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Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

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Groovelord Neato posted:

laci green's defense of her moron bf looks dumber by the day.



behold. the dumbest take in the history of mankind.

Hmm, the sjws started calling people Nazis right around when Nazis started showing up publicly. Don't worry though, this doesn't make the sjws correct, but actually even more wrong than before!

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Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

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BigRed0427 posted:

Go Daddy is kicking The Daily Stormer off their hosting in 24 hours. Let the Free speech takes roll in!

And apparently Anonymous is DDoSing other white nationalist sites. Some Anon posts on twitter is saying this might be a false flag thing though.

What, like the sites taking themselves down and saying they've been ddosed? Because I don't think it's possible to pretend to be Anonymous.

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May 24, 2012

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ChaseSP posted:

I honestly have to wonder what the gently caress Sargon thinks the left should be considering he seems to mostly rant about feminism and immigrants.

Nonexistent? Like, if you asked me what a good right winger would look like, and stopped me from making a hockey joke, I'd be pretty stumped too.

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May 24, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Blair is apparently a libertarian icon now or something, which is hilarious considering that when he was actually in power the narrative was "crazy New Labour passes 50 new prohibitions a day, bans squirrels!"

Aren't they supposed to be anti-war? War and weed are supposed to be their selling points to liberals.

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May 24, 2012

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landgrabber posted:

this is a galaxy level brain post right here


I can't tell if this is :thejoke: or not, but they probably mean libertarian socialism. There's a certain faction of anarchists who really want their word back.

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May 24, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

I'm thinking just eminent domain a bit of land somewhere, and anyone who wants to live in honkeyland is welcome to emigrate. Make it purely voluntary free association. I think it'll self select quite nicely.

Isn't this just Idaho? I thought this was the actual plan some faction of them had.

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May 24, 2012

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rkajdi posted:

There's zero good reason for it, since it's just used as an excuse to segment out people who don't look, pray, or gently caress like the whatever passes for the masses. All the anti-state stuff seems destined to create white worker's paradises, which are poo poo in every way possible.

I was told by an anarchist that during the Russian Revolution, the (anarcho-communist) Free Territory was one of only like two factions not to do some pogrom-ing on the side, and the only one to actually punish people for doing pogroms. I admit though, it wasn't an unbiased source, and I have no citations.

And it is worth noting that the kinda sorta anarchists in Rojava are probably the most tolerant of the factions in the Syrian civil war. Not exactly a high bar to clear, but it's still something.

Rumda posted:

Modern satire is impossible.

That's why I'm not really a fan of Contra's debate videos. There's no real difference between listening to a reenactment of stupid opinions and listening to the actual stupids themselves.

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May 24, 2012

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Pembroke Fuse posted:

For me, Manga/Anime has had a weird transformation. When I started reading/watching it in the late 90's and early 00's, it seemed like a more progressive genre willing to explore adult situations, female empowerment (of sorts), different sexualities (when I was a teen I didn't realize that hot lesbians didn't count) and subject matters that seemed outside of the western norm. In 2017 it seems like the exact opposite, with western cartoons/comics pushing the boundaries (even stuff like Steven Universe is super transgressive in many ways), while Anime/Manga languishes in a sludge of ancient and lovely stereotypes of fanservice, titninjas and tired AF tropes.

A number of western cartoons were boundary-pushing and transgressive in the 90s as well, at least on TV. Looking back, it's surprising things like Rocko's Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy were ever allowed to exist by the studio heads.

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May 24, 2012

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Pembroke Fuse posted:

gently caress Hetalia. It's such a lovely series that turned some of the most horrific incidents in recent human history into slapfights between bishies.

You'd need Cronenberg to do some of the events of WWII justice in that format. The Nazis and Soviets ripped Poland in half and fought over the remains, do they depict that literally? How about Vichy France as a half-eaten zombie, trying to fight the Allied Magical Girls or whateverthefuck as its own organs rebel against it? You'd have to get dark with it.

I'm going to guess that isn't what they did.

