Fallen Hamprince posted:

the continuing adventures of boris johnson, diplomat extraordinaire

jBrereton posted:

It isn't quite as simple as that.

The reason people are hosed off is that the communities that are the worst equipped to handle the introduction of a bunch of new people, especially other poor people, are the places where new refugees and immigrants are making their homes, because the housing is so cheap relative to the rest of the UK. You can get a terraced house in say Doncaster for like fifty grand. 20 minutes down the train line in York you're looking at five, six, times that.

But if you're stuck there because the wages aren't good enough to move out of or you've got family that can't or won't move, what you see is the only people with any energy and talent loving off asap and them being replaced with immigrants, so you basically get increasingly low-achievement white locals sharing space with like second or third generation pakistani civil war refugees, Yugoslav war refugees, gypsies who've been forced off the road, and then Eastern european guys who are nothing like the rest of the people in terms of aims, but get a house for them and a few colleagues because in relative terms it's very cheap.

And because it's the north of England, there is absolutely gently caress all being built that isn't supposed to directly benefit London, and large parts of the local government is made up of paradropped southerners because Labour doesn't respect them. To Labour, those people are The Demographics, as Democrats would say about immigrants they don't respect, have an understanding of, or do very much for, other than say their opponents are worse for them.

And all that combined has made the whole region very hostile to neoliberal politics which has hollowed out their communities, which is why they went for Brexit in a big way.

jBrereton posted:

It isn't an issue about there being space or resources, the issue is that these communities are not respected at all, which is why they are having people dumped on them, from incredibly bad + corrupt politicians to refugees. This then creates a situation where everyone wants to get out, which is why housing is more or less free if you want to have a go, which means migrant labour comes to those areas to make it even more alienating to the people living there.

Again, that isn't a failing of multiculturalism; multiculturalism is what you get in London and other well developed areas as well as poorer areas, the issue is that there isn't any money, and those places have progressively been designated as toxic areas to dump people you don't respect in, much like the very anti-multicultural suburbs of France which were positively designed to create ghettoised communities.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/Lord_Sugar/status/872557615330598916

pathetic little tramp posted:

So is May's bungled election going to actually re-ignite the Troubles?

MikeCrotch posted:

My Dad is a swivel eyed Brexiteer and has literally told me that he's doing this for my own good, i'm too young and naive to understand and i'll thank him when i'm older

hakimashou posted:

The only good thing about being British I can think of is if you become a knight or a baron or something like that.

Otherwise I guess just emigrating to the States with that accent.

The British accent is the greatest patrimony the vast majority of britons receive and they almost all squander it by not going west.

namesake posted:

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/deirdreheenan/s...ber%3D52%23pti2

Frijolero posted:

hakimashou posted:

I'm not british so I don't have a team there Helsing. I thought, and many good judges agreed with me, that corbyn was leading his party to disaster like all the polls said he was. Do me a favor and see if I've said anything really bad about him since the election would you?

Here in America I have always voted for Democrats and always will, because they are the good guys and I'm on the good guys team. Even if I found a particular candidate distasteful it wouldn't matter, because what matters is that the good guys team wins and the bad guys team loses.

Many british turned their backs on the good guys in 2010 and so all your people got these 7 years of tory rule, austerity, the Brexit, etc etc.

I'm told many british have even died as a result of the 2010 election and the disloyalty of people who switched to the lib dems.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Sanitary Naptime posted:

zombieshambles

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

jBrereton posted:

Much like that clip of Roy Moore saying "perhaps America is a great producer of evil in the world" followed straight facedly with "because of gay marriage", "the problem with the liberal elite is their education", followed by "They have been taught that capitalism is inherently bad." is one of those "yes... ah, no" things.

Jose posted:

it was a nazi supporter of rees-mogg who punched someone at that event but of course the right wing papers going on about stopping free speech won't mention that

exmarx posted:

jBrereton posted:

For one thing KFC stands for "Kingdom's Favourite Chicken" here, and in terms of sides you've got bread sauce or minty beans.

HRH Duke Sholto "Sanders" Sandringham, Leftenant Col, Grenadier Guards, also uses a unique blend of four spices here, so as not to inflame the palette.

A Handed Missus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhlRM6rYck

oliwan posted:

Jeremy is Jezza
Theresa is Tezza

...it's not very complicated.

CactusWeasle posted:

This is current as of 4 minutes ago, meaning it's probably changed already

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1109094644917374976

Sax Solo posted:

We're only making (no) plans for Brexit.