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Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Who's fault is it this white lady lost? Why the twice elected black president of course

Racism much???

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

JB50 posted:

If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

lol

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

OctaviusBeaver posted:

People itt shilling for hillary in 2017 lmbo

They're the same people who shill for microsoft in the tech threads. Is there some kind of shill company that microsoft and hillary both employed? It's really uncanny.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Kiryen posted:

No, I'm a method actor. Also, my kid does. Pretty sure she does not want her raise from min wage to $12 an hour to be min wage again when she owes $30,000 in student debt to pay for idiots to make $60,000 as diversity specialists,

Because idiots that lost the election can't admit that the left is actually not about helping people.

The Democrats are not about working class people at all. Every time trade work or any kind of blue collar work was brought up in the political threads the yuppie democrat posters laughed and made fun of anyone pathetic enough to do that work. They just want them to gently caress off and die in a ditch.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Panzeh posted:

The truest working class policy is destroying medicare and more tax breaks for wall street while making sure raytheon and lockmart get plenty of business with new wars throughout asia.

"heh, the democrats aren't about working people, so i'm totally gonna vote for donald trump, he knows working people"

Those were all Clinton policies though. Obama and the democrats are the ones who wanted to work towards a grand bargain that gutted social security. Trump was firmer on protecting entitlements than hillary was in the election.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Trump stood in front of an aluminum plant and said "we're bringing back jobs!" Hillary wouldn't even go to a union hall, she wouldn't be caught dead talking to those people. Too many bank meetings to go to to spend valuable time with working class people instead of fundraising from wall street vultures.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

OctaviusBeaver posted:

The Democratic primaries are hilarious. In 2008 they got saved by Obama who appeared out of nowhere and beat the establishment who suicidally preferred Clinton.

Then in 2016 they have Clinton running against Bernie. And even if we pretended that Bernie was a good candidate, and not a deluded communist who thinks that Venezuela is a model of good government, he isn't even a Democrat. They had Hillary and that was it. How is the largest political party in the US unable to scrape together a single decent candidate?

They're very bad and stupid and their policy only benefits a small percentage of the population is why.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Panzeh posted:

And then his healthcare plan basically provided for the end of medicare in 2022.

And you thought he was actually serious, like the kind of guy who pays the nigerian scammers money.

You have two doors. One is labelled "probably a man eating lion" the other is labelled "definitely a man eating lion"

Why would you fault anyone for picking the first door? I know you're a democrat and by default you think working class people are too stupid to live, but we pay attention to what the candidates are saying. If Trump is the only candidate even pretending to pay lip service to your issues why wouldn't you vote for him? And he did deliver on a big promise that helped working people that hillary wouldn't have. He ended TPP, and that alone probably makes the Trump vote worth it.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Also signs are suggesting that making life harder for illegal immigrants is already increasing the value of labor in many unskilled labor markets.

Yeah that's a good point. That's another thing trump is keeping a promise on, making the permanent illegal underclass that drives down wages smaller.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Orkin Mang posted:

the credentials argument fell on deaf ears bc clintons creedentials to alot of people were proof positive that she was an incompetent resume padding hack,i remember rachel maddow making the saddest face when sanders called her unqualified and they had sanders wife on and she was like no shes held a lot of positions but shes been mediocre to bad in all of them

Let's see she was a lawyer that laughed about getting child rapists off for slut shaming, she was on a corporate board or two I think after that? She was on the watergate committee for a little bit and then got kicked off for ethics reasons ( super lol ). She had the good fortune to be married to a competent politician that raped other ladies and became first lady of arkansas and the US. She became senator of new york when the party cleared the field for her in the primary and the general election in new york for a democrat is a joke. Lost to Obama in 08 because she's incompetent. Secretary of state and most notable for being the loudest voice in ruining libya forever. Then lost the 2016 to donald loving trump because she's incompetent.

Am I leaving anything out or did I get anything wrong? This is all off the top of my head so please let me know.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Oh don't get me started, because I loving hate Donald Trump, but he's actually (ugh) succeeding at some things that are laying some really good groundwork for himself. If he gets his poo poo together he'll have eight years.

The biggest problem is there's no one on the Democrat side that's competent or inspiring. Bernie's too loving old.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

I love this guy so much.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

phasmid posted:

Still would've won, though.

Yeah probably. Bernie would have won wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan and I don't think he would have lost any of the states that Hillary won. That would have been enough.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
He would have been ineffective as a president though. His Bernie cultists would have expected single payer and free college over night and that's not happening with a republican house.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Bernie's still a moron and would have lost key states, and even if he'd gotten in he'd have gotten nothing done.

I think he would have won and been a Super Carter, I think the intelligence community would have freaked out just as much as they did with Trump and Bernie's too weak to do anything about it.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Tulsi Gabbard.

