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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Homeless Friend posted:

Talked a big game but no results! :sad:

turns out there are a lot of muslims

i admire the ambition, but if i'm going to go on a homicidal rampage i'm gonna dream big and aim to kill all ~8 billion humans

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Top City Homo posted:

u wot m8? i swer u are one cheeky oval office mate, say it to my face and not online and we'll see what happens. i swer 2 christ I'll hook you in the gabba. you better shut your mouth or im calling me homeboys rite now preparin for a proper rumble. tha rumble thatll make your nan sore jus hearin bout it. yer in proper mess ya nob head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6pps_s4K8

oy, sounds like a proper waaaagh!

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Yinlock posted:

no most nationalism is just seeing yourself as Better because you're from Place, and being from Place is an innate measure of worth

it's a disease

It's actually far more than this. It's a claim on power and loyalty, deployed for a variety of purposes by a wide range of actors, some more sympathetic than others.

All you're saying here is that you're better than people who hold bag wrong opinions and that they are automatically diseased vermin for not having the correct opinions.

It's an opinion which can only be held by someone who wants credit on the basis of holding the correct ideology but doesn't understand it or how it relates to that of others.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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See, the thing about nationalism is that it has all sorts of very good arguments against it.

But also in reality, the only form of democratic representation present is at the level of the nation.

So in effect, the criticism becomes one about democracy being bad because it leads to nationalism, which is bad. We need more trade agreements to reign this tendency in with the power of the free international market.

Hodgepodge
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rudatron posted:

what is this absolute trash

democracy is great, nationalism is trash, full communism now

democracy is something which in present day power structures exists exclusively at the level of nations

"nations" are bad, "government" is bad; that these are in fact the institutions of democracy is surely a coincidence

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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rudatron posted:

'nations' are an imaginary concept that perpetuates petty tribalistic tendencies

democracy exists today as a form of state control, with the boundaries between states being formed by arbitrary histories of inbreed royalty and dumb poo poo wars, along with some geographic barriers

states created nations, not the other way around

The state too, is a terrible thing. This was discovered conveniently as democratic control seriously threatened capital's hold on it.

Does the thought of the state owning industry terrify you? If not, why not? Is not the privatization of state owned industries not a great blow for freedom against this beast which creates and perpetuates petty tribalism?

Hodgepodge
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comedyblissoption posted:

i absolutely love that trump is making GBS threads all over the ~*decorum*~ of national politics and is helping people understand the farce it actually is

i had an epiphany the other day that what trump really means is that anything is possible

that also means actually having to face up to real politics where nationalism, socialism, communism, and fascism are all real possibilities but that's just waking up from the matrix which was actually neoliberalism all along

also i hear you can end up with some nasty jams from an outbreak of corbynism

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Jose posted:

we should nuke saudi arabia, imo

but they have the orb

first we must seize its power

Hodgepodge
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Fallen Hamprince posted:


hosed up if true

at least with bojo i can understand it as revenge against the world for being cursed with that hair

Hodgepodge
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R. Mute posted:

i too long for my legislature to finally complete its transformation into a bunch of rowdy children

you may think mps behaving like this is bad, pathetic and just another demonstration of the toxic culture of the british upper classes permeating politics

but then you'd be wrong

We have the same thing in Canada, for what it's worth.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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hakimashou posted:

He is the greatest living englishman and a living cultural treasure of the english people.

i'm getting a 'british jeb!" vibe here

Hodgepodge
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:

"you display an exceptionally poor understanding of the importance of mary within the catholic faith for a user whose screen name is in latin, methinks"

is that stuffy enough a retort:ohdear:

it's the only name for a woman he can think of that isn't tainted with sin

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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TomViolence posted:

Words like oval office and arse and whatnot didn't used to be offensive, what used to get you (sometimes literally) excoriated was blasphemy. You could say oval office all you want as long as you didn't take the lord's name in vain, but in our secular age blasphemy's been superseded by reminding folk they have vital, material bodies full of piss, poo poo and blood, which kind of reflects our unease with our tenuous and fragile existence in a newly godless universe. So really what this policing of vulgarity tells us is that we're obsessed with morbidity and disgusted by our own profane materiality, it's a very gnostic take on things when you think about it so the divine has been sort of discursively resurrected as a malevolent demiurge that we fear angering through saying bad words so really when you think about it, South park was right all along.

'swounds!

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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oval office loses some of its power when you have lively slang like 'gash' to slur with instead

also it was a genuine term of endearment in the victorian era or something?

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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wikipedia posted:

However, in Chaucer's usage there seems to be an overlap between the words "oval office" and "quaint" (possibly derived from the Latin for "known"). "Quaint" was probably pronounced in Middle English in much the same way as "oval office". It is sometimes unclear whether the two words were thought of as distinct from one another. Elsewhere in Chaucer's work the word queynte seems to be used with meaning comparable to the modern "quaint" (curious or old-fashioned, but nevertheless appealing).


...huh

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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i mean cuck is traditionally aimed at men but also insults one in a sexualized but technically non-gendered manner making it a

Hodgepodge
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Captain_Maclaine posted:

It's an accusation of sexual inadequacy, with heavy implications that the target is a failure as a man (as real men keep their women satisfied and thus loyal).

More pragmatically, it gets tossed around for the same reasons and by the same people who, ten years ago or so, would still be calling everyone fags.

yeah but in this context implying that a woman requires and deserves sexual pleasure rather than insulting masculinity by denigrating gay men is 'progress'

even if the contextual implication is that an unsatisfied woman will seek out black men for sexual pleasure which is all sorts of 'problematic'

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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also it rhymes with duck which has pleasing intersection with various c-spam avatars which i think we can all agree is veryt important

Hodgepodge
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hakimashou posted:

It wouldn't have made a difference. Britain blaming itself for iraq is vanity.

Plus the UK kind of owes the US support in these kind of things.

Blair should be forgiven, he just did what he had to do, the blame rests on GW Bush and his people.

turns out you can choose to participate in an american war or not

like canada didn't go to iraq but was in afganistan (which while not a great idea was way more understandable than iraq)

but you see tony blair was actually really into the whole iraq thing which is why people blame him for britain participating; funny how he made a decision and now he's accountable for that

Hodgepodge
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hakimashou posted:

How's he accountable? Isn't it just people mouthing off at him?

it is people taking his decisions into account when considering the value of his opinion, which may include mouthing off at him

would you like me to explain any other basic elements of social behaviour to you?

Hodgepodge
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Dreylad posted:

has there ever been a good expose on the conduct of canadian mining companies? I feel like there was but it probably needs to be updated or needs more exposure

I'd really like to read anything goons happen to have handy on this subject.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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my god corbyn saving britain from brexit would be so delicious on a buffet of different levels

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Hodgepodge
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Peel posted:

lol if you trudge through lovely posts because ignoring them would betray your Sacred Posting Honour

if i skipped every lovely post i would have nothing to read and would also not post

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