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lisp was more than lisp machines, and was the one place one actually got high-level language features for like a solid 40 years of computing, it was almost by necessity influential as a feature at a time leaked into other systems also clojure is cool and good, whereas unfortunately cl is not going to start making it *now*, so the os effort is pretty pointless
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 11:29 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 00:30 |
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our dear forum name is pretty apropos here, as lol at writing an os in c/c++, setting oneself up for failure right there still no success at doing something saner, but the security circus does take its toll over time
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 15:38 |
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eschaton posted:people who talk about Lisp as a high level or functional language have never dealt with ldb or loop the discussion was about lisps impact, it was defined in 1958, and most of what know counts as high-level or functional owes a great debt to it, it was the best example of high-level functional programming for many many years its lack of purity was, additionally, probably a happy accident, since pure functional programming remains even less relevant than lisp
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 11:02 |
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but an inspiration to retarded dwarfs everywhere!
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 11:40 |
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must note again that that suggestion is in the original '58 paper overall quite safe to dismiss people who complain loudly about the parenthesis as bikeshedders, if nothing else because most lisps have far more serious issues than syntactic details (possibly excepting clojure, i will admit that i don't know it well enough, but everyitng i have ever seen of it has seemed fantastically reasonable) Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Apr 16, 2017 |
# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 14:08 |
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the big question at this moment is whether this is the bad programmers version of the pl thread, or whether we are seriously talking about lisp ityool 2017
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 15:50 |
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hickey and armstrong over eich and van rossum every day of the weak anyway
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 17:58 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 00:30 |
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yeah, whenever this stuff comes up it turns out there are lisp system lurking around in a lot of places. it certainly isn't hugely relevant, but emacs is still unlikely to be in the top 10 of actually relevant lisp software (depending, granted, on what dubious way of judging relevance one chooses)
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2017 14:37 |