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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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Actually, I think Sojiro leaves early the days you invite Kawakami over.

And why does everyone seem so... weirded out? It's not like Maaku invited Kawakami over to... *ahem* 'handle a broom', so to say.

Junpei fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 15, 2017

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Junpei
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Firstly, I apologize for the spoilers, which have been excised.

Secondly, this is one of my favorite links in the game, both gameplay-wise and story-wise. I may have been a bit hung-ho because of prior knowledge of all the perks as well as how it unfolds. So I wasn't actually defending something like this happening in real life, I meant it more as a "Don't worry, it gets better" kind of thing.

Junpei
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Small little link between both breakdowns: Kamoshida says something along the lines of "I have committed acts unbecoming of a teacher", and Madarame says the same thing, just with "teacher" replaced by "artist".

Junpei
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Fun fact: The "Phantom Theives vs. Burglary Ring" quest is the focus of the Day Breakers OVA we got.

Junpei
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it's a game about punching evil dudes in the face to make them stop being evil

it's not hard

Junpei
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that was just a joke dude, chill

Junpei
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(Post complimenting Artix on being so thorough in his Let's Playing)

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GhostStalker posted:

(blaming Stupei for starting the confusion and no one picking up on ChaosArgate making fun of him for it)

(Apologizing for starting this trend and fixing it by calling him Arist)

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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Makoto isn't my favorite character from this game, but she's up there.

Junpei
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Actually A2 is Kira Buckland. Cherami Leigh is also Mae from Fire Emblem Echoes.

Junpei
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Oh. Derp, sorry, got my sexy female androids mixed up.

Junpei
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The thing is, Makoto doesn't learn THE BEST healing spells. But really, it's a case of personally preference.

Edit: Sorry, removed.

Junpei fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Sep 21, 2017

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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Of note: The fake Phantom Thieves request was the focus of the Day Breakers OVA we got a while back.

And the names of the siblings are a reference to another SMT game: Devil Survivor's manga adaptation named the hero Kazuya, and a plot-critical character is the PC's cousin, Naoya (the name of Makigami's brother, revealed in Day Breakers). Although there, the douchey one is Naoya, not Kazuya.

Junpei
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Man, gently caress the Takases.

Junpei
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Is nobody going to notice that Medjed is one massive Ghost In The Shell reference?

Junpei
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I've had this crackpot theory that the Desert Bandit is supposed to be Cognitive Sojiro, but that's probably wrong. Certainly an interesting idea, at least.

Junpei
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I'm gonna quote/paraphrase something someone said in the Bravely Default thread, which has a similar situation to the Ann/Yusuke problem mentioned here:

quote:

As for the nude modeling scene that keeps getting called out, THAT one stems from cultural differences affecting what is or isn't acceptable for humor, especially on the sexual front- This is the same Japan that, in the new Dragonball series, had Master Roshi win a fight through implying the intent of sexual assault against a female opponent and played it entirely for laughs. This year. It isn't tonal dissonance- it was intended to be entirely humorous, with Ann's distressed reaction being part of the 'joke.' Sexual humor with unwilling victims is something that seems to have not picked up the same stigma in Japan it has in a lot of the western world over the last ten years, although I don't know nearly enough about Japanese culture to read anything into it. It's more a problem in localization, and one that probably wasn't quite as obviously problematic in 2016 as it is now.

Oh, and I'd like to clarify two things about these scenes:

1. In the anime driving cutscene, only Ryuji and Maaku were actually staring at Ann's boobs. Yusuke was looking at the see-through-via-sweat back of Makoto's shirt.

2. I actually know a friend, IRL, who, when confronted with even a mildly "homo" situation, will act basically like Yosuke. Call it demeaning or homophobic all you want, but it isn't at least unrealistic.

Junpei
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GunnerJ posted:

Especially if it's a bunch of adults making these scenes for the purpose of titillating teenagers.

...well, they can't hire bloody teenagers to animate this!

And why is everyone treating this beach scene as inherently new to anime? A small beach chapter with some mild fanservice has been around for a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG while.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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I like this game, but I want Persona 6 to be Even Better

Junpei
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this game is good

i think it's the best persona game to date

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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Well, he's annoying as poo poo, pesters Maaku constantly, refuses to go away no matter how much Maaku makes it clear he doesn't want him there, and has spent the past several months obsessing over a website he created ostensibly for us, but which he has explicitly stated he is hoping to use to get famous and pick up girls. He also, as demonstrated in the previous update, is incapable of talking to girls without his mind immediately jumping to "does she do porn?"

There's a line between "awkward but sympathetic" and "jesus christ get away from me you creep" and Mishima crossed it a long time ago. I don't get why anyone thinks we should have any sympathy for him.

Well, Mishima is sort of assumed to have been the male volleyball team member Kamoshida beat on the most, not to mention being made his personal assistant of sorts, given that Kamoshida asked him to doxx Maaku on his criminal record, and Kamoshida's abuse has been going on for a while.

