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B | 77 | 25.50% | |
K | 160 | 52.98% | |
M | 65 | 21.52% | |
Total: | 229 votes |
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:I heard the Russians travelled back in time to hobble the republic, too.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 17:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 10:11 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Look at how the majority of the centrists in this thread can't actually offer any defense for Perez lying about having a fifty state strateg.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 17:45 |
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Ytlaya posted:Even if you think that every Republican voter is trash that should literally suffer and die, not every single person who lives in Republican areas is Republican themselves. Many are also children (or other dependents like the mentally disabled).
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2017 17:24 |
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Condiv posted:i wonder why the rich and powerful have easy access over everyone else
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 18:46 |
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HannibalBarca posted:The article seems to indicate that Bill was a toxic influence though and was basically encouraging Hillary to place the blame anywhere but with herself. Cerebral Bore posted:Hillary was in charge. She had total freedom to pick her staff and sack them if she wanted to. The blame is entirely on her when she didn't take the necessary actions to improve her "ground game" or get her and her staff to make her case or any other fuckup of her campaign which, once again, she had full freedom to run as she pleased. She doesn't get to blame anybody else.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 21:19 |
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WampaLord posted:I would also like to point out that pre-election, we were all whooping it up at symptoms of Trump's campaign looking this way.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 05:52 |
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axeil posted:Eh the reason I'm still one of those scary ~*centrist*~ boogeymen is because I'm more worried if we go for big sweeping reform all at once the country will literally fall into fascism. I mean, if the little incremental changes of Obamacare and actually regulating business/the environment caused this, what would happen if the status quo was attacked even more fiercely?
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 20:49 |
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Paradoxish posted:I'm calling it questionable because people like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair didn't actually run from the term or try to disguise it. It wasn't something that was thrown at them as an insult, it was just what they were. Hillary Clinton's 2016 platform was center-left by American standards and I think it's fine to call her a centrist, but I hate seeing "third wayism" thrown around as a derogatory term because it leads to all sorts of stupid pedantic arguments (like this one).
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 05:40 |
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NewForumSoftware posted:To be fair, I imagine, like myself, most of us were in our late teens and early 20s and fringe positions are pretty popular for that age group. There are also probably a shitload of people here who opposed 9/11 even though that was also a fringe position 15 years ago.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 17:03 |
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readingatwork posted:"It does not solve racism, therefore the only reason you could want it is because you are racist." Calibanibal posted:honestly if hillary had advocated for any form of justice at all i would have been content
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 20:32 |
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shrike82 posted:I didn't realize Trump won the election with 80% of the vote. It's really too bad Bernie with the popularity of leftism in the country couldn't even win the primaries.
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# ¿ May 4, 2017 19:14 |
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shrike82 posted:And that makes Trump win 80% of the vote how?
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# ¿ May 4, 2017 19:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 10:11 |
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Paradoxish posted:Capitalism is probably salvageable, but you kind of need to acknowledge how bad it is right now if you want to even begin that discussion.
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 20:35 |