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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

etalian posted:

It's amusing how they don't get that they are the weaker party in the negotiation and their position is getting weaker over time as the No Deal option becomes more likely.

I'm not sure there was ever supposed to be a deal.

You keep saying "they" and "the brits" but this is being done by a small group of people who were never acting in good faith and want a race to the bottom with a little bit of disaster capitalism on the side. The dumb rear end gammons that gave them the go ahead to do this aren't actually running things.

Regarde Aduck has issued a correction as of 20:23 on Jan 19, 2019

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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System Metternich posted:

So if I got this right, May's newest idea is to negotiate a separate deal with Ireland even though Dublin has repeatedly made it clear that this is not something that is going to happen, ever? :psyduck:

From the little things being leaked from her cabinet it's clear she's all in with the hard brexit side of her government rather than try to appeal to parliament. Which means now more than ever everything she does is just to stall while we shamble towards no deal. Yes she is incompetent but I think from now on the incompetence is going to be pantomime. I expect all manner of bullshit 'ideas' will be floated and then quickly dismissed as we approach the vote in February. It also seems this has stopped whatever jitters were making people leak that a GE was imminent. I'd love to be wrong about that last bit but eh, it's gone very quiet and all our lovely media is just going around in circles going "can May REALLY rewrite the GFA!????!?!? IS this GOOD or BAD? DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" which means absolutely nothing is happening.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

forkboy84 posted:

There are few things as Tory as dismissing reading books as a middle class pastime Jesus wept.

I think it's more a reference to education. I mean it's not wrong is it? Education level did play a pretty large part in how the vote split. We can get precious about the political consciousness of the modern British working class, or lack of, but we're surely not going to defend ignorance?

The difference is a Tory sneers while a leftist should be like "oh dear everyone is loving dumb, better improve access to education".

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Yeah it's not going anywhere because you're a nation of peasant cucks who can't even imagine what you'd do without a royal family or nobility.

You got rid of royalty and immediately replaced them with dynasties. Which have much more real power than our Royals.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Stop laughing at us!

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

hakimashou posted:

Not inbred, iodine deficient.

Is the UK known to have iodine deficiency or is this just your new thing?

I mean I'd love to solve the mystery to why this country is so poo poo but I doubt this is it.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

twoday posted:

Their idiot plans are to declare martial law to try to bring order to the chaos and then rig the economy so that they profit the most from it, but actual organized crime and smuggling cartels will step in to do both of these things more efficiently and effectively than the tories, as happened in post-Soviet Russia. They overestimate A) their ability to control the situation (imagine if the implementation of martial law is managed as well as Brexit planning), and B) their ability to profit in post-Brexit Britain, because they don’t even have a basic understanding of how the world they are creating is going to work. The tories are going to be pounded in the butt by the invisible hand of the market they’ve unleashed.

I wonder if Brexit will lead to a return of piracy in the Atlantic

They don't give a gently caress about the country or their party so who cares? They'll make their money and go live in New Zealand. They don't have master plans so how can they fail? They have no plans at all other than make money and i'm sure they'll manage that. They usually do.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Raskolnikov38 posted:

we liberated france! no i've never heard of anyplace or event involving the word Dieppe

I don't really get this angle tbh. How does the failure of the dieppe raid have any bearing on the combined allied invasion of Normandy?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

Mackers posted:

England won't be missed, shame about Scotland and Wales (who loving hilariously voted leave).

Populism bad who knew. Appealing to the ideas and desires of the common man, when the common man is a complete and utter loving retard who devours 5 course meals of propaganda and disinformation online and elsewhere daily.

If you don't know why people voted leave then you might just be the worst kind of fair weather leftist.

That's not to say it was a good idea. Just that you understand the causes beyond "lmao the english are mean! Perfidious albion!!!!!!!!!!"

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Relevant Tangent posted:

also everyone clearly wants them to shoot the hostage but is too polite to say so

Oh they have.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grape posted:

JESUS the Tories are incompetent.

They gonna make bank. Stop making excuses for them.

