom, right? I feel like I heard that description before Lidstrom was much more effective with some space, so for the last years of his career, Kronwall would always be the one to go back and retrieve the puck on dump-ins, regardless of side. He was so good with his stick and positioning that he didn't need to hit much. That being said, they were both still defensemen who would use their bodies when needed. Kessel is a forward and he's way more effective both at forechecking and backchecking without throwing hits.
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Did he cross the line? This is worse than a coaches challenge on offsides.
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