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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Shikantaza posted:

The fear is palpable and the nervous laughter won't hide it

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/869908350019829760

Theresa May go on cum town

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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

and i must meme posted:

i think sam kriss said something like feeling like his brain was made of champagne, and yeah

https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/873256588106223616

I like that aside from the champagne, the banquet of food we will all eat under Labour is dressed up paupers food. Potato, pasta (looks disguising, lol England), a slab of bread and a beef patty.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


inga awoo

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The replies to Matt Yglesias on twitter were absolutely insane. There's this bizarre notion cultivated by the centrists for years now, that outlining your political intentions equates to a promise of action in government, and that not fulfilling those intentions due to an obstructionist opposition would be breaking that promise. Therefore, you should just aim low and only campaign on what you can actually expect to get done in legislature, which is gonna be some idiotic half-measure like the ACA or raising the retirement age for social security. Centrist libs just don't get politics at all.

Obama had to compromise on healthcare so that he could continue to charge up his political capital and unleash an even more progressive kamehameha.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Byolante posted:

Part of the amerification of the english language is criticising Australians and English for using what is only a gendered slur in the US.

The only people who ever use oval office in Australia are the sort who still very much conform to traditional ideals of masculinity. It's pretty absurd to claim that it isn't a gendered insult. It's almost used exclusively to describe negative traits, even when it's not intended as an insult. We used to use 'fag/human being' in a similar context, and has fallen out of usage for obvious reasons. I imagine its usage is pretty similar over in the UK.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Byolante posted:

This is hilariously wrong and I must assume you either aren't Australian, or in the off chance you are, only socialise with inner city types.

Fag and human being are only ever used in a derogatory manner, oval office is neutral in Australian usage and requires context to determine if it was derogatory or not.

I'am. It's funny how you immediately differentiate the use of the word between social groups. It's almost as if it's got some baggage and isn't used by the more educated, professional types for a reason. You'd have to be in a fairly rough place, a tradesmen, or around teenagers a lot to ever hear the word in public. You hear gently caress, or poo poo, or bullshit far more often than oval office.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

rudatron posted:

So in other words, tut-tutting about 'oval office' is a way for upper class people to disparage lower class people

They don't disparage them because they never interact with them.

I live in a traditionally immigrant/working class area, so maybe the problem is I don't live around enough white people.

Tokamak has issued a correction as of 08:09 on Jul 14, 2017

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Byolante posted:

Ah yes, the old if only you were educated you would understand that you aren't a good person. Please tell me more about how being wealthy and conforming to wealthy people norms makes you a better person.

Yes, that's kind of how education works.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

rudatron posted:

education imparts knowledge, not 'goodness', and it's extremely dangerous and arrogant to presume that more educated = better than, if only because education is a second-order signifier for class and privilege

it's this exact blindness towards class predisposition that turns 'meritocracy' into what is essentially a plutocratic oligarchy

I agree with you. The OP was framing my argument as a moral failing of the lower classes, and I was pretty flippant in my reply. The word has a lot of baggage and if you are the sort of person who is interested in how you use language, you'd probably come to the conclusion that it isn't worth using.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Byolante posted:

Explain why ivy leagues and oxbridge turn out an overwhelming majority of nimby neolibs then because the world as it lies kinda argues against your proposition. Its almost as if words in and of themselves have no animus and that rich, well educated neolibs know exactly how to talk woke while destroying the welfare state as is happening in Germany, the UK, the US, France and Australia to name a few.

Maybe the class thing is a by product of it being a lovely word, and the ruling class has far more to gain in not using it then the average person. That doesn't reflexively make it subversive or politically powerful, it's just a lovely word. That it may or may not be an insult depending on how you use it, and that you should be careful using it to positively describe women, means that it's just not a useful word. Words fall in and out of favour all the time. In my experience I've seen the word oval office being used increasingly less.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Shut up Pissflaps

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

I should probably take Lowtax off ignore

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


good

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Party Boat posted:

How am I only now finding out that Australia has (had?) a senator called Nick Xenophon who named his political party after himself, giving them the abbreviation NXT

Xeno is also a vocal critic of Xenu.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

if corbyn is the absolute boy, mogg is the soggy boy.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Replace it with a proportionally representative senate via. a single transferable vote for maximum political handwringing.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Just stamp the papers and let the food imports in, bing bong so simple.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

skaboomizzy posted:

they already have it



extra mild, 'cool'. lmao

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Trainee PornStar posted:

In the weekly shop we stocked up on a load of tinned goods & plan to add to it over the months.
I cant see a downside to this as we have the space & will eat it anyways, if food prices do go up we'll have a reserve.

Anyone think I'm overreacting & it's a stupid idea?

Poor people do this with bulk/discounted products out of necessity.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

can't bog the mogg

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

:auspol::auspol::auspol:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


#libdemfightback

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


... why

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

looking forward to eat my brexit meal ration of rice and spam, and pasta with .

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

:staredog:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

i say swears online posted:

loving brits i swear to god

A website that extorts business owners for money to take down bad reviews is excellent diversification for a predatory lender.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Quicksilver6 posted:

I don't understand any of this and the explanations just more and more complicated and insanely bureaucratic oh god why

A lot of stuff happens when you attempt to deglobalise your economy overnight.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

If you are stocking up on Brexit ramen and have only ever had Japanese, Korean, or western instant noodles (if you are a real sicko), then you need to do yourself a favour and pick up a box of IndoMie Mi Goreng. Instead of a broth, you drain them and coat them in an addictive chilli and sweet soy sauce. You should be able to get them at Asian grocers or Amazon, and some supermarkets like Tesco will sell individual packets if you want to try them. If you like instant noodles but never had these, they'll change your life.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Jose posted:

There will be adequate food but also eat as much as you want no worries

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1093446732116049920

https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1092337678211862531

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

etalian posted:

The virgin Orange man unionist vs the chad celt

Orange Man Bad

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


I think you have to go back to the Silent Generation to find people who think kebabs are too weird and foreign. Not a good sign for the future of your paper if you are pandering to the 75+ demographic.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Irish Bart represented as a Union Jack is a bit of a self own.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

silvergoose posted:

stupid sexy UK

wait no

Mummy

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


i lost it at Mike Gapes, incredible

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Mike Gapes

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

The EU threatening to not pull the trigger on the gun that the UK is pointing at itself is perhaps the funniest way they could politically out-manoeuvre May.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Gonzo McFee posted:

Nando's was certainly a twitter meme three years ago before everyone figured out you could just get spicy chicken cheaper elsewhere. About time the meme was finally killed off by eleven of the blandest fuckers all ordering the blandest meals they could.

Nando's was a meme in the auspol thread back in the LF days.
I can understand being impressed by it if your parents didn't expose you to a wide variety of foods. It certainly is a step up flavour wise from roast chicken with stuffing.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

The last month had me starting to believe that May wasn't going to blink.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


Brexit means Brexit in all languages

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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Brits still happy to vote for a party that is tearing itself and the country apart.

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