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Glad I chose Jean Grey over Generation X. With others on Blue being the better team boook. Was that the first time Hope met Jean? Obviously when Hope first appeared Jean was long dead, but not since the most recent X-force as young Jean was around then. And of Course Illyana's brain is way to hosed up for anyone want to go poking around in, even briefly.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 02:44 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 08:55 |
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Aarons Quentin is always the definitive for me. That first volume of Wolverine and the X-men is just so fantastic. Its too bad the second really screws the pooch.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 17:33 |
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S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:Yeah, that carnival Arc came out of no where, and was aggressively bad. Which is unfortunate because the rest of the run is really good. I believe even the phoenix 5 event gave us crab whales! There's a weird thing with X-men and circuses, but then half of Marvel's silver age characters were all carnies, so who knows? I did like Kitty being really confused on why she was dressed like a cowgirl for most of the issue though.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 21:15 |
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Kalli posted:I think like Blob's first appearance was as part of a carnival of crime right? Yep, that was exactly what I was thinking of. I forgot about the Obnoxio issue though.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 00:10 |
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I have head cannon ages for a lot of people, like Scott, when he went nuts, was 38. Kitty is 25, the New Mutants are for a most part between 21-24, though Sam was 26. School kids were all 16-17, as are the time displaced X-men. It is weird when the comics explicitly say someone age, like in the most recently Scarlet Witch series, she was said to be 26.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2017 16:21 |
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Naw, Peak Claremont is during Asgardian Wars when Amora captured Illyana, and uh...stuff happens. http://imgur.com/a/rNSMO I don't think this is where Magik became my favorite of the New Mutants, but I hope its not.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 02:54 |
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Skwirl posted:Since her first trip to Limbo there's no important part of Illyana's history that isn't, at best, problematic. Yea I tend to focus more on current, slightly crazy lady with a big sword, Magik. I do miss her bangs though. Teen Storm is also what introduced Gambit. Though he wasn't skeevy to her, just noticed her natural ability at theeving. Even thought Gambit is like the bar on 5th street, they don't ask for ID, and nether does Gambit, ya hear?
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 06:19 |
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Wanderer posted:IIRC, she was meant to be a sheltered 18 when she went to Xavier for help. Which I find weird because the first time I know I saw her was when Wolverine and the then depowered Ms Marvel go to the Pentegon and run into her She sure as hell looks older than 18. My guess is she just got younger as she drained more peoples abilities. Or the artists wanted another hot redhead on the team, and every time she was drawn she grew younger until we got the Jim Lee Bombshell Rogue that we all know and love. Gambit is more bearable in his early appearances, but he's still the herald of the 90s.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 17:09 |
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, reading her original stuff she's definitely older than say, Colossus. Early 20's at the youngest when she first starts hanging with the X-Men. She certainly de-ages over her appearances though. Excalibur would be great to see again. Though I don't know if they could capture the pure craziness of the Claremont series. Though I'd hope they'd be smart enough not to try to replicate that, and let it be its own thing.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 04:50 |
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Wonder Man has been inside if my 3 favorite Marvel ladies; Rogue, Carol and Wanda. I am sensing a pattern here.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2017 17:49 |
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Sinister is literally made of continuity holes.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 20:28 |
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Holy poo poo people were not kidding about the art in Blue.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2017 12:35 |
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Speaking of Queer Subtext, Rachael being totally into Nightcrawler, especially when Kitty is currently available. WTf! Unless they're preparing for Kitty/Illyana to become a textual thing and not a subtext. Dark Phoenix gets a lot of love, but Brood Saga is also excellent, and also Claremont is why Carol Danvers is my favorite Super Hero. There issue featuring Her and Wolverine fighting Rogue was one of the first X-men comics I read as a kid.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 12:39 |
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He also constantly refuses to take any credit for xmen evolution and seems to not actually want to discuss the show. It's weird. Their Claremont interview is pretty fantastic though.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 13:33 |
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I have zero problem with Emma going nuts and being evil, because the one good thing in her life is gone, and she sees a chance to recapture it. It's totally a bad guy thing to do. I loved Heroic Emma a lot, but I am cool with this.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2017 01:30 |
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It feel like the natural character progression based on Emma's actions in Death of X, and it's not unlike Emma in her early apperances as head of the Mass Academy. I mean wasn't she one of the multiple blond women who try to seduce Kitty?. I also want to point out that when I say "I am cool with this", that means "I accept this" not "I like this".
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 00:47 |
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Wasn't Emma controlled Scott getting people killed and escalating everything way beyond what was necessary? I might be misremembering the series, but I don't have any desire to revisit it. I'd rather just admit I am wrong that slog through that bland mini again.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 01:17 |
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Aphrodite posted:Emma never controlled Cyclops. She made a psychic projection of him after he died in Death of X to fulfill his plan to destroy the cloud. Alchemy died, but he knew that going in and it was a sacrifice play. The fake projection Cyclops also died there, she let Black Bolt kill "him" to build more of a conflict between the two sides. Yea, that's what I meant, and for some reason I thought Fake Scott gathered a huge group of jobber X-men and they were killed. Just this one trick will free mutants forever, Inhumans hate it!
