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Wonder Man has been inside if my 3 favorite Marvel ladies; Rogue, Carol and Wanda. I am sensing a pattern here.
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haitfais posted:Pretty sure that's how most people would react to kissing Deadpool. Hey now, I really like the Rogue/Wade romance. twistedmentat posted:Wonder Man has been inside if my 3 favorite Marvel ladies; Rogue, Carol and Wanda. I am sensing a pattern here. Grosssssssss
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Jun 15, 2017 17:51
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/875030875636989952 Did people get offended by House of M, or did that not count because it was an alternate reality? And are people really ignoring that evil mutants are always trying to oppress normal humans?
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Jun 15, 2017 18:06
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And who's in charge there and what their powerset is.
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Jun 15, 2017 18:08
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/875030875636989952 To be fair, that's not an X-Book - and this isn't exactly high on the list of the problems with Secret Empire.
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Jun 15, 2017 18:25
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I wonder if those are intentionally the Morrison era jackets.
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Jun 15, 2017 18:27
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Aphrodite posted:I wonder if those are intentionally the Morrison era jackets. I think that's pretty clear.
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Jun 15, 2017 18:37
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It even fits with the thread title. The last time the X-Men became super heroes again was after Morrison's run. Having a group in the more paramilitary outfits to contrast the spandex clad X-Men is a pretty smart idea. What's the deal there? I haven't been reading any tie ins, but I've been enjoying the main series.
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Jun 15, 2017 19:10
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Aphrodite posted:I wonder if those are intentionally the Morrison era jackets. I like how they look like Cyclops. Cycops.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:06
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no. Cyclops did nothing wrong, these guys are just dicks.
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Soonmot posted:no. Cyclops did nothing wrong, these guys are just dicks. Cyclops Was Right
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Belatedly catching up with the latest X-Men: Blue and while I can usually take or leave the alternate reality bad guy crew thing, I can't deny the last page got me all "oh gently caress" at seeing what it was Jean found. Having gotten into the X-Men just before the Fall of the Mutants, seeing *that* particular fashion accessory presses all kinds of childhood trauma buttons.
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Sentinel Red posted:Belatedly catching up with the latest X-Men: Blue and while I can usually take or leave the alternate reality bad guy crew thing, I can't deny the last page got me all "oh gently caress" at seeing what it was Jean found. Having gotten into the X-Men just before the Fall of the Mutants, seeing *that* particular fashion accessory presses all kinds of childhood trauma buttons. That's Malice right? It's been awhile since I've read that old X-Men/X-Factor stuff. Also, are there two different Sinisters now? Mr. and Ms.? That's weird as hell.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:34
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Sinister clones the hell out of himself.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:46
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Aphrodite posted:Sinister clones the hell out of himself. Yeah I vaguely remember him dying and then finding out a way to survive in a lady (Ms. Sinister). But then I read the UXM and AvX stuff and saw that he was back and looking all Victorian-era. Oh well.
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Jun 21, 2017 18:09
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Sinister is literally made of continuity holes.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:28
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Just prior to the Phoenix coming back he'd cloned himself into an entire underground city of Sinisters.
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Jun 22, 2017 05:33
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Rhyno posted:Just prior to the Phoenix coming back he'd cloned himself into an entire underground city of Sinisters. He also killed and replaced Scott's press agent in a super cold move
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Jun 22, 2017 06:08
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Weapons of Mutant Destruction doesn't seem that essential to the crossover between Weapon X/Hulk, but I enjoyed it just the same. The new Weapon X book continues to be one of the better X relaunches and I feel like this crossover might give the Cho Hulk series some actual direction, as it's felt kind of aimless of the past few months.
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Fake Edit: I originally wrote this for another thread but this seemed a more appropriate place. I just read Executioner's Song because it was on the weekly reading club on Marvel Unlimited, and loving Christ, how did anyone continue to care about X-Men in any capacity in the 90's? I literally don't know why anything in any of those issues happened aside from some foreshadowing that Scott and Jean are the parents of Cable (or maybe Stryfe). The best moment in the entire thing was the epilogue where Jubilee takes Professor X rollerblading because his legs work for a day. There's literally a bit where Scott and Jean are escaping Stryfe, find a baby are told they have to kill the baby to escape and when they don't kill the baby and Stryfe is so confused that they wouldn't kill a baby he let's them go anyways and then they escape; to the surface of the moon. Except it's not the blue part of the moon where where you can breathe, it's the normal part of the moon where you die. Are all of 90's X-Men this bad?