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May 24, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

Part of me wants to start a youtube channel, shave my hair into a big freddie mercury, put on a leather vest and rant incoherently about how great communism is.

I could call myself the soviet bear.

YouTube entryism, I like it. I'm curious about which companies would advertise on videos calling for their own destruction though.

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May 24, 2012

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business hammocks posted:

Is there an ancap position on circumcision?

Did a quick search on ancap wonderland mises.org. After filtering out arguments in article comments and repeated instances of people quoting Ludwig von Mises making GBS threads on Islam and Judaism generally, this... thing is your best bet for Certified Ancap Circumcision Advice. Open an incognito window and learn you some freedom.

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May 24, 2012

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It's always interesting to find the one guy who wasn't using code words when everyone else drops the mask. It reminds me of when David Icke ended up going on a white nationalist radio show. It took a couple minutes for everyone to figure out they didn't all mean the same thing by "lizard people."

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May 24, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Also 'aggression' means immediate subjective violence only, i.e. violence committed directly by an identifiable actor. I punch you, I steal your property, I detain you without your consent. It makes no allowance for indirect violence, like I put up a series of billboards declaring your ethnic group to be witches and pedophiles, and so someone burns down your house. The arsonist is the only one that violated the NAP, I merely exercised my freedom of speech and purchased advertising space for an agreed upon value with the owner, the arsonist should have done more research first.

This extends to the point that some ancaps defend hiring a hitman as not being a violation, because you personally didn't do anything to hurt that guy, the person you hired did.

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May 24, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

I dunno, given the amount of UK procedure that is just customs and practice, it wouldn't surprise me if she just claimed she owned it without contest for so long that she's effectively invoking squatters' rights.

I mean, human settlement basically everywhere on the planet predates any concept of individual property rights, so if some place wasn't claimed by right of conquest in the modern era, that's pretty much how it has to work.

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May 24, 2012

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Lovechop posted:

no but tons of other youtubers live here and i can assure you that they are the worst people alive

Oh god, are they congregating in one place now? Is there a Hollywood of youtubers?

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May 24, 2012

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business hammocks posted:

Is talk radio at least dying or dead? I hate that youtube has become a haven to these shits, but does anyone still listen to the old sewer pipe?

I can't imagine many pepes do.

I tried to look up demographics, but "talk radio" seems to lump sports and morning zoo stuff in with the politicos, so it's hard to tell.

Lovechop posted:

i recommend seeing this through to the end just to see the completely hosed up world view of a sociopath fall to pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaRfhchKKGI

yuck

I'm guessing there's a "how to put your interviewer on the defensive" guide that this guy is trying to follow? He's not very good at it though.

:eng101: "Hey, what's up?"
:hitler: "You don't have to yell, dude."

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May 24, 2012

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

i am always amused how Marxism= things on/from the left/liberal spectrum i hate.

This is a country where the big self-proclaimed socialist presidential candidate never mentioned the means of production in his campaign. Words are feelings, nothing more.

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May 24, 2012

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Physics also has a history of giant paradigm shifts where everyone before them was wrong, regardless of how smart they were. Gives you a bit of perspective.

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May 24, 2012

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It's all external links, but it's for Patreon. If they'd just singled out patreon.com links, everyone would just use url shorteners.

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May 24, 2012

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notaspy posted:

There was a youtuber called Garrett who was good, what happened to him? His channel and Twitter are gone.

Did it turn out he was a wrong'en or something?

Someone asked the same thing a little while ago

it shaun posted:

I don't know too much but Garrett is taking an indefinite amount of time off for personal reasons. Think he's struggling with some things in his personal life

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May 24, 2012

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BigRed0427 posted:

How about a thread on the politics of social media platforms?

Ideologues on Social Media

somekindofguy posted:

You care, you lose libturds. That's how it works. All robot or nothing.

Having had these kinds of talks in real life, going Socratic is a solid option. Boy howdy do they not like being asked questions about why they think the way they do.

