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rezatahs posted:has she ever even eaten a taco bowl? A lot of people make fun of this tweet but I prefer his follow-up https://twitter.com/realdenaldtrump/status/728329182049144832
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Toadvine posted:I found that tweet in a cspam thread about democrats and wouldn't ya know it, there are still posters down there who think Hillary didn't sufficiently control her message and if she only stayed in front of all these scandals more effectively than democrats would still be sitting pretty. Making The Case For 2020 Hillary Clinton 04/28/2017 08:37 am ET | Updated 0 minutes ago Okay, before I go any further, let me state unequivocally for the record that I believe Hillary Clinton ran one of the worst campaigns in modern political history. Her management was inept, her messaging misguided, and her character terribly flawed. Let’s put this into proper perspective: she lost to Donald Trump, for gently caress’s sake! A colossal joke of a candidate who by all accounts should’ve lost to a chair. As the saying goes, the election was Clinton’s to lose... and she lost it. So why on Earth would I want her to run again in 2020? The answer is rather simple: I remain committed to the belief that Clinton would be an incredible president. And I believe she not only will run again, as her recent and outspoken re-launch onto the public stage indicates, but that she will also win. No, I’m not crazy. I just believe that history repeats itself. And for that we simply need to look to Richard Nixon. It was 1960. The first televised presidential debate. Nixon refused make-up. John F. Kennedy, well, he was JFK. The battle pitted the young, charismatic Democratic upstart with the movie-star looks against the nervous, sweaty, 5 o’clock-shadowed, beady-eyed, prematurely-aged Republican. The rest is history. As is Nixon’s startling comeback eight years later to win not one but two presidential elections. Times change. Situations change. People change. Can Hillary? My money’s on yes. Clinton is perhaps the most qualified candidate in history. A prestigious legal career, eight years as First Lady, another eight as U.S. Senator from New York and four years as Secretary of State. A die-hard progressive who voted 93 percent of the time with Sen. Bernie Sanders when both served together. And, she’s a woman... and it’s loving time America is led by a woman. The key to the 2020 election is that Trump will no longer be a political outsider who can lie through his teeth 24/7. No more outlandish positions and pie-in-the-sky promises. That con-game can only work once. Next time he’ll be running on his record, not Clinton’s or Barack Obama’s, or his own bloviating, self-aggrandizing uber-hype. Voters will judge him on whether he delivered or not. Did they get their wall, and did Mexico pay for it? Did he fix immigration and “extreme vetting?” Did he “rid the world of ISIS” as he’s already declared he’s doing? Did he prevent terror attacks on U.S. soil? Did he keep China, North Korea, Russia and Syria in check? Did he and Boy Wonder Jared Kushner achieve Israeli/Arab peace? Did he favorably renegotiate, or terminate, NAFTA? Did he get our NATO allies to “pay their fair share?” Did he bring back the factory and coal jobs? Did he give the poor and middle class their big tax cuts? Did he give them better and cheaper healthcare? Did the economy grow 3 percent+ annually? Did he reduce the debt and deficit? Did he create as many if not more jobs as Obama? Did he ‘drain the swamp’ or fill his cabinet with it? Did all the tough talk and bluster translate to action and results? In short, did he make their America ‘great again?’ To be sure, Trump’s biggest asset during the campaign was his masterful manipulation of his base through an endless barrage of big promises, lies and political rope-a-dope. But now these same qualities are his biggest liability. As Aaron Burr reminds Hamilton in the Broadway musical, “Winning was easy, governing’s harder.” It’s a lot more fun to promise the world as a candidate than to defend against having accomplished nothing after four years as president. Plus, a weakened Trump will more than likely be primaried by a slew of retreads like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker and John Kasich, as well as new challengers such as Nikki Haley, Paul Ryan, Sen. Ben Sasse (NE) or even another outsider billionaire like Marc Cuban. All of whom would do much of Clinton’s bidding for her. But if Trump succeeds in fulfilling his campaign promises and, more so, improves the lives of his voters, then he would likely win again. But his MAGA crowd—the sleeping beast who he roused off the couch and motivated, often with sexist, racist rhetoric, to vote for him—won’t have the same drive, passion and commitment for him if they end up disappointed and feeling conned. Some of them, like Kraig Moss, who I wrote about earlier in the week, have already jumped ship. Many millions more could follow. It could get very, very ugly for the man who, according to a new CNN/ORC Poll, already has the lowest approval rating (44 percent) in modern