Too hot to be president. No one wants to look at that hotty for eight years and think about loving her all the time.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Orkin Mang posted:

she hosed up libya pretty bad. obama defered to her judgement against his own and she hosed it up so bad. absolute jabroni

I included that in the list, but it definitely deserves repeating how badly she hosed up an entire country forever.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Nothing would have happened, period. Bernie doesn't have inroads even among the Democrats, because he's not one, among other issues. And it would be a problem, because unlike Obama '08, there wouldn't even be a short term of getting anything done and it would discourage voters for life. Bernie had no leverage to make any promises come true, and you can't flub hope/change twice in a row and expect people to battered-wife their way back to the polls for round 3.

I wonder if they would have even let bernie have a supreme court justice though. I bet he would have just meekly bowed his head and kept garland even after he poo poo talked him in the primary.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

porfiria posted:

You absolutely didn't read this.

Supply and demand friend.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:



I forward to promoting Gabbardism in 2020.

Would like to do some extensive polling on her pronto.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Stexils posted:

it's seriously pathetic how you're writing fanfiction about how bernie getting nominated would somehow lead to even even worse reality than this one, where trump is president and the republicans are in charge of everything

It's true though it would. This reality is cool and hilarious.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

The Republicans dumped TPP and flubbed healthcare so things aren't going nearly as bad as I expected, frankly.

Yeah seriously. I hope Trump gets his 1 trillion dollar infrastructure package too.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

spacetoaster posted:

Jeez. What's it going to take to get the democrats to be antiwar again. lol

Again??

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah Gabbard is like one of the least hawkish democrats. If anyone but assad wins in syria the middle east is super hosed.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

...and the pitch! posted:

Immigrant labor generates value for US companies and they pay taxes.

It's funny to me that there are breitbarters out there who think illegal migrant workers are getting free college.

Wow all I have to do is be a US company then instead of a regular working person whose wages are lower because an immigrant will work it under the table.

Thanks democrats!!

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

porfiria posted:

Instead of trying to gently caress over poor illegal immigrants, fight for communism.

No that's loving retarded.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Marxist-leninism or Trotskyism?

What's the one that turns your country into a despotic impoverished hellhole?

Oh all of them??

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Have you seen China lately? Socialism in One Country is the model I prefer.

No one can see China through its impenetrable layer of smog

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

I really hope this neoliberal hipster bullshit is done for good in the DNC.

neoliberal hipster bullshit is the entire democrat party. Get used to it or vote for somebody else.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Yeah, I forgot how much better capitalist LA is in this department.

If you can;t acknowledge this basic fact then you have some mental problems. LA is a smoggy shithole but it's nothing like Communist Paradise China.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Son, you're fooling yourself if you think socialism isn't the future of the Democratic Party. (I prefer communism, though)

Wow you really are a moron then.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
If China is the best you can come up with for Communist success stories, I will politely decline your offer for full communism now.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Well, I look forward to the bloodshed at the 2020 DNC if they gently caress us over with superdelegates. I'll give you that.

You say "us" like you're relevant to the political process at all. You'll fall in line just like you did in 2016. You always do because there will be super scary racist woman hater trump to vote against in 2020 and in 2024 it will be some other mean old republican super bigot that you have to vote against. You will never learn.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

We didn't fall in line in 2016. Why do you think Hillary lost? (And you still lost the popular vote!)
Enough working class people who voted Obama in 08 and 12 voted for Trump. That's what happened. The hard core socialist that make up 1 or 2% of the party didn't make a difference and they never do.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

He's going to win. Everyone who's so sure he has to lose are the same ones who were so sure he was losing in 2016. Nothing can stop the winning.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

spacetoaster posted:

But enough about Hillary.

Trump is definitely less of a homophobe than Clinton at least.

Probably more racist though, let's be fair. (But not a lot more)

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Streak posted:

Goddamn are you ever a huge retard.

Low democrat turnout got trump elected, not a couple of morons who switched from Obama to Trump.

Simply isn't true. Working class people in the upper midwest who voted Obama twice switched to Trump. This is what won him the election.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Rustbelt voters would have went for Bernie. They knew he was authentic on trade, given his record. Like, I'm so surprised that the Rustbelt ignored a candidate that ignored them for thirty years in favor of a billionaire blowhard that at least visited them during the campaign.

If you're saying "Bernie would have won" I already agreed with you. But working class rust belt voters aren't hard core socialist and communists and they aren't going to deliver you a giant left wing wave to make the democrat party any less poo poo.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Oh I think they will be, once they realize that Trump was full of poo poo on trade and the preservation of Medicare, Medicaid, and SS. I mean, there's only a record amount of suicides and drug addictions occurring in the region due to their livelihoods being outsourced by banks and corporations, AKA Trump's donors.

Banks and corporations are Democrat donors as well. You are incredibly naive.

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Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
And TRump hasn;t been full of poo poo on trade at all. He ended TPP right away, something Clinton asolutely would not have done. b

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