Captain Cappy posted:

Britain can burn for all I care because QI got boring and they combined 8 out of 10 cats with a weird gameshow for some reason. I'm not sure if the country produces anything else besides that.

Some of us live here. It provides like the floor... that the house goes on. Thank you.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Relevant Tangent posted:

If your egg came from a hen that had a name, was well cared for, and relatively well off then the European beliefs about eggs are correct. What do you think the odds are that's where the eggs you're eating came from? The EU has a higher rate of salmonella than the US because of a fantasy version of where food comes from. The data I found to back this up is old as hell and if someone has better please post.
Link to article
Basically though, if your layers exist in chicken-hell which is where the eggs we eat in America come from you need to wash them. Most of the eggs you eat elsewhere also come from chicken-hell but the manufacturers pretend they don't.

In the UK at least most people buy "free range" eggs and there is a symbol on them to prove that "free range" actually means what it says. Now whether you can trust the organisation that regulates this is another question. I've never put eggs in the fridge and never got salmonella but I've also never bought battery-farmed eggs.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Samurai Sanders posted:

Is KFC Britain's only fried chicken option or something?

I mean, here in Japan it doesn't have much competition for that exact style of fried chicken, but I thought Britain's closer cultural ties with the US would mean there would be more.

Major brand fried chicken? Yeah. But there's billions of independent fast food places that operate under the umbrella term "kebab shop".

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Moridin920 posted:

I also play a lot of Paradox games but I mostly think it is hilarious that May and the Tories are dismantling the United Kingdom

Did none of you actually believe capitalism was the great beast that devours all around it and then itself?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

oliwan posted:

I think it would be very funny if the European army is formed immediately after brexit and used to invade England and rename London New Brussels.

Not going to happen because that would be a really good ending to this whole thing and it's obvious to anyone living in the UK that there is no hope and no easy way out of this.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Jel Shaker posted:

we’re just waiting for the vote which will literally be a few days before b-day, same vote that May recently lost too so don’t expect it to pass

Her deal is just hard brexit with two years of messing about to take the edge off things. It's terrible. It all depends on if you are on vital medication or know someone on vital medication because if so I guess she has you by the balls and her deal is better than no deal.

If you have the privilege of being a pragmatic rear end in a top hat then the absolute chaos of no deal might at least result in the tories collapsing. But yeah, there will be a death count.

Like instinctively, in my heart of hearts I want the absolute chaos of no deal over May getting her way via hostage taking. But intellectually I realise that's really horrible. I guess the moral of this is that a politician shouldn't have been able to do this in the first place. That she has been able to position her deal as being the only way to prevent hundreds - thousands of deaths should be a criminal case. She should see jail for this. Instead it's a point on contention on an internet forum.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

This isn't even controversial. People vote Tory because they promise to scrap human rights protections. This is a positive story for the majority of Tory voters.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
The moment one of you yank fucks sets foot here I will kill you and use your flesh to fashion a variety of pouches, belts and webbing.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Moridin920 posted:

jesus

why doesn't england just get out of ireland already that's not your goddamn country

It's a bit more complex than that. Ireland isn't particularly in a rush to take on Northern Ireland with its lovely local economy. And if the Northern Irish don't want to be part of Ireland you'll get a lot of violence again. It's going that way anyway. Every year polls show more people wanting reunification. Just got to wait for the olds to die.

No one is desperately holding onto NI. There just isn't the political will in Ireland, Northern Ireland or the UK to change anything at this point.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

etalian posted:

I'm sure a delay or the UK begging for delay is the most likely outcome.

I wish I shared your optimism.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Randler posted:

The best possibly scenario would be a hard Brexit but with a delay until June giving the EU and the Member States two more months to coordinate and fine-tune their current Instruments for mitigating the impact of Brexit on their interests.

A bit too on the nose there.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Opferwurst posted:

This latest stunt removed the last bit of doubt in my mind that all of this is exactly as it looks like, i. e. Britain is not preparing to exit the EU because it doesn't intent to. This garbage idiot circus means absolutely nothing and is just internal british machiavellian power struggling

I wish you're dumb rear end observation was correct but unfortunately for everyone living here it's a lot more likely she is just wasting time before we no deal.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

hakimashou posted:

It's britain so you've got to factor in a significant number of people who voted remain the first time, but will vote leave the second time because 'it won.'

