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this election is maybe not actually at a bad time for labour because the tories were certainly winning an election in 2020 because brexit wouldn't really have hosed everyone quite so badly but it will before the next general election now
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but then i've thought labour were losing the next general election anyway the moment brexit happened
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May 6, 2017 19:11
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she sucks. I voted for stella creasy for deputy first time and i'd vote for her for leader. Jo Cox would have been a great candidate then some mentally ill racist murdered her
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May 6, 2017 19:14
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Corbyn shares my lust for global annihilation and had even put forward motions for it in parliament so I'll always like him
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May 6, 2017 22:09
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its cool that despite being based on false data and even then being proven to be incredibly bad austerity is still being pushed
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May 8, 2017 23:26
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a substantial amount of people will vote for them despite hating all of their policies and liking labours because they're competent and labour aren't
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May 8, 2017 23:34
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Homeless Friend posted:also I can't be the only person who is always amazed at the sexual aspect of British politics right, like I dunno if it's different brand of conservatism but british conservatives really seem to kick it up a notch. Our sexual scandals & poo poo seem bland by comparison. You got big names /w posters of magaret thatcher about their bed for their entire childhood, ppl fuckin pigs, dominatrix may. What the hell is goin on over there. Our rapers n pedos or w/e seem milquetoast in comparison The Aristocrats
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May 9, 2017 08:03
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anyone who earns £70k or more is in the top 10% of earners in the UK. 150k is the top 5%. people need to realise taxes can be raised massively because they'll impact very few people
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May 9, 2017 08:22
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The 2 most popular newspapers in the UK have a combined circulation of 3 million people and they're both really right wing. All the right wing papers have a circulation of about 5.6 million. Not including the evening standard/metro which are free papers and have about 2.5 million readers since they're available on public transport. For comparison the guardian has a circulation of 150k. The daily mail supported the nazi's before WW2 and the sun is owned by murdoch. The press in the UK are so bad that fake news never really happened here because the papers lie so much
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May 9, 2017 09:43
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Next time labour are in power the main things they need to do is fully implement the leveson reforms on the press and bring in proper PR voting and accept they won't have an outright majority as often if at all from then on because the tories for sure won't. Brexit is really popular at the minute because the press are playing it off like the evil euro bureaucrats and nobody is feeling any real effect from it. Once we're out with the hard brexit we're getting and suddenly everything is 30% more expensive because the pound is worth the same as the dollar and we're now paying tariffs on all trade people might realise how badly they've hosed themselves
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May 9, 2017 09:45
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most people don't read the paper they choose to read because they think about the politics of it anyway labour are hosed because there has been a 3rd party hoovering up a large number of votes and they've all collapsed. The SNP has an extremely disproportionate share of seats considering how few votes they get but the lib dems/ukip died between this and the last election and they accounted for 15%+ of the votes
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May 9, 2017 10:23
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we're hosed lolZephro posted:Also this:
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May 9, 2017 16:17
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fox hunting is coming back lol
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May 9, 2017 16:49
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Homeless Friend posted:Seems like a smart way to reduce reliance on food banks! its not for poors
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May 9, 2017 17:22
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jBrereton posted:yes it is astounding It's absolutely a sign the plp have done some damage though constantly saying he's unelectable and can't win
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May 9, 2017 20:15
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cameron also ran an extremely lazy campaign because after winning an unexpected majority he thought people loved him but people keep telling me its corbyn's fault brexit happened regardless
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May 9, 2017 21:40
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corbyn wasn't which is why he gets blamed but unsurprisingly the press were more interested in the tories who were in power and in the biggest fight possible
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jBrereton posted:This basically happened and then in a brilliant strategic decision, instead of getting a general election they could have won by pushing really hard on a totally collapsing Conservative party, dumb rear end splitters decided to try to oust Corbyn by way of no-name dick pill merchant who instantly repudiated his entire life of CND activism Owen Smith. it was really impressive how badly they botched that i thought they had an actual candidate at first lol they should never be allowed to forget what a monumental gently caress up it was arranging another leadership challenge then without a loving candidate christ
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May 9, 2017 22:36
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gently caress off hamprince you moron
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May 9, 2017 22:38
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hamprince probably wants blair back in power for another war in the middle east
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May 9, 2017 22:38
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its a massive indictment of the mess blair left labour in that for as incredibly incompetent as corbyn is the rest of the PLP are somehow worse
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May 9, 2017 22:40
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it was farage's group who were promising the £350m and not the tories i think but it was still disgraceful and Chuka Umunna trying to get some rule implemented that claims couldn't be straight up lies was a good idea but where the gently caress has he gone
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May 9, 2017 22:44
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:sorry brother but a brexit especially with the current level of negotiation (read none) is going to absolutely hit the average briton in the wallet and the entire economy as well we know but claiming an exact amount is dumb as gently caress. Pick a few every day items and find out what WTO rules mean the tariffs would be and scream about the price going up x amount
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May 9, 2017 22:46
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A list of products that come form the EU that are bought every week and all of a sudden cost 20% more is something people would understand
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May 9, 2017 22:52
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i lost a friend because he works for andrea leadsom and she replied to something he'd posted on facebook and i asked her a question and refused to delete it. he then stopped talking to everyone he was friends with at uni so i think i made the right decision
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May 9, 2017 22:59
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Karl Barks posted:okay brits heres my question. if you're a liberal, why would you not vote for the lib dems, or try to take over that party. why do they cling to labor???? is it just cause the lib dems are sad and pathetic? thatcher was a neoliberal. blair was a neoliberal. thatcher said her greatest creation was blair does that help explain why british politics is hosed?
