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I love that you're weaselling into arguing that you don't have to vote against the fascist. This poo poo really reeks of leftist myopia a la Weimar leftists and the Nazis. My precious ideological purity
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May 3, 2017 09:33
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A vote for fascism then, awesome. Stop pretending you're speaking for the good of the public then.
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May 3, 2017 09:38
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I love how leftists can't help themselves. Voting for Hillary literally made Trump the president whereas the Bernie voters like Condiv who didn't bother voting in the actual elections out of disgust were doing the morally right thing because they didn't owe anything to Abuela. Good job Condiv and I expect 8 years of Trump because you won't vote for Corey Booker in 2020.
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May 3, 2017 09:40
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Kilroy posted:Okay will do. Get hosed. That's great! Finally someone actually doing what they profess and joining a leftist party.
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May 3, 2017 09:41
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Aah the Kaepernick defense.
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May 3, 2017 09:46
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Kilroy posted:Uh remember when you mentioned we should join the DSA? I will vote for the most leftist candidate on the ballot in 2020. Thanks. That's great! Just don't vote for Jill stein again
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May 3, 2017 09:50
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Yeah it's pretty funny how half of the leftists here didn't even bother voting in the election and are beating their chests about how the Democrat party needs to listen to them.
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May 3, 2017 09:54
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Again, if you didn't bother voting for Hillary in an election against an orange fascist, the Democrat party isn't for you?
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May 3, 2017 09:56
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That's true so join the DSA and don't bother with the Democrat party. Why moan and gnash about a party that doesn't represent you?
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May 3, 2017 09:58
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Thanks. I'm just concerned with this white chapo trap house strain of leftism that's prioritizing issues like the white racist working class over gender and ethnic minorities. If I manage to get a couple leftists to vote for Corey Booker, that's great!
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May 3, 2017 10:08
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"you don't know anything about politics" says the man who voted for Jill Stein. Good one kilroy
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May 3, 2017 10:13
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ooh we've got an actual defender of chapo itt. So why do you think the white racist class should be prioritized over gender and ethnic minorities?
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May 3, 2017 10:16
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You must be posting from an alternate universe where Jill won. What do you without vaccines mate?
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May 3, 2017 10:18
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I think it's pretty safe to say none of the leftists here voted for Hillary which is pretty hilarious. Charlie voted for Trump. Condiv for Sanders. Kilroy for Stein. Lmao
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May 3, 2017 10:20
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Ytlaya posted:I'm pretty sure this isn't true. I can only think of maybe 2 or 3 common posters in this thread who didn't vote or voted for some third party candidate like Stein (and that's ignoring the fact that if they did so in a non-swing state, there really wasn't any potential harm caused). Call Me Charlie posted:That was 2012. In 2016, I voted for Trump after voting for Bernie in the primary. lol
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May 3, 2017 17:24
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It's kinda sad that you have to make personal attacks - "he must be a centrist because a leftist dumped him". But I guess that's par for the course for Sanderistas being blind about race, gender, or any issues outside of white needs. We're seeing the exact same white leftist accelerationism play out in France with white leftists literally saying there's no difference between Le Pen and Macron. Only someone without any ties to immigrant, ethnic minorities can say. But good that you can claim that you're ideologically pure while Trump continues to trample over minorities.
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May 3, 2017 17:32
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Err, that's the exact opposite of what Killary did. If anything, Sanderistas have been beating Abuela's campaign over the head about how she should have focused on winning the 50%+1 over trying to run the board. Stein 2020 I guess.
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May 4, 2017 01:49
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Weren't the faithless electors trying to vote for Sanders? Talk about Sanders supporters trying to spin leftists being faithless into a fault of Hillary's
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May 4, 2017 02:33
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Iron Twinkie posted:He's not talking about where she ran adds but what was she was actually selling. Hillary ran on 75% Trump bad and the remaining 25% was a mix of idpol and centrism. If you were part of the 4/5ths of the country that's slowly rotting and weren't all that afraid of Trump, she offered you nothing. I didn't realize Trump won the election with 80% of the vote. It's really too bad Bernie with the popularity of leftism in the country couldn't even win the primaries.