That's not a 'Brit' thing, that's a humanity thing.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Agean90 posted:

the wholesale destruction of the British empire as all it's overseas holdings break off or join other nations to get off a sinking ship?

The British empire collapsed years ago you weirdos.

Jesus loving christ my council keeps trying to reduce rubbish collection to once a month and you think we have an empire. PISS.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

An insane mind posted:

Ah thank you :)

E-I do want to mention that...y'know there are quite a few large economies/traders in the EU area and the UK doesn't even beat Germany alone so I still can't really understand why you would trot it out as a way you're *beating* Europe...but maybe I'm just stupid. :(

What you're doing here is battling the absolute worst the UK has to offer in internet combat in order to make yourself look better. These people are the lowest hanging fruit.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
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Glenn Quebec posted:

Not at all Brexit but why are you Brits ruining porn for yourselves? I really cannot fathom it.

I don't know why you always assume we're in control of our government any more than any other western nation that's gone off the rails. They do what they want buddy. I mean if you really want to know this all started when an old woman whose daughter was murdered by some sex weirdo, wrote a letter to Cameron. Cameron decided this old woman was some kind of gestalt entity made up of the entire Tory base. Wanting to keep them all happy he put in motion a series of new laws that ISP's had to start policing content. Combined with 'anti-piracy' measures the UK now has a giant firewall in place waiting for the order to snap shut. So far they've decided only to soft ban porn and a arbitary selection of torrent sites.

Where is this all going and what agenda does it serve? Capitalism I assume. Somehow? Maybe they want 'top shelf mags' to become profitable again? Maybe that's what our economy will be based on.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Before Rees-Mogg leaves the country to go live in his New Zealand based mansion?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

For people who look down on Americans you sure love emulating Mississippi.

We don’t look down on Americans. You just aren’t sending your best to this thread.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

Mackers posted:

someone will remind england that their people are scum and they rely on slavery to function and at some point this will all stop

haha

Oh it's you, the guy that wants me to become a refugee because I had the misfortune to be born in the UK.

'Haha' indeed.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
"your politics are stupid" says mod of politics forum that is constantly talking about how the whole world is stupid and poo poo.

Yeah no kidding. Thanks for the update.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Randler posted:

Germany has a constitutional ban on binding referenda, so I hope that means an automatica veto to any extension.

Can you tone down your weird little kraut aggression?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
That all depends on if they've given up on 'no brexit'. The best possible outcome, ignoring this threads fetishistic lust for Brit death, is for brexit not to happen. I think the most unbelievable thing for the EU is that May's government hasn't collapsed. It really looked like it would at multiple points and i'm sure they were getting ready for better negotiations with a new government. But here we are.

The idea that the EU is already in destroy Britain mode is just a fantasy of this thread because you're all loving weird and think normal everyday people should pay the price for what Lord Smithington Smithe the IVth did in 1858.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

Use the steam catapults to hurl little sacks of rocks at Dublin and make a scary whooshing sound.

Get this: Our new carriers don't have catapults. It's why they can only use the F-35 B.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer
Well that's ominous.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer
Not like this

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer

Pook Good Mook posted:

Except even Labour is too cowardly to embrace this alternative.

The UK is hosed.

Not their mess. This will take down the Tories. There's no reason it has to take down both our parties.

Opferwurst posted:

Remain is gonna kill you, m8. At least 40% of Brits still want a brexti, Gammons are gonna howl and radicalize into Hypergammons

Our lovely policestate is quite good at stopping riots. Let them bash some right wing heads for once. It's all the same to them.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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Grimey Drawer
Oh and those reasons too.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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No Mods No Masters posted:

Source your UKMT quotes

How is that a UKMT quote?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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He's referring to the sinking of HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse. Some admirals were yet to be convinced how dangerous a few aircraft were to Battleships.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

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It was Japan.

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