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pixaal posted:PS4 was also comparable to a fairly high end gaming desktop when it came out in 2013. Only in vram.
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It’s like if Intel actually released those Tejas processors. Except those were only 150W!
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ItBreathes posted:X% better or worse at gaming is a fallacious way of looking at it. Performance is a function of CPU, GPU, and resolution, changing any variable will result in different performance. Intel can get a nice lead at lower resolutions with a beefy GPU, but that doesn't translate to anything else. With a 60hz monitor there's no difference as both a readily capable of pushing that, and if your GPU isn't capable of pushing 90+ fps in whatever resolution you set it will never matter either, you've got to be targeting >90-100 fps and have the other hardware to back that up for there to be any difference. CPU often improves 1% frame time which is pretty important for keeping above that 60 fps 100% of the time in a competitive game.
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May 11, 2019 05:11
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The parts picker thread recommended the MSI Tomahawk B450 a lot, its only $110ish and it seems to be running well for my Ryzen 5 2600x
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May 18, 2019 16:07
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iospace posted:It's actually a good price too now that I check. I may not overclock it (I might but it's not something that's a deal breaker), and I'm really not interested in having c00l lighting effects (My case doesn't have a window on it). You should at least tick the “use more power/cooling” things in ryzen control to “overclock” it for free. (Assuming you put a better heat sink on)
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May 18, 2019 22:06
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Conartist posted:To get dynamic overclocking one method is to adjust the P-states in the bios. It's buried in the advanced tab under the Zen Common Options page. Speaking of dynamic overlcoking... is the max you can do to let an X processor overclock by itself to enable precision boost overdrive and set PPT, TDC and EDC to max?
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May 22, 2019 05:33
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Broose posted:I am just so confused about the such minor differences between the 3700x and 3800x. I also wonder if that is an all core boost number, but probably not since I would assume they would specify a larger number if it could reach it even if it was only a single core. Now to wait and find out the overclocking potential of each. That has to be binning.
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May 27, 2019 04:37
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Alpha Mayo posted:Maybe laptops are too risky because ARM (Apple A12X and upcoming Snapdragon 8cx) is starting to get in that performance territory already. Those are 5W or less parts, laptop CPUs will always be able to do more with 15W or whatever parts are typically in bigger laptops.
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Jun 6, 2019 19:00
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iospace posted:Laptop CPUs also are very common in the embedded market, for what it's worth. While AMD and (almost certainly) Intel provide embedded specific packages, sometimes it's easier just to grab a laptop CPU out of the bin and slap it on a SBC and call it a day. Yeah the embedded parts are more limited because there are commitments on a longer product lifespan. (ie, it'll be available for 10 years or whatever)
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Jun 6, 2019 20:49
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Kazinsal posted:CPU glows with the heat of molten aluminum, still runs Cinebench You didn’t see molten aluminum because there isn’t molten aluminum!
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Jun 12, 2019 17:10
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Klyith posted:Most of the people who crash are in rented trucks, so they're also focused on traffic and managing the truck. They have no experience with needing to look for height warnings. Also probably didn't actually know for certain the height of the truck. You'd think it'd be on a giant sticker or something on the dash but not in the moving truck I rented once!
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Let me guess: you were caught up and then unmarked the thread by accident. You opened the thread and remarked it. Then when you came back later to read the thread you forgot about that and replied to something on the most recent page you were reading.
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gradenko_2000 posted:bent CPU pins are more repairable than bent socket pins Any tips on actually repairing am4 bent pins? The rows are too tight for for a credit card or business card and thats about where I gave up before doing any more damage.
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Oct 6, 2020 15:31
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Klyith posted:bending a CPU pin is an easy accident for even a careful person to make. I don't know what kind of ape manages to bend the LGA pins. the best part is when doing it because you're RMA'ing a motherboard. I was nervous about using the exacto knife I had, I think that dental pick set is exactly what is needed!
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Oct 6, 2020 15:43
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Cojawfee posted:Yeah, 13 years ago, I was fixing CPUs with a credit card. I did this waaay back in the day with a socket 754 athlon64 (i think). I put a credit card up next to the ryzen 5 and though "wow i didn't remember credit cards being so thick"
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Oct 6, 2020 19:31
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Rabid Snake posted:drat I'm not liking the prices Whenever Intel or AMD gets unambiguously ahead of the other in all metrics they crank that price up.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:27
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MikeC posted:Expect 0 price drops. These prices are specifically designed to keep 3000 series relevant. That Aussie SI was right on the money. The question is relevant for how long.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:53
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mdxi posted:So long as you're not using an A520 motherboard, you can use PPT limiting to set the wattage to anything you want. I run my 3900Xs at 75W. You're not really living unless you set it to 1000W and let PBO take the wheel.
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Oct 8, 2020 18:01
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Maybe Intel will be forced to drop prices making the 10700/10900 the best bang for the buck gaming performance? Intel is more likely to be angry at being the “budget option” and to raise prices.
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Oct 8, 2020 18:19
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Number19 posted:where AMD can argue "single thread crown" while Intel makes the "best multithread performance for the dollar" arguments. Zen 2 is going to hold that still, no?
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Oct 8, 2020 18:28
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sean10mm posted:3600 CL16 is the best but the difference is very minor. A 3600 cl16 kit can probably run at 3200 cl14, no? I guess the fabric clk doesn't actually matter if theres only one CCX right? Is Zen 3 still limited to 1800 mhz fclk?
