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Printing legendary creatures is also for Commander, because commander players are completely insane and very stupid. This includes me.
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YggdrasilTM posted:A lot of people are complaining for the 2 gideon, 2 chandra and 3 nissa, but this is just an effect of the changed rotation, right? without that , we would have 1 Gideon, 1 Chandra and 2 Nissa. (No, I will NOT count the dumb "not really for play" intro deck planeswalkers). Origins has only the five gatewatch members as PW cards. BFZ has Gideon, Thassa, Bobby Nixon, Chandra, and Nissa. 3 GW, 2 not. Well okay they're founding the group so they need a lot of them. SOI has Jace, Sorin, Nahiri, Arlinn, Liliana and Tamiyo. 2 GW, 4 not. This block had a shitton of planeswalkers and the two gatewatch members are the ones not in battle so it's fine. KLD has Chandra, Nissa, Dovin, Ajani, and Tezz. 2 GW, 2 not, one joins. This is where things get suspicious as it has been only two sets since OGW, but the group is expanding past the characters in Origins and it needs to represent the villains so I gu- just Amcocknet has Gideon, Liliana, and Nissa. Hold on, these are just gatewatch members! Nissa was in Kaladesh! Liliana was in the set before that! AFAIK there isn't a story thing where the place has no walkers. What gives? It doesn't help that the gatewatch is kinda shoehorned into specific mechanical niches most of the time, for sake of character. Gideon has to turn into a human soldier creature until end of turn. Liliana makes things die and/or zombies. Chandra is dealing damage to something. While they experiment a little it means the mono-color 'walkers are usually exploring the same aspects of that color. Think about Ashiok vs. Tezzeret, how Ashiok deals with the exile zone and Tezz is the artifact guy, despite both being UB planeswalkers. Or how Venser does teleporting to flicker and make things unblockable, but Dovin Baan has WU's defensive grind going for it. But the last 4 mono-white planeswalkers have all had the ability to become a human soldier creature because they're all Gideon. It's not just Standard numbers, it's that Liliana doesn't do the same things as Bobby Nixon.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:08
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Lone Goat posted:I'm saying it's not playable. LSV and Marshall had it at C and C- (I forget who had what grade), i think it's D level. Though I would side it in if i'm up against a bunch of x/1s or otherwise extremely aggro deck and need breathing room. Combat Celebrant, Vizier of Remedies, and Initiate's Companion are the only X/1 it does anything to. The others fly, revive, or have exert or dies triggers that make blocking them with a 1/1 not work.
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Apr 20, 2017 14:46
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What if they got around the reserved list by removing it, given that no one who qualitatively exists supports it?
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Apr 21, 2017 02:46
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Isn't the Reserved List basically admitting the secondary market exists and the cards have monetary value, unlike everything else they try to do to dissociate the game with gambling?
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Apr 21, 2017 17:42
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Lone Goat posted:I don't think you understand what gambling means. It's an association WoTC has been avoiding, despite the packs containing random cards and players shuffling decks of cards to randomize them before playing for large amounts of money.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:04
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Rinkles posted:Christopher Moeller will be missed (he's retiring from Magic). His art includes as high of points as Zealous Persecution and Isamaru, Hound of Konda, and as low of points as Strength of the Tarjuru and Vampire's Bite, encompassing the best and worst of Magic art.
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Apr 21, 2017 23:16
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Star Man posted:Because instead of stuffing a loaded weapon into mouth and pulling the trigger, I'm spending my time misreading posts on the internet. You should play a fun game like Magic: The Gathering.
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Apr 21, 2017 23:37
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I'm glad Heckbent is catching on as slang for 1-or-fewer cards in hand.
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Apr 22, 2017 00:04
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Quick rules question on cycling. So, some cards say "When X is cycled, do Y." Does the "Do Y" happen before or after the card is drawn? Here's the rules text I found that gives me pause: Right. The ability triggers on cycling being activated and put on the stack, and is thus put on the stack above it and resolves first. Whatever triggers off of cycling will resolve before cycling's own Draw A Card.
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Apr 22, 2017 00:11
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The Shortest Path posted:The thread title still not being I CAST MOUTH is a huge disappointment smh Change the title so I can have had one positive contribution to the thread.
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Apr 22, 2017 23:28
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suicidesteve posted:Yeah it makes a lot more sense to ban the card that other decks use and nobody ever whines about in those decks and which was fine for years before a certain garbage mechanic was printed and not the card that makes it so control decks' traditionally bad matchups aren't actually bad matchups for the deck. Top isn't that, it's an abomination of sin that should never see the light of day. That it was reprinted in eternal masters instead of being sent into the desert to die should be investigated & prosecuted like a first degree murder imo.
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Apr 23, 2017 20:48
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I'd rather Control be dead than let Divining Top live, and I wish they'd ban it from Vintage for logistics reasons too.
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Apr 24, 2017 16:55
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mcmagic posted:There DEFINITELY is a cabal of Legacy-only players that play no other Magic other than Legacy. Shame that Wizards just cannot print cards for them, because Wizards said Wizards cannot.
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Apr 24, 2017 20:06
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The wording on attacking exert guys is "you may exert [CARDNAME] as it attacks." The decision is made as it attacks, and it is not a trigger the opponent may respond to. By the opponent has priority, all the triggered abilities are on the stack and the creatures don't untap next turn.
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Apr 24, 2017 23:34
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Counterbalance and top are the only expensive cards in miracles that got owned by Top's ban. A Force is a Force regardless of list.
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Apr 25, 2017 00:18
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mcmagic posted:Glorybringer isn't made for this Archangel Avacyn world... But it can kill Avacyn when it attacks! 
