VealCutlet posted:

If worried about cash and you're going to OC get the 1600 non x

Ardlen posted:

1600 non x comes with a heat sink, and the 1600X does not. That'll increase the price difference.

Scarecow posted:

yes lets just ignore that SMT is not working for AMD cpus in D2 atm

repiv posted:

nerox posted:

No idea how many times I have seen this and I just now noticed that syringe says Hellman's on it.

SoftNum posted:

the proper technique:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCVahyh3Dk

NewFatMike posted:

Chromebooks are good though? Starting in the next few weeks, all recent and upcoming models will have full Google Play Store app support, so it makes sense.

Chromebooks are also distributed in a ton of corporate and educational environments. There's a big and expanding market for them.

KodiakRS posted:

Just pre-ordered a 2700x system because the Phenom II I'm running at the moment is slower than molasses. Of course the Phenom II is still faster than my, once again, dead skylake.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

The last third is google, desperately, in the hopes that someone else has already done the legwork and documented it in detail, only to find a post from 2006 that details your exact problem right down to reproducability, and then has "edit: nm i fixed it" appended to the bottom, with no further posts from that account thereafter.

ufarn posted:

Any last-minute advice before I attempt to fix a few crooked pins on my Ryzen CPU? I’ll be very careful, but more than that is needed when a 100% success rate is required.

I’ll be wiggling a toiny flat iFixit screwdriver to bring them upright, then I’ll use a rolled out boxcutter to align them properly. Still don’t know whether, when nor how they might break though.

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Thanks for the help guys!

Buying the 3600

What price should be looking for, for a motherboard? Seeing that most stuff is either too expensive or out of stock.

GunnerJ posted:

Yeah I'm in the same boat, the last computer I built before my current was an AM3 socket MB with a Phenom II X4 965 from 2011, it was still running games "okay" as of November last year but was a bit long in the tooth. Hearing all this deep lore about the AMD dark ages is always very interesting to me... I went from AM3 to AM4 like the whole era of AMD ruin never happened.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

My brudda. :hi5:

I am eventually gonna get the thing mounted and framed.

GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:

CPU serial number being extended as a unique identifier via javascript to any website you visit would have been way worse than anything we have to deal with today. This was a "feature" for e-com that Intel and Microsoft were going to roll out, so if it had gained traction, it wouldn't be something you could gently caress with like you can with everything else used for browser fingerprinting.

Edit: also, why do you think so much effort is put into tracking technology? If sites could just call navigator.GetIntelFreedomID then there would be no need for any abstract fingerprinting methods to exist.

gradenko_2000 posted:

wasn't there already some cross-over capability from DDR2 and DDR3 in the AM3 era? I think it's only gotten better/easier than that over time

I guess the big question is whether DDR5 is going to be so expensive that it keeps people away from upgrading right away and AMD (and Intel, for that matter) feel like there's still some value to be had in selling chips to people who want to stay with their current boards

gradenko_2000 posted:

A couple of parts came through this week and I put together a janky-rear end, second-hand AMD build: FX-4300, RX 560, 16 GB of DDR3 RAM, and a 240 GB SSD.

Total cost is just a hair over 200 USD.

I don't really know what I'm going to do with this, except I knew I wanted a known working AM3+ motherboard, because those seem much harder to find than the FX CPUs themselves.

If the bug bites me I might snap up an FX-8300 down the line.

Klyith posted:

FYI the $100 less Aorus Elite probably does everything you need. 3 NVMe slots is kinda extra, if you really need the third at some point there are always PCIe->NVMe adapter cards which are cheap.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Son of a bitch.

Someone take the silkscreen idea, and upscale it into a photographic mosaic portrait of Andy Warhol, then send it to AMD marketing so they don't gently caress that up.

edit: Knowing AMD they'll dilute the idea by ham-fistedly bludgeoning something out resembling Warhol and Basquiat's later collaboration.

edit edit: poo poo, I can see the visual marketing now:

You start with a completely blank canvas, top-down. Quiet whirring noises of machinery are heard as a silkscreen frame slowly moves obscures your view of the canvas, and is lowered. You hear a frankly disgusting splortch of a glop of paint, and then photocopier noises as a squeegee passes through. When the entire apparatus lifts up, you see a die shot. It's one core. That one core could be K6, K6-III, K7, could even be a single Zen core. Whatever. Doesn't matter. The point is the slowness of the frame and squeegee.

Slide projector noises accompany a pan over to a new section of blank canvas. Repeat the above, but this time, faster, and we've got two cores. Again, could be Athlon 64 X2, could be two Zen cores.

Repeat the above. This time, four cores, but even faster. Can make a gag here with Bulldozer, but then there's crashing noises, sirens, catawampus, and then they start over on another section of canvas with a full Zen CCX.

Repeat, again, faster, but with a Zen die. And another Zen die, and another, with the gap between silkscreens getting smaller and smaller until they start printing multiple Zen dies at once, then Zen+, then Zen 2. At this point, things should be moving so fast that they start to blur together to give you the transitions that you need between the Zen generations, you can blend the slide projector noises into the sound of continuously running photocopier noise, and then a whooshing noise of wind rushing past. And then we break from the top-down view and start to see hundreds of millions of wafer silkscreens, zooming out until you get that photographic mosaic of Andy Warhol.

Fame Douglas posted:

Do you have Hyper-V enabled now whereas you didn't have it enabled before (enabling Memory Isolation in Defender activates Hyper-V as well, as does Sandbox, WSL2 or Application Guard)? That tends to reduce performance by a bit