- VikingSkull
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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Bernie would never win, nothing would have stopped Trump's victory and we'll have to live with that forever.
you know what would have stopped Trump?
Hillary's campaign not making him a "pied piper candidate"
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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I remember on these very forums on primary day, once Hillary took the nom, saying trump will win and Bernie was their only chance
anyone with half a brain at least went "uh, guys.............."
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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I know you guys are the "silent majority" and whatnot but salty bernie supporters are just a minor part of demographic.
yeah salty hillary supporters are a way bigger demographic
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Jun 10, 2017 04:37
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Of course it is, you call everyone a Hillary supporter who dares to disagree with you.
lmao the disconnect is powerful
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Jun 10, 2017 04:41
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Remember back when Comey was an ideological Republican who intentionally influenced the election to get his man Trump elected? That was a funny narrative even back then but obviously way more so now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wgb9-Tc6I8
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Jun 10, 2017 04:57
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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And yet people bay constantly for Trump's impeachment. Please don't make the guy who wants to shock my balls president, please just let the clown man dance and tweet
I bet there's at least a few people out there that think if Trump gets impeached then Hillary takes office instead
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Jun 10, 2017 19:14
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We'd stop talking about her if she'd just gently caress off back to the woods like the sasquatch she is
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Jun 11, 2017 14:03
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Jun 11, 2017 15:53
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We bang on the DNC for running the corrupt establishment jackass against Trump and while it is totally their fault it is also funny how tone deaf to their constituency the GOP was, trotting out the zodiac killer and Bush III
the crazy thing is this also exposed that the GOP primaries are actually a democratic process that's amazingly fair compared to the DNC
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I'm sleep deprived. When that happens, the snarky ironic part of my brain dies and the part of my brain that makes long lovely effort posts awakens.
Here is reality: Bernie would have won because partisan voters vote for their party always, Hillary or Bernie would have had these people no matter what. Even if they hated the very concept of a socialist, their "lesser of two evils" logic would kick in and they would faithfully vote for him anyway. Bernie would have nabbed the exact same people Hillary did in 2016, plus his base, which hillary inspired to apathy or spite-voting against her. Meaning he would have received enough electoral votes to become president, and he currently would be. am so confident in this that I'm going to lay it all out for you, stream of consciousness style, from the mind of a sleep deprived 27 year old idiot, to you, whoever is dumb enough to read this, presumably an even bigger idiot.
Summary is as follows : Bernie would have won.
The main thing that Bernie had, that Hillary was never ever going to have, is the backing of the most fickle wing of potential democratic voters: the labor left. These are people who aren't left wing enough to vote for nonsense like the PSL or CPUSA, but heavily favor the endangered American Social Democrat. This is part of the party who is more likely to give zero percent of a gently caress about idpol and all the other bullshit traps set up by center-right democrat politicians to distract their voters. They care about wages, worker rights, unions, and the welfare of citizenry. You know, the exact people Hillary gambled on excluding by trying to court disillusioned moderate republicans. She did this because she's not a loving progressive and did not want to work with economically left-wing people or realize any leftist goals.
She's a goldwater republican, and never stopped behaving like one. Yet, she's a republican that's not viable in the party that actually fits her beliefs. Hillary rose to power during a time when the democrats were willing to share power with a woman where the republican party likely was not. She is, however, a pretty smart, manipulative sociopath that knows how to game people and knows how to broker and leverage the power she could find, and helped found the most powerful political marriage in modern times to get what the good old boys wouldn't give her. This struggle against sexism does not make her a saint, because her goals were only power and control for its own sake. I don't think she's ever professed a belief she wouldn't turn on if it was unpopular or for a bigger check, like any other politician in her class. It sure did make her some enemies that are objectively worse than she is, but they didn't get the chance to run against her. The only thing you can say for her, is that her bloodbath cleaving her way to where she is today, certainly opened up new places for women in politics. She may have laid the groundwork for someone decent and less monstrous to someday claim the title of Madam President. This is probably giving her way too much credit, actually. Women like Ann Richards were real pioneers of establishing what it means to be a woman with executive power. Hillary is and was pretty much just an opportunist that's happy to take the credit of other more deserving women though.
