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On the Krakoa world map, most of Japan has vanished. Art error... or cluuuuuue???
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2019 13:29 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 16:16 |
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Alright, I was kind of down on House of X. Powers of X, however, is bananas. Any single one of the ideas getting thrown around here could fuel several years worth of comics, and there's like twelve. I can't even tell if it's good, really, but it is ambitious as all hell. I had kind of resigned myself to the idea that Hickman's run would be long on big ideas and short on sharp characterization... and then we get goofy Nimrod, who is immediately one of my favorite characters. Also, Nimrod is doing not just X-Men 2099, but X-Men 3099. Also also, the fact that Nimrod and his followers in the year 3099 have killed all humans. I'm really hoping we get some Warlock or Danger perspectives on this future three way human-robot-mutant war. Really loved the historian's note of "in retrospect, it should have been obvious that Sinister was going to betray us."
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2019 12:31 |
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Avicus posted:Maybe Moira VI teams up with Sinister. I don't want to think about how her power would work with clones... I was kind of thinking Sinister just because he's the only major X-villain Moira isn't recorded as seeking out, besides obviously unhelpful groups like the Purifiers. Either that or maybe a DoFP timeline, since she really goes hard after the Trasks in the next life. I don't remember all that Legacy Virus business well, but wasn't Moira (supposedly) the first human victim of it? Did it jump to any humans after her? Man, this is a really gonzo issue.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 15:49 |
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Skwirl posted:You are in for a loving treat. Not since Kirby left Fantastic Four was there a more important or entertaining superhero book published. Claremont's run absolutely holds the hell up. I've been going through a full reread for the first time in more than a decade and the difference between it and basically anything else being published is night and day--not necessarily (but often) in terms of quality, but there's just a deftness of characterization and a density of story that rewards close reading.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2019 15:26 |
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Parallax posted:it's less cultural stuff like this (although i was thinking, if its only been ten years then colossus would come from a completely different russia, and would probably be quite a different character,) and more the idea that a character like kitty who joins the x-men when she's 13.5 but is now written like she's in her late 20s early 30s? when generously she should be like, 19-20 years old Kitty is like 24 at the oldest, maybe even younger. I'm pretty sure all the O5 are only like 28ish at this point. Kitty in particular is kind of weird because she was aging pretty consistently for a while, and then hit 18 and everything just slowed the gently caress down.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 17:58 |
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I'm expecting the upshot to all the stuff re. the Phalanx in this issue to be that the only thing that can avert humanity's absorption into the Phalanx singularity is mutantkind, and without mutants the universe is fated to become a single robot entity. The idea being, presumably, that regular life-forms can't adapt fast enough to outpace robot evolution. Hell if I know which life that's taking place in, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on with the X^3 stuff.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2019 18:12 |
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Yeah, the limit on the number of Moira's lives is a really weird issue. I have to assume that continuity is going to continue on her latest life, which means that it's going to have to incorporate the tragic death of a 12 year-old or younger girl, or just ignore Destiny's rather specific warning. I was thinking that Moira might have lost her powers on M-Day and so she's just going to die at the end of this one, but Life 4 seemed basically to mirror the current path of the X-Men, including the "Lost Decade." Maybe she was one of those to remain mutant back then and she lost her powers this time?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2019 05:49 |
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Neurosis posted:Diplomatic immunity exempts representatives of a nation from the jurisdiction of the courts of other countries. It's a personal immunity, attaching to everything a representative of a foreign sovereign does. It is indeed how it works - it's just no nation has ever claimed (to my knowledge) every one of its citizens is subject to that immunity. I imagine the custom would quickly disappear if nations regularly tried this kind of thing. It resembles in many ways the unequal treaties forced by colonizers on their colonies in the 1800s, which makes sense because mutants are operating from an advantageous position. There's some real interesting stuff in this series about inevitabilities in the way that mechanical beings develop. First you have the Phalanx from a couple issues ago, and now the idea that a Sentinel-producing culture will lead, eventually, to a self-aware, self-replicating Nimrod. I'm starting to wonder who's writing the exposition pages. They definitely seem like they're in-universe. I would assume it's largely based on stuff Moira's picked up in her lives, or maybe Nimrod's databanks in the far future, but even ten lifetimes seems like a few too few to start making broad statements about the inevitability of the Singularity.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 13:22 |
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Neurosis posted:Hickman has almost certainly been doing a lot of that. A lot of his comics present information like that. He missed out on his calling somewhere in the corporate world. I think he's talking from an in-universe perspective? At least, I've been wondering that. From the tone of stuff like "the pretender" it's clearly supposed to be written by someone in-universe. I was thinking it was info compiled by Moira through her lives and prepared for the Moira X timeline. Was it a plot point or even brought up at the time that the destruction of Genosha killed almost all mutants? I don't remember that being a thing at all, but the infographic had 16 of the world's then-17 million mutants on Genosha at the time. Morrison was leaning hard into the mutants on the rise stuff at the time so it seems likely that wasn't his intention.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 10:47 |
