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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Nessus posted:

Is Jubes still a Dracula? She is sure making a weird face on that cover, as if she had just eaten some festival dumplings or something.

Unless something changes between the end of Hellcat and the start of that, then yes.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Land can draw as many faces, haircuts, and body types as porn provides.

Hell, you're talking about the same Greg Land that drew Sue Storm with multiple haircuts on the same page!

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



He actually rules.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I also hate when comics are fun.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



X-Cutioner's Song was great because the epilogue featured Jubilee taking Xavier rollerblading.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Bendis does go back to that well pretty often (and is far more ubiquitous than PAD was even at his peak output), so it's a bit more noticeable. I can certainly see the complaint, though I rather like Bendis.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Norns posted:

No, but that sounds like something I want to listen to!

I've read Morrison's New Mutants before and love it. I'll check out X-factor.

Morrison's run and the 90s cartoon was really all i had dipped into before this.

Morrison wrote New X-Men. He's talking about New Mutants written by Claremont (then some others) and running concurrently to Uncanny X-Men in the 80s. If you're going chronologically, it won't pick up for awhile.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



rkajdi posted:

Yeah, I only brought it up because a guy I suggested it to got hyper mad after listening that I'd suggest some "SJW bullshit" to him disguised as a comics podcast. It was an eye-opener about him, but I guess half of the guys out there just want to read power fantasies and ignore any subtext. Especially with X-Men, I don't see how people can do this, given how much the Claremont especially pushed the limit as to what was publishable at the time.

It's cool to find out people not to associate with anymore, at least.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



plainswalker75 posted:

Gator fiasco?

Gamergater.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I'm super excited for it but I don't really have anything more to say than that

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I didn't much care for Lemire's Thanos, and dropped it after the first arc.

Anyway, Marvel put out the redacted cover for X-Men Red #1. Wolverine is definitely in there.

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/930104418099433472

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The Phoenix Force thing was just because it would be fun to make Namor 1/5 omnipotent for a bit because why not?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Namor is also nigh-invulnerable when he's blastin'.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Cabbit posted:

So. Astonishing X-Men.

What are the odds that Shadow King actually has Xavier's mind chained up in his little astral parlor?
I'll just say I will be very, very surprised if it's not Shadow King now in Fantomex's body.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Herr Tog posted:

Yea! Me and synch go way back
Synch was dead long before Quentin showed up at a completely different school. :colbert:

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Covok posted:

Don't you remember the one with omega tier powers who can bend reality or energy or some bullshit and could destroy the universe?

I don't think Adam-X, the X-Treme could do that, dude.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



davebo posted:

As someone who loves X-Men specifically because of his first run but never read any of that, would it be worth getting? Or is it just his name selling it and it wasn't actually worth it? How was the art for that stuff?

It's not good at all

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



House of M had two purposes: 1) to remove mutants as their own subculture, because when you do that, it stops being an allegory for real-world subcultures; and 2) to remove "mutant" as an origin since it was lazy. That virtually no major character was actually depowered as a result of HoM makes it clear this was their actual intention. It was never to make there be fewer mutant characters.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Her surrogate mom may have been Asian (I don't recall), but that doesn't matter in the slightest since there's no actual blood relation between the two. Similarly, her DNA is entirely Wolverine who is a Canadian, so neither Hispanic nor Latinx.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Wolverine will be in a bunch of backup stories starting next month.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/20/wolverine-marvel-post-credits-scenes/

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The X-Men Gold Annual was pretty fun, and it was great to see Excalibur back together, though I'm not sure Guggenheim really got their personalities. Brian, in particular, just kind of came off as a doofus. Still, it was better than I would have expected from Guggenheim. There was some weird contradictions, though, with Maggie. Meggan complains that she's already smarter than her, but then she has to ask what a baby and blue are.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Wolverine and the X-Men is uneven. When it's good, it's great. When it's not, it's that circus arc, or stuck in Battle of the Atom. It's definitely not like Thor at all if that's what you're going for.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The circus arc's problem was that it was about twice as long as it needed to be.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I mean, if you're only concerned about Wolverine, then yeah, you're probably not going to get your money's worth buying $4 comics for two page backup nonstories, but the ones they're contained in (or at least the ones I've read) have been good comics on their own.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The Question IRL posted:

The earliest I can remember is in the Claremont/ Jim Lee X-men. Gambit star5s flirting with Rogue by the pool in issue 4. One of the first comics I bought.

Yeah, this is where it started, and it may have been a Jim Lee idea, since by that point, Claremont was barely writing the comic.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Rhyno posted:

Gambit and Rogue are gonna go down in comics history as one of the most well known romances, mostly because of the Animated series.

What about Wolverine and Morph

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



rantmo posted:

What about Governor General Howlett and Hercules?

I don't remember that episode of the X-Men cartoon

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



cant cook creole bream posted:

I'm not that well versed in the xmen stuff and I've had a question for a while now. Who eyactly is Rachel? As far as I can tell, she's sone sort of alternate reality daughter of Jean, who is pretty much the same age. Is that right?
And there was something about them not existing at the same time.

And she wears a lot of spikes for some reason.

Anything else I should know about her?
She's the daughter of Jean and Cyclops from a possible future where the Sentinels have essentially taken over the planet as the ultimate expression of their directive to protect humanity.

She was used as a "hound" which is a mutant used to find other mutants.

When she first came to the current timeline, Jean was thought dead.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



As I recall, she returned to the present when Cable killed Apocalypse and stopped his timeline from ever happening, so rather than popping out of the timestream in the far future, Rachel got stuck for awhile and I think Cable found her?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Skwirl posted:

Kitty went and joined/formed Excalibur because she thought all of the other X-Men were dead. I don't think she was part of other X-teams in a major way until Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, but I could be wrong. Marvel uses a shifting timeline but even ignoring that that's a 15 some odd year gap, that's a lot of other poo poo happening that makes you forget old wounds.

She went to college for a bit and at some point had a bad costume with one of Wolverine's broken bone claws.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Skwirl posted:

Why is the claw metal if the only way she got it was all the metal on Wolverine was ripped away and then he broke a claw?

Also why does she need a claw? She's a loving ninja who can become intangible at will, not the most powerful X-Man but I'd rather fight Gambit or Storm if we're in a closed room.
It must be weird coloring or something, but it was definitely supposed to be a bone claw he broke off.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



He's a goddamned legend is what he is.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I had to check on that since he's fairly prolific and has worked for Marvel a lot and yeah, the only X-book he's written is Spider-Man and X-Factor in 1994 (which I've never even heard of until now).

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



It was a knife fight in the comics.

Which belongs in the badass thread.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I really enjoyed it, too. Having Jean basically rebuke Xavier's dream as too centrist was an interesting way to go, but it made sense.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



cant cook creole bream posted:

Who is that villain at The end of red?

Cassandra Nova. Professor X's twin that he killed in the womb. She first appeared in Morrison's New X-Men.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Jay Edidin (of Jay and Miles) and his mom cosplayed Rule-63 Cable and Hope. It owns.

https://twitter.com/RaeBeta/status/971394113059860481

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Hell yeah to bringing back X-Man

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



It seems fine to me, but I regularly listen to podcasts with WAY worse audio.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Here's your Uncanny X-Men relaunch

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/979342416732917760

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