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Apr 25, 2017 00:58
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No matter how many ellipses mcmagic uses I'd never do something as dastardly as giving him an avatar that links to a lovely forum for people too bad at posting for gbs.
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Apr 25, 2017 01:04
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Top should always be banned for reasons beyond power level.
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Apr 25, 2017 13:26
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sit on my Facebook posted:Nah, wait for 4cSaheeli to be packing Magma Spray and Manglehorn and we'll see how well Mardu chugs 
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Apr 25, 2017 23:11
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mfcrocker posted:then my Legacy deck got banned TBH the Top ban is the best choice they've made since the last time they banned Top. Are card games a zero-sum game where your fun must come exclusively from draining others of their fun?
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Apr 27, 2017 12:59
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Jenx posted:Wait, yeah! They have people like her working for them right? Then what the hell is their excuse? "Ah yes! We are going to hire this person, because she is really good at the game and then not listen to a word she says! Brilliant! Now, let's print another loving Gideon!" Because they value the counsel of Wiseman more than any of their other employees. 
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Apr 27, 2017 16:52
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Lone Goat posted:I think that's a Honed Khopesh. drat, a Leonin Scimitar functional reprint is pretty good but not that good.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:52
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DigitalMocking posted:wait, what?? If you have unspent mana at the end of a phase or step, nothing happens. It just goes away. Add eight green, spend six of it on Ulvenwald Hydra, you don't lose two life. It just disappears. It's opened up a bit of design space now that you can't essentially pay X to reduce your own life total by X anymore.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:56
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The three gods will be that demon Liliana is after, Storm Crow, and 1996 World Champion.
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Apr 27, 2017 20:50
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mcmagic posted:It shows you how dumb magic players are that that awful Gideon deck is actually having an impact on card prices. Guys... Saffron Olive decks are NEVER good. I assume you mean morally never good, because the guy makes wacky brews that people assume are far better than they actually are which creates an upward force on prices and they never go down due to cards' persistent price memory.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:37
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I am incredibly upset about one person posting his Magic: The Gathering related writing in this thread; let's go back to speculating on the marital lives of people who play Magic.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:23
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YggdrasilTM posted:Mardu is the Abzan of current standard. A deck that will be claimed to be far more degenerate than it actually was, a deck that will be fondly remembered when people start complaining about the next standard, or both?
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May 1, 2017 00:11
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CompeAnansi posted:Found the 1v1 mtgo commander ban list: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/1v1-commander-banned-list Are Loyal Retainers, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Loyal Retainers not on MTGO or something?
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May 3, 2017 17:58
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The absence of Grim Monolith, Ancient Tomb, Chrome Mox, and Mox Diamond make me uncomfortable w/r/t blowout leads, too. Oloro is the uncontested best deck by a pretty wide margin.
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May 3, 2017 18:02
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80s James Hetfield posted:Now they just banned a bunch of things for what they consider "oppressive game play" (Sol Ring lol) while ignoring way more dumb and oppressive poo poo like Cyclonic Rift and a bunch of other poo poo that people can name off the top of their head faster than me This is a 1v1 focused list, you know. You know. Seriously is there a place where I can see what cards aren't on MTGO, I am seriously confused about not banning Vampiric Tutor/Imperial Seal.
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May 3, 2017 18:05
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Attorney at Funk posted:They're both on MTGO, I've seen them in Vintage lists. I assume that a big part of it is they're both way cheaper online than in paper and tutoring is way less of a hassle with instant shuffling and the ability to see your entire deck at a glance. They're also literally the most powerful tutors and a gigantic push towards black commanders that others can't match. And there's two.
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May 3, 2017 18:11
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Tales of Woe posted:Pretty sure Demonic Tutor is more powerful than those. Costing 1 is huge, and Vampiric Tutor's instant speed is even huger. Demonic is 3rd, maybe 4th behind Mystical.
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May 3, 2017 18:20
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Angry Grimace posted:Demonic Tutor puts the card in your hand immediately and doesn't cost you any cards. I still disagree, but in a sense it's all academic. Oloro still has all three, and Mystical Tutor. Hard to state how favored he is in the format as-is. Breya too. I hope you like Esper!
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May 3, 2017 18:44
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Oh snap, I forgot Tasigur and Vial Smasher are legal in this, with Cruise and Dig. There's reasons to play nonwhite decks, but no reason to not play UBx.
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May 3, 2017 19:00
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En Fuego posted:Leovold not being banned is stupid, but also means I can run a wheel effect deck with elves tribal AND paradox engine! YAY Can you handle Oloro with a bunch of wraths and counterspells trying to reanimate Elesh Norn asap (which is pretty sap), Vial/Karum's ability to kill you with Force, Tasigur surviving -x/-x board wipes your guys don't, and Titania loaming Strip Mine to beat you with 5/3s? Because Leovold is being kinda dwarfed by significantly more hosed up things.
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May 3, 2017 19:27
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:That seemed like a hilariously big oversight. Glad I only play in-person paper EDH, prophet is stupidly op. It's fine in 1v1 where it does its job, but it's a huge investment of mana to lose if it gets beaned quickly. Why use one list for 1v1 and MP?
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May 3, 2017 20:04
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Veyrall posted:Then she mind-controls him and forces him to leave, because that's totally something Black can do as a color.   It's not common, and two of the four times they explored this effect were the card Mindslaver, but when it's not Mindslaver it's on a black card.
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May 4, 2017 13:02
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Revolt's an ability word, at that, so it's not a goofy rear end keyword like Fabricate or Annihilator. The Revolt — could be removed and the card would be functionally identical.
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The Shortest Path posted:Yeah but how often have they done ability word reprints without the ability word? Never, and that's why we're doomed.
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