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danbanana posted:Yeah, it's very explicit how many die in E is for Extinction and it's one of the bigger issues I have with Morrison's run. Committing a Holocaust-like event on a metaphor group like mutants should be the only thing that gets mentioned for about five years in that book. Instead, Morrison jumps to telling stories about high school kids getting detention and convoluted plots about Magneto pretending to have a black hole brain. Part of his argument was that it made being a mutant more unique, as if having another 1M or 17M mutants makes a difference when we can only really follow/catalog a few hundred. Compare that to how universe-wide the No More Mutants thing was pushed, how dramatic Mutant Massacre was, or even how terrible something like the (very problematic) Legacy Virus was treated. Sixteen million mutants dead? Whatevs. Man I didn't remember that at all. I'm guessing that's largely because, as you said, it's not actually treated with any kind of gravity in continuity. The most fallout I can think of from that story is Kitty's dad dying on Genosha and whatever Necrosha was. Oh, and Emma Frost shutting Tony Stark the hell down.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 14:17 |
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Edge & Christian posted:Morrison built the backdoor Sublime escape clause into his version of Magneto, but it's also easy to forget that Morrison's New X-Men came a decade after Claremont left the X-Books for the first time. Claremont spent a decade 'redeeming' Magneto, but Claremont's last X-Men stories also featured: I'm not a fan of the way Magneto is portrayed in NXM, but yeah, it's hard to argue (besides a couple extreme actions) that it doesn't make sense in the context of where his character is at that point. It's more that morally murky Magneto is far more interesting than Silver Age villain Magneto so that's the character people tend to default to.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 22:42 |
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The Question IRL posted:I know it was a theory I heard thrown around in the Wizard days of comics. And I think I read it being confirmed in some internet interview in mid 2000's. Ah, the Zaladane school of character relationships.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2019 10:24 |
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BrianWilly posted:And yet everyone seems to be acting like they're back and that this is a resurrection. The narration literally refers to it as resurrection. As far as the not-dead characters are concerned, it's a resurrection. The Scott, Kurt, Jean, etc. who come out of the eggs are the same people they've known for years, minus up to seven days' worth of memories. But they all still died in space.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2019 23:04 |
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Rick posted:Didn't at least one text portion say they've never tried it before? Obviously other excerpts are from later files because they've tried it a bunch at some point. I don't remember if that's said explicitly, but it's clearly the case that this is the first successful use of a hypothetical technology. In the previous issue Xavier was apoplectic over the deaths of the team, which makes sense since it means there's a, say, 45% chance that the cloning concept won't work, or will produce defective clones, or whatever. There's a possibility the entire group isn't dead forever, but only a possibility. Then you have the reuse of the very first panel with the weirdly mincing Xavier, and now that we've gotten the context to it it's basically an expression of pure delight and relief. There's also the ceremony afterwards, and presumably they're not gonna have one of those every single time somebody dies.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2019 23:32 |
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I honestly liked the characterization of Alex being a lovely, "I don't see race" kind of guy. Not that that's what Remender was going for, but hey, whatever. It made for a neat moment in Uncanny, I think, when Kitty and the others are watching the speech and going "that's some bullshit."
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2019 07:12 |
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I really appreciate that during the council vote to "exile" Sabretooth, while most people are agonizing over the decision Sebastian Shaw's just like, "Sure, whatever, I don't care." I'm sure there's still some more revelations to come out of HOXPOX, but I've been ready for this series to be over for a couple of weeks now. All the weird Krakoa stuff is great, but I also want some stories about the characters living on it, and the ones not living on it, and everybody elsewhere. There was a hint of that in the PoX stuff with Nimrod and the Chimeras, but they weren't really further developed past the first issue. The celebration scene in this week's issue was great, but frustrating in how that's basically one of a scant few hints of the stuff in these series so far.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 23:18 |
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BrianWilly posted:I think I liked a lot of this a lot more than a lot of HOXPOX. Not that Krakoa isn't still a weirdo cult nation, but at least we're having a bit of fun with it. Yeah, hopefully that we've gotten the board set up, we can continue seeing a little more of what these characters are getting up to. I enjoyed that they basically reset Vulcan as a character, because the previous version of him was poo poo and basically unusable. Always happy to see Rachel, too.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 23:21 |
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Aphrodite posted:Wolfsbane can turn into multiple wolves. Gah, I was so close to forgetting this
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 15:15 |
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Skwirl posted:Good interview about new Wolverine book Gonna be honest, my reaction to reading that interview was "so, it's a wolverine solo book"
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 01:47 |
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There was a weird reference to "North Valnon" as a country ruled by a kleptocratic family, which is weird, because North Korea has definitely appeared in other books and there are scenes set in both Russia and Taiwan here. Has Marvel been treading lightly around NK recently or something? I'm reading a lot fewer comics than I used to.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 23:18 |
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Edge & Christian posted:A lot of times this is done if they're going to go deep into creating characters for the ruling party. That was the exact storyline I was thinking of re. North Korea, but I guess I had forgotten they didn't use the actual NK for that. Thanks, my bad.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 23:34 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 16:16 |
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Skwirl posted:Just move the war to Afghanistan, someone who was 18 when we first invaded would be in their mid 30s now and we're still sending teenagers over there to die. If you need war time trauma and a sliding timescale our forever war in the middle east is loving perfect. This is the obvious solution, yeah. Iraq's even better. It's not like we're ever going to run out of wars to plop him into. Magneto's history with the Holocaust is a more pressing problem, but he's been de-aged multiple times and magnets something something slow the aging process.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 02:00 |