Assuming Mishima joined the volleyball team at the beginning of his first year, Kamoshida's abuse has to have been going on for a year and a half, roughly. That's going to do serious damage to anyone's self esteem.

And, to be fair, Sean Chiplock does a bang-up job as Mishima (although that may just be because I loved his work as Revali in Breath of the Wild and Rean Schwarzer in Trails of Cold Steel.).

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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Junpei Attempt #1

Futaba clearly hasn't shaken off her last bits of social anxiety, and I think that Joker could be the last piece of the puzzle to help her heal.

Plus, he's clearly one of the only people who can match pop culture references with her.

Junpei
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Arist posted:

I had a rule to myself about not posting stuff from the anime or the dancing spin-off (yes that exists) because of nebulous floating spoilers, but I think it might be fine to post this at least now that we've gotten Haru and holy loving poo poo:



I'm not familiar with...

...Yakuza?

So I could use an explanation.

Junpei
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Funky Valentine posted:

Naoya-Kazuya, oh it's a reference to the Persona 1 manga.

I thought they were referencing Devil Survivor 1?

Junpei
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*Eats popcorn, reads reactions, laughs*

Ah, the perks of knowing what's going to happen.

Junpei
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Alto from the 3DS strategy RPG Stella Glow as well.

Junpei
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It wasn't that hard for me to figure out Morgana's codename.

Morgana.

Morgana.

Mona.

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TheDavies posted:

Well, she is definitely doing her part to correctly embody Milady de Winter.

Have not read original Three Musketeers, plz explain

I thought Winter was just this femme fatale sexy spy lady who wanted to steal some jewels

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Iamgoofball posted:

Unfortunately, he's still the director on Persona Q2, and the recent trailer for that confirmed that they're throwing in all 3 casts at once.

He's still got one last game to stuff homophobic and sexist garbage into.

Two, technically, if you count Project Re:Fantasy.

Junpei
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MonsterEnvy posted:

Fun fact Shido's English voice actor is also the current English voice actor for Char.

I will admit, Keith Silverstein (said English voice actor) manages to really SELL Shido later.

Oh, and there's actually a little pun with Shido and Toranosuke- The character for the "Shi" in "Shido" is for "Lion", and the character for "Tora" in "Toranosuke" is for "Tiger", which adds some contrast between the two in the Japanese version.

Junpei
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Some cut lines, IN ENGLISH from a scene in Sae's Palace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyAUgiwd0po

Junpei
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Can I just add that Akechi's "Black Knight" outfit (as I call it) is loving badass?

Junpei
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Y'all seem to be conflating "sympathetic" and "redeemable".

I feel bad for Akechi, he really was dealt a lovely hand.

And this moment actually hit me pretty hard.

But I don't think he deserved redemption. This sacrifice was, ultimately, just him entrusting his goal of "taking down Shido" to the PTs.

Junpei
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Okay, moving this away from "this plot is bad and the writers are bad", how does Akechi KNOW Shido is his father? Did he sneak some skin or saliva sample while he wasn't looking for a DNA test? Does he remember what he looked like from when he was a child? Did his mother tell him what his dad looked like before she died?

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kw0134 posted:

Part of her deal is that all the other girls (especially Yukiko) are prettier/more popular/etc., which is to say more classically feminine. (There's a reason the P4A subtitle for Chie is "Carnivore Who's Discarded Womanhood".) That's sort of diluted by her other issues like being generally adrift in life, though.

I thought her P4A subtitle was "Spunky Dragon With Deadly Legs"?

Junpei
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Morgana would just sound like a cat to the audience.

So, minor bit of "Culture explanation" about the Daruma doll thingy:

In Japan, Daruma dolls are used for when you make a promise or have a goal. You paint in one eye of the doll when you declare what you're going to do, and then you paint the other when you finish your goal or plan.

In the whole Palace, the minor treasure have been from one-eyed Daruma dolls-all of Shido's unfulfilled promises of good for the country

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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I finally found that image I was looking for about what most of you seem to think of Akechi!

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This is where everything... clicked for me. The encouraging words from the Confidants you've maxed. The lyrical version of Life Will Change. It all felt right.

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Alkydere posted:

All I have to add to this conversation is the fact that Akechi's dad's head is a cueball. And now I have this stupid idea of an alternate universe Akechi being unable to admit his hairline is rapidly receding and those beautiful golden locks starting to fall out when he reaches his mid 20's which leads to his hair style becoming slowly more and more absurd with each episode of his detective show. Shido's last revenge from beyond the grave will be the male-pattern baldness he passed down to his son.

I always thought Shido was either like, 50, old enough for baldness to not be unrare, or he shaved his head intentionally.

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Oxxidation posted:

WHEN THE HOPE
OF
NEW
BE-GIN-NINGS BURNS OUR FEEEET

NOW WE NEED IT

A HEART BEAT FOR A DEMON

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