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Jun 25, 2017 06:12
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Bro that is peak X-Men and it fuckin' ROCKED.
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Now just imagine how hard it was for the guys like Peter David trying to tell coherent stories in X-Factor while still acting as random parts to X-Cutioner Songs/Fatal Attractions/Phalanx Covenants. But Rhyno's right, that's peak 90s X-Men baby Tato fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Jun 25, 2017 06:30
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Rhyno posted:Bro that is peak X-Men and it fuckin' ROCKED. What was the point of any of it? Cable (actually Stryfe) shoots Professor X in the head, except he doesn't die, but he's got the legacy virus and the New Mutants fight the X-Men because Cable is their leader and they lose. And then Mister Sinister kidnaps Scott and Jean and gives them to Stryfe and there's a bunch of fights between Sinister's goons and the X-Men and then Sinister says he'll save Prof. X's life, and then the poo poo with the baby and the moon I just mentioned happened. At the end it's mostly status quo except there's a scene where Gabit is a creeper on Rogue. Oh gently caress, I haven't read a lot of Gambit comics, but what I have read makes it seem the only reason Gambit hasn't sexually assaulted Rogue is because he would likely die. Yes, Rogue has extra reasons for not wanting to be touched, but if Gambit talked to, say Storm, the way he talks to Rogue he'd be a loving Bananas Foster. Seriously, why did any character do anything that they did in the comic?
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That story took place when Cable was kind of an unknown and X-Force was seen as something of a terrorist group, and Cable was seen as leading the former New Mutants down the wrong path. Stryfe thought himself to be the real Nathan Summers, and thought that Scott sent him away to the future to save his own life, when in reality Stryfe is the clone and Scott sent Nathan to the future because it was the only way to save him from the techno-organic virus. This is why Stryfe is loving with Scott and Jean, because he thought they were selfish for their actions, when it was actually selflessness. This was also the first time in the comics we had confirmation that Cable was Scott's son. Stryfe also tricked Sinister into opening something which he promised would contain the DNA of Scott and Jean's kid, which Sinister has always wanted, but it was actually the Legacy Virus. X-Cutioner's Song was pretty much just set up to confirm the Cable is Nathan Summers theory, and Stryfe was Cable's clone.
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Tato posted:Now just imagine how hard it was for the guys like Peter David trying to tell coherent stories in X-Factor while still acting as random parts to X-Cutioner Songs/Fatal Attractions/Phalanx Covenants. It's better. During that crossover there is an issue if x-factor that did not have any members of X-factor in it
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Codependent Poster posted:That story took place when Cable was kind of an unknown and X-Force was seen as something of a terrorist group, and Cable was seen as leading the former New Mutants down the wrong path. This is all poo poo Chris Claremont could have done in 2 issues (3 if you count the obvious New Mutants cross over).
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The X-Factor books were the best part of that crossover. "Alright I know we're all badasses here so someone's going to get hurt in this fight. It's probably me."
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Jun 25, 2017 07:05
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X-Cutioner's Song was great because the epilogue featured Jubilee taking Xavier rollerblading.