presidential history. Let’s keep in mind that Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. Nothing to sneeze at, and certainly a strong foundation from which to build even further support these next three years, especially if Trump continues to struggle. And it’s not like Trump gave her a Reagan-like trouncing with his electoral college total either. While he loves to brag at how “massive” his win was, he snagged the presidency with just 306 electoral votes, among the lowest in modern history. Factor in FBI Director James Comey’s unprecedented last-minute politically-based clusterfuck, and Russia’s hack and overall influence in the election, and it’s not hard to understand how the Democrats’ heretofore rock-solid “blue wall” (PA, MI, WI) was lost by the thinnest of margins, giving Trump a squeaker of a victory. If Clinton runs the first thing she’ll need to do is assemble a kick-rear end team. No more Robby Mook, with his millennial naivete and obsession with useless data, or Huma Abedin, who’s saddled with Anthony Weiner’s humiliating legacy. Clinton needs to do whatever’s humanly possible, including begging, to get Bill’s old band back together: Paul Begala, James Carville and George Stephanopoulos. And throw in Obama’s brain, David Axelrod, for good measure. She also needs a few truly sharp, aggressive young strategic soldiers, such as Bakari Sellers for example, to assist with media and messaging. She also needs a War Room, like the one Bill had, to deftly and swiftly address each attack... and there’ll be plenty of them again. The next thing Clinton will need to do is study Trump like she’s never done before. Every tick. Every tell. Every position. His speeches, his rhythms, his overall appeal. She must painstakingly study what he did to connect so powerfully with the “Trump Democrats,” a constituency that should rightfully be hers. Lastly, she must look within. She must do an honest and forensic review of her many gaffes and flaws. She needs to successfully address the perceptions and criticisms that she’s entitled, disconnected, unlikable and shrill. She needs to relate. Needs to win over more women. And, for God’s sake, more men. And Southerners. And those in the Heartland. They all used to vote Democrat, and they can do so again. Like the man said... it’s the economy, stupid. Still is.
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Death to Israel and death to America
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Soup du Journey posted:seriously, can the people in this effin thread not read? you guys remind me of the undergrads i molest If there is one thing that I have learned in my years on this forum it is that goons are illiterate and pay no loving attention to anything and miss the most obvious, plainly spelled out points in all media
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Apr 30, 2017 17:57
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Counterpoint: vote from the rooftops
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Prorat posted:This is cringe. He's not funny and has bad cufflinks
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May 1, 2017 05:38
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rezatahs posted:hmmmm
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May 1, 2017 15:02
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The embassy was a CIA black site that tortured local citizens and they deserved the attack
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:wasn't the actual torture site a couple blocks down the street and the pitchfork mob got the wrong address or something, it's been a while Possibly? In November The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. mission in Benghazi "was at its heart a CIA operation." In January, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Congress that the CIA was leading a "concerted effort to try to track down and find and recover ... MANPADS [man-portable air defense systems]" looted from the stockpiles of toppled Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi. The State Department "consulate" served as diplomatic cover for the previously-hidden annex.
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Also in October we reported the connection between Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who died in the attack, and a reported September shipment of SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles (i.e. MANPADS) and rocket-propelled grenades from Benghazi to Syria through southern Turkey. That 400-ton shipment — "the largest consignment of weapons" yet for Syrian rebels — was organized by Abdelhakim Belhadj, who was the newly-appointed head of the Tripoli Military Council. In March 2011 Stevens, the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linkedLibyan rebels, worked directly with Belhadj while he headed the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. Stevens' last meeting on Sept. 11 was with Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and a source told Fox News that Stevens was in Benghazi "to negotiate a weapons transfer in an effort to get SA-7 missiles out of the hands of Libya-based extremists."