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May 10, 2017 21:36
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hakimashou is extremely dedicated to becoming the top troll on the glory hole but its not going to happen because its broken
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May 10, 2017 21:38
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hakimashou posted:Me saying what I believe and then misguided people disagreeing with me does not make me a "troll" jose. i've seen you serious post mate
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May 10, 2017 21:42
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jBrereton posted:The lib dems is unsurprisingly full of liberals of many flavours and was really created by the more fiscally conservative end of Labour in the 1980s. i got told i was insulting a person of colour the other day and a "socialist" because i called someone out for posting their own tweets lol
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May 10, 2017 21:43
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jBrereton posted:*in increasingly mantric UKMT voice* gently caress off nazi!!! idk if you ever actually read the europol thread but its insanely bad and that poster does appear to want to genocide muslims based on posts in that thread
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May 11, 2017 08:11
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Western leftists, or at least anglosphere leftists, like to delude themselves about how mainstream their politics is to the point where UK trots can't imagine a political position to the right of Blair-era labour when no, actually, Blairite neoliberalism is still (slightly) left of the UK's center and there's a reason even Corbyn isn't pledging to nationalize all banks on day 1. corbyn isn't a trot you idiot. you loving moron
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May 11, 2017 08:12
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the labour manifesto owns a whole lot shame the tories are insanely popular
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May 11, 2017 15:04
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hakimashou posted:They want to let children vote... 18 year olds are children if you're allowed to die and pay taxes for your country you should get a vote. Take the vote away from anyone receiving state pension
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May 11, 2017 20:52
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The Falklands was justified
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May 13, 2017 10:35
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Concerned Citizen posted:i continued to insist as my empire crumbled into dust they had a referendum recently on whether they wanted their status to remain as is and they voted yes by 99.8%
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jBrereton posted:not really entirely sure why they didn't fire trident at the argentine naval yards but hey we won without it anyway my dad apparently kept telling everyone we've got the deterrent and we should use it
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Baloogan posted:my son you are dissapoint I've made multiple posts that we should nuke Spain if they start poo poo over Gibraltar
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May 13, 2017 20:41
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Thatcher knew that peolpe who worked for her were pedo's and she didn't care because she knew it meant she could control them
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May 13, 2017 21:46
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Baloogan posted:Why bother calling for an early election if nothing really is going to change? (Guessing the numbers in brackets are ridings flipping) UKIP were polling 15% at the last election and all of that vanishing has gone to the tories. labour are polling exactly the same as 2015 showing its not really corbyn thats been a problem also its funny that coal mining dying is currently loving up US politics as well when it was even less important there
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in 2010 the 3rd part were the lib dems and they went into a coalition with the tories. in 2015 the scottish referendum had happened as well as the lib dems being in coalition so labour got wiped out in scotland by the SNP coupled with the lib dems collapsing with their votes going to the tories. UKIP got 15% but being FPTP they only got a single seat what you see now is labour are completely dead in scotland while the tories aren't and there are only 2 parties in england with all the 3rd party collapsing now voting tory things are going to be insanely poo poo for people by the time labour are next in government just like when Blair won
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