That digression aside, Bernie did have the support of the labor left. Not just support, but enthusiastic support. Bernie supporters weren't going "well he's not ideal but I'm thinking in five dimensions here with lesser evils of a supreme court nominee, plus he promised to reschedule weed". He had huge rallies of people calling for his presidency everywhere he went. He had excited people into participating in the political process beyond merely voting. Who the gently caress canvasses for votes and phone banks except pol-sci majors and wouldbe low level politicians? A shitload of Bernie supporters.
Hillary didn't have enthusiasm from anyone except some of those aging racist white TERF 2nd wave feminists. Everyone else was on board as a preventative anti-republican, and later anti-trump measure only. This strategy of courting the "anyone but a republican" crowd didn't work for John Kerry, a man who at least comes by his boring moderate nature honestly, and actually ended up being a good secretary of state, with a pretty-okay senate record. Who then, could possibly imagine it was ever going to work for the absentee senator from New York who once voted for a bad war and tried to ban violent video games, then went on to be a secretary of state, where she stood out as an exceptional dumbass, was violating national security laws in the most boring way possible, and failing to act on critical intel that even the goons playing Eve Online were aware of, resulting in the pointless deaths of several Americans who by all accounts should still be loving alive.
Hillary only went on to win the popular vote because being a democrat in high population blue states like New York and California merely means you drive a hybrid, shop at an organic produce co-op while smoking a joint and cheering at a pride parade, and those places have a lot of people in them, many who had zero reason to care about Hillary's total lack of pro-labor rhetoric, since everyone who might care is effectively disenfranchised, or can no longer afford to live there. In the rust-belt, where these things DO matter to voters, Trump managed to sputter out enough words about getting some jobs back and protecting the ones we still have. So she lost a region that has been faithfully blue in many an election over the last half century. And suddenly he won, because he was the only candidate to even thoughtlessly pander to the hopes and dreams of the rust belt. The return of the auto jobs and long-gone manufacturing sector so many unemployed skilled laborers need, because without them they are facing a harsh and shortened life of poverty where retirement will be surrendering a social security check to a nursing home, if they're lucky to live long enough.Of course he has zero ability or intention to truly restore a meaningful number of those lost jobs, but he indicated he cared more than hillary, and he made good on his promise to kill a treaty that would've snuffed what little manufacturing this country has left. A career liar, famous for saying whatever will get her a vote, lost to that orange pussy grabbing sentient toupee. because she couldn't bear the prospect of flying a jet into Detroit to tell ex-auto workers that she will bring their jobs back. She couldn't even bring herself to lie about that, such is her contempt for the working class. LMBFAO
Bernie's ENTIRE shtik was about preserving domestic jobs, improving pay, and protecting the eroding welfare of the average American, and constantly stumping with a speach that tirelessly invoked New Deal-esque rhetoric to great effect in those places. The New Deal playbook actually works, and if he had ended up as our president you can bet that he could find work for long-unemployed people. No, he couldn't magically bring American manufacturing back, but if you're willing to restore programs like the WPA and make the minimum wage a living wage, while restoring the marginal tax rates to their post-WW2 levels, you can do a fuckload more for the economy than Hillary or Trump ever will be able to.