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ijyt posted:e: ty for the ram advice all! Honestly I would just try to figure out what the actual memory modules are based on googling the UPC. Then punch that into to the ryzen dram calculator and see what it thinks the safe settings for that die/mobo/cpu combo are. Like if the 3200 cl14 ram is Samsung B die and 3600 is Micron E then the Bdie probably is a better performer after you painstakingly OC the module. If you are not going to painstakingly OC the module just get the higher clock speed and use the XMP profile.
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Oct 8, 2020 20:56
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GunnerJ posted:Looking forward to the crystal clarity of AMD marketing a product called "R7 5700X" at the same time that its graphics division is selling a product called "RX 5700XT" Just wait until they release a R7 5700XT!
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The Gadfly posted:I know that threadripper is a thing, but it would be nice if zen 3 compatible mobos supported more than 3 NVMe drives (most only have 2), rather than having loving 6 sata ports The physical footprint on the board is a bit of a problem for a third, yes? Why not get a pcie adapter card? They’re like $20.
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The Gadfly posted:I looked into this thanks to your suggestion. It looks like something similar to an Asus Hyper card is better for this application. It converts the 16 PCIe lanes of a spare GPU slot into 4 m.2 slots, allowing you to have an extra 4 NVMe drives. These can be run in raid configuration or separately. The reason why I think the cheaper option of a $20 PCIe adapter isn't as feasible is because the flexible PCIe gen 4 lanes afforded by chipsets are already usually in use by most mobos, and I don't think it's possible to plug those cards into a gpu slot. I think you’d have to carefully look at the board info at that point. My x570 msi gaming plus for example appears to have a pcie 4.0 4x slot off the chipset but I could absolutely be misreading the pcie bandwidth table. M2 slot one on the board is pcie 4 4x from cpu and M2 slot two is pcie 3 4x from the chipset. Is it more common for the slots to use the gen 4 4x for that? I have no idea about B550 though. hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Oct 9, 2020 |
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It basically looks like that asus hyper is useless unless you have a trx40 board. https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1037507/ It could be very helpful for rendering workstations I guess?
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Gwaihir posted:MSI's Meg Unify has 3 M.2 slots right now at least. The PCH only really has 4 lanes to the CPU so those cards can't both be full speed, right?
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Last I saw DDR5 DIMMs won't be generally available until Q3 2021 at the earliest anyway so you're not missing much if desktop board support doesn't show up until 1H 2022.
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Makes sense especially with PCIe 3 drives, I guess I sort of implicitly thought if you had PCIE 3 kicking around it would all be PCIE 3 and thats clearly not the case.
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Taima posted:So... what is the normal gameplan for scoring new CPUs right away? Is it like Ampere was? Do all of the normal retailers like Best Buy sell CPUs? If you're setting money on fire put the cash into a really cool looking water cooled display case. If you actually have a use for 3090s in SLI why aren't you waiting for info on the threadrippers? Surely you'd need all those cpu pcie lanes to shovel whatever you're rendering from your pcie 4 ssds to the GPUs. Theres only 24 CPU lanes on an zen 2 ryzen vs 64 on the zen 2 threadrippers. Zen 3 probably will be the same.
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shrike82 posted:You’re not going to find a consumer board that can fit two 3090s without having one standing off via riser anyway so kinda irrelevant prereq Some of the strx40 boards look like they might barely fit. They're 3 slots, not 3 slots and change (lol) right?
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mdxi posted:Did a bit of research on CPU coolers, since I'll need them for the first time in a long while. Since we're in the AMD thread sticking with stock for less than 120mm HSF is actually a reasonable suggestion, depending on which CPU you're getting. The market for under 120mm HSFs is going to be to replace the trash intel stock coolers and to be quiet. I'd check out cryorig as well but I think that noctua is probably the best you can do without getting a new case. When people are talking about getting "free" overclocking with a "cheap" HSF they're talking about tower coolers that need 160mm or more of height clearance.
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Suburban Dad posted:I find it interesting that my local microcenter doesn't even have the 3600 (or 3600x) on the website anymore, which has changed as of a few days ago. Stock of them must have cleared out fairly quick after the announcement. The twin cities one still 2 has 2 3600s left. Lots of 3600Xs that can be yours for the low low price of $209.99! And why not spend $20 more for a 3600XT which is a (3600, 3600X, 3600XT pricing differences have always seemed insane)
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movax posted:I had to look up what a stan was. Its 20 years old 
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B550 isn’t even that much cheaper.
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Considering the fan almost never runs anyways it really doesn't matter.
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sean10mm posted:X570 really only matters if you need to simultaneously connect a bunch of PCIe cards, M.2 drives and SATA devices simultaneously because it has more PCIe lanes. x570 has an advantage with only 2 m2 drives though, no? I don't disagree its not worth much of a premium but I bought an x570 board because it really was barely more expensive than a b550 one.
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Basically the choice between X570 and B550 is which version of PCIE lanes the interconnect between the chipset and the CPU is. For B550 thats pcie v3, for X570 its pcie v4 which allows pcie v4. That could absolutely be a bottleneck for loading a bunch of stuff off the chipset's m2 slot into (V)RAM as happens when starting a game. That bottle neck is going to be pretty slight but if you can get rid of it for the next couple of years (when even faster drives are available) for like $10 then why not. The difference grows the more stuff you have hanging off the chipset pcie lanes and USB3 ports but odds are you're just talking about a second m2 drive.
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Generic Monk posted:does x570 support 2 m.2 drives without any fuckery like PCI slots or SATA ports getting disabled? asking for my lil asrock board that could Yes, that'd be the reason to get a x570 board.
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Taima posted:So what's the most effective thermal paste solution for cooling something like a 5950x via an air cooler (a chromax black)? Just look at the giant tom's hardware chart https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-comparison,5108-9.html You probably want thermal grizzly kryonaut and don't want to bother with the metallic paste.
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