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 01:42 |
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Rochallor posted:That was New Mutants 63, the very first comic book I ever read. I picked it out of my uncle's collection because there was a girl in a spacesuit with a sweet looking laser gun on the cover. When J&M covered it, they pointed out that although the story apparently actually happened, it was told as like a memory within a dream within a flashback for some dumb reason. Wasn't it Illyana who got sucked into the dream/vision thing and she was confused why Kitty and the rest didn't recognize her?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 17:03 |
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Roth posted:Rachel and Kurt bothers me with how incredibly out of nowhere it is. I know these our superhero stories focused on action and aimed primarily at teenage boys, but I really wish we could get some romances that are actually developed decently, and not just: "Oh, I guess this is a thing now" Yea I can accept Kitty and Pietor getting back together, as there is history there, but Rachael and Kurt feels like they looked at one of those "who hosed who in the marvel universe" and realizing they're the only ones who haven't banged out of the X-men. I don't think I've ever once seen Rachael have any interest in anyone in all the X-men I've read.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 03:51 |
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Skwirl posted:Read Claremont Excalibur, Rachel and Kitty were as much a thing as you could get away with in 1989. Well yea, I've listened to Jay and Miles from the start. Claremont straight up said that Kitty and Rachael are the ultimate pair, though I'm with them reading it Kitty and Illyana. But that's probably because I just really like Illyana.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 07:25 |
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Also when it looked liked they were all going to become Brood, Kitty tries to sleep with Pietor and he's all "Hell no, you are still way too young". Because Colossus is just good of a dude.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 23:28 |
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Open Marriage Night posted:Then he falls for a chick on Battleworld and breaks Kitty's heart. Yep, and where we got the Phrase "That's just my Sunday Punch!" from. It a good thing the best hospital in the galaxy is right there! Though we have to know if Gabby is hostile to Laura.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2017 11:34 |
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Ah, it was the very first time I even encountered it, and never heard it outside of Juggernaut related stuff, so I assumed it was something from him.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 16:49 |
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Ponsonby Britt posted:Logan is so old, he was around during the 1920s. He was probably the boxer who coined it during a fight on Yancy Street that the Thing (or his great-grandfather, depending on sliding timeline) saw and copied for the Twinkies ad. Or Cable. time travel always involves those two assholes.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 03:02 |
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I was really happy to see Illyana back in this Gold, and then she gets punked instantly.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2017 21:49 |
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I mean, Gambit is 100% made of terrible, so that makes sense. Iz not smoking, Cher, Gambit vapes.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2017 16:18 |
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Sentinel Red posted:Terrible Eye or GTFO I'm with Her!
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2017 13:09 |
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Okay so I read the Wolverine Generations book, and that was a perfect Wolverine story. Totally didn't tear up at the very end, nope nope nope, not at all.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 23:27 |
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Diet Poison posted:I know right? Best Generations one so far. I did literally just finish the Hawkeyes one, which was pretty good too, but not on the same level. Only a weiner would tear up though. I mean, there was a lot of dust in those pages and that dust got into my eyes, and tearing up is a totally acceptable reaction to dusty eyes. Similarly, when I just rewatched Logan, during the end when she calls him "daddy" as he dies, some tear gas from a nearby riot came through my balcony screen door and affected me for several minutes. I've only also bought the Hawkeye one. I think i'll track down the Thor one and get the Ms Marvel one once it comes out. I was wary of the whole thing from the start, as I saw it as having an "event" so quickly after Secret Empire, but just from its unfair to suggest that it's anything like that.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 17:46 |
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Yea that's literally the only thing I thought Gambit was actually good, rather than just bareable.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 11:35 |
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Yea, OML is fuuuuuucked up. I admit I stopped reading the solo during the last Ronin arc because that poo poo just bored me, but a big part of what I did read was him trying to deal with the PSTD and survivors guilt over what happened to him.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 18:07 |
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If your only experience with Beast is from the 90s cartoon i could understand why he'd be a favorite.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 14:02 |
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davebo posted:Well you guys seem like the ones to ask about this. I don't follow comics anymore except to sometimes read a friends copy of Old Man Logan. Although I did read the post-death thing where Mystique was trying to get his preserved corpse before Mr. Sinister or something. I'm just wondering where his body is nowadays? Does anyone mention it? Is it sitting in some library at the X-mansion? I like to think Deadpool keeps it in his spare bedroom.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 18:59 |
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pubic works project posted:IMO the easiest thing to do is just de-age OML This reminds me that i'm hoping Return of Jean Grey is young Jean gaining the memories and power of old Jean.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2017 03:40 |
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I like how Claremont says its time for the consentual Jean and Logan romance.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 03:01 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:One day I will figure out what people see in that pairing. Yea, I always felt Logans obsession with Jean was super creepy and not cool. Like even loving Hawkeye got over Wanda eventually, but its seen as some tragic romance, even thought its really clear Jean wants to be with Scott and that's that. They at least let Scott have other relationships, let Jean have some. Maybe she can date like, I dunno, Sam Wilson or Hercules. And yea, I'm down with that Jean outfit. It's retro enough to let me forgive some of the sillyness. Though on the other hand, I have zero interest in Jean returning, i'm enjoying young Jean too much.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 03:33 |
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bobkatt013 posted:I hope this does not mean all new wolverine is getting cancelled That would be a literal crime.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 04:59 |
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Rhyno posted:X-Men Red will be Old Jean, Young Jean, Rachael Summers, Hope Summers, Wolfsbane, Siryn and uhhhhhhh, whichever other X-Men have red hair. For some reason Squirrel Girl is on the team, and so is Elsa Bloodstone and Black Widow.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 12:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 08:55 |
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Laura's on the team? Sold. Are any of the current X books ending?
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2017 19:22 |