So yeah, Bernie would have won the general, by popular vote and electoral vote and honestly the nomination would have been the upset of the century if the DNC and Hillary played fairly. Of course they didn't though. Colluding at every possible point to stymie him and anyone they suspected would vote or caucus for him. It's likely that, had it been an honest contest, and not endlessly hosed with from metagaming like instructing the media on what to talk about, deliberately mischaracterize the nature of super-delegates to misinform voters. to actual fraud like bussing people in for caucus stuffing or the actual documented voter fraud in Arizona. All those very unfortunate voter registration purges that occurred days before primaries were held, that meant newly affiliated democrats couldn't vote in the primaries at all in many states... For how lovely she plays ball in her own party, she deserved to lose nationally. Hate Donald all you want, that gilded fuckboy won fair and square. Hillary isn't and wasn't worthy of your consideration if you're a progressive. She's just a republican that the republicans didn't want, but she was strong and stubborn enough to keep on going anyway, and found a partner in crime with Bill, and a party of marks in the democrats. For all her scheming, she's ascended far as she can. If she runs again, it will be nothing but he embarrassing flailing of a dying ego fed by the bitter spite of people who think losing is worse than doing right by your fellow man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNHfeBJ81I
Anyway I think I'm about done typing until I've had some sleep and know better than to make a post this big and rambling in GBS. Nothing i've said is wrong but nobody cares, I just want to absolve my soul on the day of Judgement so that I can say I did my part to instruct the goons of good and evil and right and wrong, and to know the difference between one and the other, so as to guard one's soul. So that when someone who actually liked Hillary on these forums has to face God, the Lord can say, "Did you not read Basic Hitler's big rear end post explaining the dualistic nature of the ethics of Bernie and Hillary, idiot?" 
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As usual, this the good Trump thread has the best effortposts as well as the best meltdowns
sir this is the Hillary has a book thread
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Jun 13, 2017 22:10
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Hillary didn't want to talk about robot jobs because she is a joint cybernetic project of IBM and General Atomics
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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I'm pro free market labor regulations are communism and anything that stands in the way of obtaining capital is inherently immoral
I'm all for enslaving poors in this country because they don't have enough money to be considered people
whoa man maybe don't be so hateful
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I think it's really telling that by mimicking you and yours you consider that retarded trolling
well if we mimicked you and yours people would just consider it retarded
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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I agree brother, I finally see the light, I will dehumanize myself and face the bloodshed and vote Republican like you to bring all the classism and racism to the light so we might all accept our awful nature and embrace it
you could do like I do and not vote and laugh at the idiots on both sides who refuse to believe we live in a corporate cyberpunk dystopia
just listen to Dan Terminus and give up on life
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gunship rules
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Jun 14, 2017 01:57
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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The media is going to start pushing alternate reality articles about how great things would be if Hillary were POTUS later this year to kick off her 2020 run. She will start touring shortly after that to "test the waters". Of course, the polls will suggest a 99.99% probability she will be elected in 2020 and we get to watch history repeat itself.
later this year?
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a9646167/hillary-clinton-presidency-imagined/
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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Though unrestrained capitalism is good because it hurts Trump supporters the most so I guess #MAGA
Every dead Republican is one step closer to the country being great again
this seems pretty harsh sir perhaps try to be less hateful
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lotta cat jail on this page
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Its all from the bernie bro shooter thread LOL.
you gotta figure Lowtax is on a first name basis with his local Secret Service officials
"yeah Bill, what'd they do this time?"
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lmfao
e- oh god the Hillary tankies replying to him
VikingSkull fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jun 16, 2017
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If Bernie runs again, expect some false flag attacks
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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I was conceived in a tube but something went horribly wrong. I burst forth, naked and crazed, and proceeded to meander my way through a strange and wonderful world.
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no one ever really made an effective case that Hillary was a human, let alone a woman
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Jun 25, 2017 04:21
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I know we're talking about this dumb election book, but I like to think that in our lifetimes, we'll get a real tell-all book.
I still can't believe a few of my gay friends, who are the hillary supporters you're describing, still say they're afraid of Trump literally sending goons to come round them up. I mean, it was stupid as hell the day after the election, but any objective look at Trump paints a better picture of someone who supports gay rights when put up against Hillary.
Trump is a New Yorker and most people from New York know at least one gay person and on average they are less religious than most of the country. If I had to guess where in NY you'd find the most homophobia, hilariously it would be among minority immigrant enclaves, lol
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the worst case scenario is he installs more conservatives to the SC and then they make it a states rights thing, in which case we can go back to the ol' tried and true "what the gently caress Alabama?"
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Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
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someone post the grover Iraq War predictions
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