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Endless Mike posted:X-Cutioner's Song was great because the epilogue featured Jubilee taking Xavier rollerblading. Skwirl posted:
Literally my entire thesis
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I remember liking X-Cutioner's song, but it was also one of the last X-Men crossovers I read for years and years so maybe I didn't like as much as I think I did? Anyway I read Iceman #1 since Marvel gave it away for free. And it's great. So I'm pretty much buying every X-Book except Gen X and Weapon X at this point. I don't think I've ever liked this many X-Books being published at once. I still plan on reading Soule's book and if they drop a Peter David X-Factor book I'll be all over that as well. So far Blue and Jean Grey are easily the best of the runs, but that's no knock on Gold, Iceman, or Cable at all. I really like this malfunctioning Super Sentinel story in Gold right now for instance where it's been attacking anyone with a genetic mutation at all no matter how small. You have a third nipple? A Super Sentinel is coming to kill you, sorry. It seems like such a no-brainer of a story that I have to wonder if it's ever been done before. Plus it put a bit of the spotlight on Rachel Summers and we even got her hallucinating Future Franklin which is the kind of callbacks I love. All New Wolverine is still as great as it has been and I really liked the first issue of Old Man Logan with the new creative team as well. So all is good in the X-Men world as far as I'm concerned right now. X-O fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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X-Men Blue is really good. I just hope they add another female cast member to the team pretty soon. And please avoid another Scott/Jean/Wolverine love triangle.
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They did say at a panel that Emma and Polaris are coming to X-Men Blue. Emma probably wont be joining the team after her last appearance, but Polaris maybe?
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I love PAD but after All Nee X-Factor it's probably time to let someone else take the reigns.
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Rhyno posted:Bro that is peak X-Men and it fuckin' ROCKED. I started reading X-men comics as a kid approximately six months before X-cutioner's song dropped, and let me tell you, it was the best and most 90's thing that ever happened. I ended up getting subscriptions (remember those?) to every single x-book just to folow it.
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Skwirl posted:Are all of 90's X-Men this bad? If you think of Inferno as the payoff of the previous 3-4 years of X-book plotlines, X-Cutioner's Song was the same with the post-Inferno status quo. If you're reading the event without also reading a bit of the stuff leading into it, you're not going to get much out of it and will find it dumb as hell. Same with Inferno, which I think we mostly agree was a good story and did a lot to wrap up the late 80s status quo. I get that the 90s X-books has a rap for being very bad by the end, but the stuff from this era wasn't bad. It really didn't go off the rails until after Age of Apocalypse, and even then some of the stuff was very good (Generation X mostly)
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I was cleaning out my parent's attic and found a box of old cards which included all the trading cards that came with the Executioner's Song issues.  Synthbuttrange posted:The X-Factor books were the best part of that crossover. The only part I remember from the X-Factor issues was when Wolfsbane mauled Feral, which led to the start of the mandated therapy issue which was pretty great. 
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rkajdi posted:I get that the 90s X-books has a rap for being very bad by the end, but the stuff from this era wasn't bad. It really didn't go off the rails until after Age of Apocalypse, and even then some of the stuff was very good (Generation X mostly) Basically, 90's X-men took Claremont's schtick of teasing out foreshadowing of upcoming events to the N-th level, but it didn't have Claremont's knack of actually paying anything off. So these days, we know that it's all sizzle, no steak, but at the time, it was pretty juicy sizzle. Kalli posted:The only part I remember from the X-Factor issues was when Wolfsbane mauled Feral, which led to the start of the mandated therapy issue which was pretty great.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Basically, 90's X-men took Claremont's schtick of teasing out foreshadowing of upcoming events to the N-th level, but it didn't have Claremont's knack of actually paying anything off. So these days, we know that it's all sizzle, no steak, but at the time, it was pretty juicy sizzle. I think Number One Fan was in a different issue. This one was all in the heads of the characters. It's the ultimate talking heads issue, but I don't think you can really criticize it for the usual critiques that get lobbed at say Bendis. The one from the later PAD X-factor series was also pretty good, but I get the feeling that I was the only one who kept up with that book until it actually was cancelled.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:That issue is still my favorite single issue comic that I own. Is it the same one that has Quicksilver explaining why he's always so pissed off? If so, also one of my favorites.
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Jedi posted:Is it the same one that has Quicksilver explaining why he's always so pissed off? If so, also one of my favorites. Yeah it is, it's a great issue. Also has Strong Guy's pain reveal. Man that's a good issue. Also the Number 1 Fan bit was right before the X-cutioners song issues, so like 4-5 issues before it. It was when they were dealing with the ship full of mutant refugees from Genosha after the whole X-tinction Agenda crossover.
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