The democrats are a waste

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SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

So who is the working class candidate running in 2020? I can't imagine that the spot will be vacant. Is Bernie going to run again he's loving old lol

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SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

defrauding banks is cool and good and should happen more often, in my opinion

# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 15:27

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

WampaLord posted:

Yes, this is a good post.

The fact that total unknown Sanders got so close to beating literal household name Hillary Rodham Clinton proves that there is a huge base out there hungry for this stuff. We know the DNC/Hillary/neoliberal side will resist every step of the way, but we outnumber them.

Also, in this era of crowdfunding, I'm not sure why big party donors need to be catered to any more. Run a GoFundMe to get into local office!

but people are still generally happy with the status quo, even if they raise a rabble here and there. most of the left isn't literally starving yet

# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 21:54

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Sneakster posted:

...have you ever been in a ghetto?

EDIT:

Holy poo poo: https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/887019075322302466

The violence inherent to the system is being routed towards people in power? Oh dear, I hope this doesn't hurt property values.

Seriously though, the idea of things having reached a point that violence is becoming normalized is terrifying and that the democrats refuse to address this is enraging and depressing. I don't want to live in a society this broken and I don't romanticize the reality of violence as a basis of reform, but I can't delude myself into seeing anything being offered by party leadership as giving any feasible alternative when we're slipping further away from the notion of quality of life of a first world country.

E2:

An obscure independent socialist with no corporate sponsors went the distance in a national primary against a Clinton, who then went on to lose in the general against a notorious conman from reality TV who publicly stated he sleeps with a copy of Mein Kampf in his dresser. The reality TV candidate was mostly voted in by the upper middle class, who the middle class then blamed on the poor, while the GOP attacked open elections. Within a few months of assuming the office, the openly nazi NBC owned character from the Bachelor turned out to be a puppet of the Russian Mafia who immediately destroyed the state department in the most successful campaign of sabotage in history. He was then investigated in a watergate-dwarfing criminal conspiracy potentially bordering on treason. The GOP started physically assaulting reporters and plotted legislation that would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans leading to the poor rising up and attacking congressmen in what may become open class war. The democrats sat in the corner and called everyone racist.

Wow. What a time.

Since I'm going to school for social work and also live in shitville Alabama, I've seen poverty. But the majority of people are ok enough that they won't agitate and the others are too beaten down to.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 19:09

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Leftists don't have to be anti gun hth

# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 20:34

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Lol at working with blue dogs. Yes let's meet up with Republicans in blue to reform the republican lite party. What the gently caress are you talking about.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 20:43

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

How many socialist climate deniers do you know, Trab

# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 21:32

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

^Three Strikes, redoing welfare, etc.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 16:32

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

When I was volunteering around here for the local dems I never heard any of them (the dems) say that they disliked Bernie or thought he was wrong. They just thought that Hillary was more likely to beat trump since she was a solid contender in the political arena already and Bernie was an outsider.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 01:49

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

I don't think leftists are for slavery... Unless you count slavery of the bouigiouse

# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 01:57

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Maybe you should just study harder to ignore the hunger in your stomach, little Timmy.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 23:40

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Grouchio posted:

Welcome to loving reality.

Lol I lived in this so I know.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 00:03

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Haha yeah but you're critical of the democratic party so even if you vote for them you're the reason Republicans won ~ Fulchrum

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 02:36

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Fulchrum posted:

Do you understand this concept of democracy? That things need to get votes? That we can't just wave a magic wand and change things overnight in a way that forever blocks Republicans from changing it back?

My man have you heard of gerrymandering or looked at an electoral map for any state lately? The Republicans have done this to a large extent.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 02:38

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Fulchrum has been posting in this thread for 11 hours straight by the way.
That's a lot of dedication to defending Hillary and the center-right blue dogs.

Mister Facetious posted:

Yeah, I somewhat misremembered the details; she was cheerleading war with Iran, whether preemptive or retaliatory.

Cheerleading wars? Why I never.

SSJ_naruto_2003 fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jul 21, 2017

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 10:47

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

No loving way she runs again. Maybe her surrogate but... Just no way.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 21:08

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

I think if Hillary runs again I'll end up in an asylum.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 21:28

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

C. Everett Koop posted:

I assume you were drinking from an enormous bucket of paint before and after this post.

I don't think he was serious.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 02:59

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Actually that's both parties.

Do you love business but hate gay people? Vote Republican!

Do you love business but not hate gay people (usually)? Vote Democrat!

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 21:16

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

maybe the democrats... are a waste :thunk:

# ¿ Aug 6, 2017 06:50

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

Kilroy posted:

I can understand disliking the hopelessness of it, and agree that encouraging people to ignore them is completely the wrong message. I do think many people missed the part where the cake was an American flag and she was angrily tearing it apart with her fork throughout the bit. So there was a bit of a subversive tone to it. Not enough, though.

tbh unless someone gets up and says "go kill the bourgeoisie today" it won't be enough

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SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

I assume most leftists don't actually operate on horseshoe theory like you seem to.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 05:53

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