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May 4, 2017 02:53
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Lower than hated centrists Obama and his wife. Again, seems to run counter to Americans loving leftism and hating neoliberalism.
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May 4, 2017 02:59
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OK, let's see Bernie run against Corey Booker in 2020. I can't wait to see a rehash of this except with Bernie aged another 3 years and with less popularity.
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May 4, 2017 03:03
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Man, it's something to see Sanderistas doubling down on wanting to fault Hillary for Bernie electors choosing to be faithless. That's something special alright.
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May 4, 2017 03:10
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4 out of 8 but what's fudging numbers between leftists
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May 4, 2017 03:14
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I can see this self-deception that seems endemic to Bernie voters about basic facts of the election becoming an issue in 2020 and becoming a more general leftist "stabbed in the back" cultural myth a la Chapo Trap House "actually the Russians aren't that bad compared to hated Killary" bullshit. But again, I suspect most of these extreme Sanders-supporters are 100% white males and don't have to worry about deportations or healthcare for women.
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May 4, 2017 03:19
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Probably Magic posted:You should stop invoking Chapo Trap House when you clearly know nothing about them. Nah, I gave them a listen and it's a patreon-funded million dollar payout for a bunch of educated unemployed white men playing at leftists while not engaging in any real activism. Slacktivism at its best but I love Bernie voters coming out of the woodwork to defend them.
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May 4, 2017 03:49
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Pretty hilarious to see Sanderites who themselves voted for Trump (e.g., Call me Charlie), or third party losers like Stein (e.g., Kilroy and VitalSigns) have to resort to accusing Democrats of voting for Trump.
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May 4, 2017 04:03
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No, I agree that Bernie should run against Corey Booker in 2020. We'll test the hypothesis in real life of whether personality killed Abuela's campaign or whether it was neoliberalism. My personal bet is that Booker will win so having a healthy culling of Sanderites especially since Bernie will be pushing 80 in 2020 isn't a bad thing.
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May 4, 2017 04:14
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There's something to be said about how the leftist movement is so vacuous that they'll have to draft an 80-year old man to lead their movement.
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May 4, 2017 04:22
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Sanders electors voting for Powell is something stupid.
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May 4, 2017 04:35
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Stuff like this and the DNC saying in court that they aren't obliged to hold fair primaries should make the average leftist why they bother voting for Democrats at all. Just vote third party in 2020.
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May 4, 2017 05:36
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Sadly you have to pick your poison - Sanders and Warren carry water for the Israeli occupation Biden opposes weed legalization and pushes for capital punishment Stein is an antivaxxer
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May 4, 2017 06:10
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Homeless Friend posted:You wasted your vote, Trump won. I've learnt my lesson and am voting third party in 2020!
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May 4, 2017 06:56
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May 4, 2017 07:18
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I didn't realize the Muslims have approved a vote for Le Pen over Macron but thanks for speaking for them. And TIC, given your consistent racism about Arab/Muslim malice in any Israeli-Palestine thread, I'm not surprised you're pushing for Le Pen.
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May 4, 2017 10:24
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To use the same argument, if leftism is so self-evidently popular, why can't it succeed by itself? Not just in the US but literally any country in the world. QED
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May 4, 2017 18:37
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And that makes Trump win 80% of the vote how?
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May 4, 2017 19:15
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VitalSigns posted:Ah but social democracy has the advantage of being morally good, as well as a solid record of superior performance to liberalism on every metric except "do the rich love it". It's really too bad most social democracies across the world are moving towards neoliberalism whether it's UK, France, or Germany. Again, if leftism is so self-evidently popular, why can't it succeed? 
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May 5, 2017 02:29
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I'm happy to talk about American history. It's a lot more interesting than white male leftists prioritizing their middle class needs over ethnic minorities and women's healthcare. Obsessing about how Hillary and Obama are anti-left neoliberals in light of the House voting to repeal Obamacare is really eye opening.
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May 5, 2017 02:45
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And we're now at the stage that leftists are blaming Hillary and Obama on Republicans killing Obamacare. I have to admit being surprised at the depth of the Obama Derangement Syndrome at this point.
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Are leftists seriously telling centrists to join the GOP now?
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