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May 2, 2017 00:30
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Gazpacho posted:the lawyers didn't actually admit a violation of the DNC bylaws, its called alternative pleading At a late 1970s American Bar Association seminar in New York,[2] Richard "Racehorse" Haynes gave this example: "Say you sue me because you say my dog bit you. Well, now this is my defense: My dog doesn't bite. And second, in the alternative, my dog was tied up that night. And third, I don't believe you really got bit. And fourth, I don't have a dog." Normally such arguments would seem to cancel each other on their face, however, legally "even if" and "anyway" clauses need not be argued; mutually exclusive defenses can be advanced without excuses for their relationship to each other. Of course jurists might be influenced by dual defenses such as "my dog was tied up" and "I don't have a dog", but this must be weighed against the fact that defenses may not be allowed if they are introduced too late. Death to America
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May 2, 2017 15:29
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Toadvine posted:Maybe it was the other thread where someone claimed if it wasn't for media coverage of the alt-right then Hillary wouldn't have had to make her basket of deplorables gaffe and then she might have won Wisconsin. Hahaha
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May 2, 2017 15:33
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I take absolute personal responsibility but Russia Comey Wikileaks She's scum
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Accretionist posted:In a couple years, I'll be a techie Illegally immigrate to canada
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May 2, 2017 20:59
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BexGu posted:To steal her daughter's body/soul to rejuvenate hillary broken husk and run one more time. Don't be silly, Hillary needs virgin blood to perform the rites
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May 2, 2017 21:07
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If you want a laugh check out chelseas career history
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May 2, 2017 21:14
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I thought Terry Gilliam was British
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May 2, 2017 21:27
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phasmid posted:Nope. He was the only American member of Monty Python. Learn something new every day, thx
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May 2, 2017 21:30
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They're going to attempt to cash in on 80s nostalgia and run dukakis
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May 2, 2017 21:37
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It's gonna be Tom Hanks
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May 2, 2017 21:43
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Zuckerberg is a huge piece of poo poo but does not belong in politics
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May 2, 2017 21:51
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The_Franz posted:Hasn't Zuck been flying around doing photo-op stuff like working on an assembly line lately? That's exactly the kind of bullshit you do when you are trying to build a "man of the people" image to go into politics. There was an article about him talking to shareholders about how he could maintain control of the company but also take two years to do political poo poo, so house presumably. It's horseshit
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May 2, 2017 21:59
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Oh these various thing pointing out the improprieties of myself and my party switched voters opinions of me. gently caress off
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May 2, 2017 22:15
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Do it ironically posted:i would have won if it was not for my cheating and immoral behaviour becoming public! It's goddamn ridiculous, and people fall for it then go and talk poo poo about trump voters falling for his lies, lol
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Alienwarehouse posted:She's acting like a victim when she had the entire media hiding the content in those emails in favor reporting on Trump's tweets 24/7. One of the networks, CNN I think, said on air that it was illegal to view them
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Nut to Butt posted:Disband the Democratic Party.
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fruit on the bottom posted:This. Had the Dems run a candidate that drummed up the support of their base, had a similar pull on the youth vote as Obama, and had populist support throughout the rust belt they would have resoundingly won, too bad there was no one like that
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May 2, 2017 22:43
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phasmid posted:Essentially the only things they are leftist on are bullshit non-issues that don't matter to serious people, which they use as distractions so we don't clamor for free healthcare, better schools and higher wages. This is the real problem and there's no way to fix it
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spacetoaster posted:The most obvious display of this would be Obama, and Clinton, suddenly deciding gays are cool and good after literal decades of saying "gently caress you" to them. It was because of Joe Biden
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Yea that's the one, smh
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fruit on the bottom posted:Didn't even know he was gay Closet case. Vice President Joe Biden really did get ahead of President Barack Obama on accepting gay marriage in 2012 — and the White House really wasn’t happy about it, despite the two leaders’ many attempts to claim otherwise. That’s the story laid out in Jo Becker’s new book, “Forcing the Spring,” which documents the past few years of successful efforts to expand the legalization of gay marriage, according to an advance copy obtained by POLITICO. Speculation that Biden’s comments on “Meet the Press” in May 2012 were meant as a trial balloon, Becker writes, came from people “not privy to the chaos that erupted inside the West Wing after an emailed transcript of the interview landed in the inbox of the White House press team.” A furious Valerie Jarrett, Becker adds, accused Biden of “downright disloyalty.” Becker describes the months leading up to that rushed moment as a scramble to weigh the political dangers of backing gay marriage against the expected push to add marriage equality to the Democratic convention platform. And Becker says Obama senior adviser David Plouffe reached out to an unexpected ally: former Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman, who came out as gay himself in 2010.
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CassandraZara posted:rofl I just saw this one too Lol jfc
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Tangentially related, but Debbie Wasserman-Schulz was just on CNN defending Obama over his $400k Wall Street speech. If anyone was under the impression that establishment Democrats will actually learn anything from the 2016 election, well... Of course she did, she is a huge piece of poo poo
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Hillary? She's bad. Bernie? He would have won.
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May 3, 2017 00:57
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Wow she named a vp before even winning the primary, ridiculous
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May 3, 2017 02:54
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Hillary had the sasquatch captured and shot so she could try to appeal to the blue collar hunting set, before realizing that she had killed an endangered species. So they buried it in a shallow grave out ba k She should have told this story, every country boy can relate to accidentally hitting something when you're out poaching
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May 3, 2017 03:01
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:It was no accident. This would have been a slam dunk of course she didn't do it, prolly didn't test well with west coast focus groups
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May 3, 2017 03:10
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He is calculating like a narcissistic sociopath but I wouldn't call him smart
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He pulled similar numbers as Romney, Democrats stayed home. It's Hillary's fault she lost Which is to say, Hillary played herself
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