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May 24, 2012

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Groovelord Neato posted:

i remember during the travyon martin case people kept sharing a picture of rapper the game (who's a big dude covered in tattoos including his face) and saying that's what travyon looked like. one person did that to me and i got mad so i looked up the actual death picture of trayvon to show them what he actually looked like.

also gently caress that person for saying tamir "pulled a gun" on a cop. he was 12 and he was already playing with the toy gun. the cop blasted him before his car even came to a complete stop holy poo poo.

Wasn't it also allegedly tucked in his waistband? I seem to remember the police's own story boiling down to "we ordered a child to drop something he wasn't even holding, and then shot him when he reached for it."

Discendo Vox posted:

Agreed, it's especially effective on the irony/satire/"memeing" line.

It's also how I got a coworker to start ranting about Secret Black People Welfare one time! It is a fun game.

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May 24, 2012

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Pembroke Fuse posted:

Any interesting/detailed examples of this?

Basically any example is going to sound like stdh.txt, but the basic idea is to act well meaning but confused, and make them be the one to point out the bigotry directly. If someone tells a racist joke, instead of calling them out for being racist, act like you don't get it and ask them to explain it. The joke might revolve around the idea that black people are lazy, but they most likely won't want to say "it's funny, because black people are lazy" out loud.

These things mostly work in every day conversations, rather than formal debates like the "Sargon vs random liberal" thing.

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May 24, 2012

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Groovelord Neato posted:

it was odd how silent the nra was after the murder of philando castile. wonder why that was.

You have the right to keep and bear arms, and the police have the right to straight up murder you if they think you might be exercising that right. Provided you're a certain kind of person, of course.

nickmeister posted:

Has anyone hear ever listened to the Dogma Debate? It's an atheist-type podcast that's been around for may seven or eight years. Anyone, the host David Smalley used to avoid social justice issues, at least on his podcast, for the most part. But it seems like Trump's taking office has turned him into one of those "I'm not a conservative, but doesn't the 'far-left' suck?" types:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dogmadebate/2017/10/left-killing-language/

Just some choice quotes here. Kinda disappointing since I used to really like his blog. But then again, when the Sandy Hook shooting occurred, he actually took the "it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun" line seriously and actually used it to defend gun rights in the show after the tragedy. So I guess maybe I was expecting too much?

A huge chunk of the nu-atheist crowd sank into the abyss in the past few years. All it took was for the conservative movement to stop being quite so explicitly Evangelical Christian, and they hopped on board right next to the people they cut their chops mocking.

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May 24, 2012

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I feel like a big chunk of it comes from the fact that they never had to come up with their own arguments in the religious debates. Most of them just borrowed points from previous (better) thinkers, or intuitively noticed bad arguments, so they never actually learned the critical thinking skills they should have been developing. Then another set of arguments runs afoul of their intuitions, but this time it's due to their own privilege rather than the argument being flawed. They're not prepared to critically engage with the argument or examine their own biases, but they are prepared to echo each other's arguments and drop sick logic burns, so they go with the path they've always known.

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Reveilled posted:

I don't know how the hell you can all be so wrong about who the best food reviewer on Youtube is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_1g5FVYAc

He noted that the chicken burger "didn't even have burger sauce." What is burger sauce

this is important

Pembroke Fuse posted:

I knew a lot of computer engineers who were "self made" dipshits, but didn't see them sliding into Nazism so quickly. Not sure about the S and M portions of STEM though. Scientists usually have some kind of understanding of social dependency (standing on the soldier of giants, etc) and Medicine requires at least a tiny amount of empathy.

Enough science folks rely on grants that full blown ancapism is a bit rarer, but I've still run into plenty of libertarians and other general shitheads. Maybe it's a bit better in the social sciences, but I'm not sure if they're allowed into the STEM clubhouse. Too many women s-jews.

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May 24, 2012

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Groovelord Neato posted:

[incredibly darth vader at the end of episode iii voice] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Don't trust the suits" rule remains in effect.

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May 24, 2012

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Groovelord Neato posted:

the head of the sa was very very gay as were most if not all of his chiefs.

Which worked out about as well for him as it would for Milo in a triumphant alt-right scenario.

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May 24, 2012

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felat posted:

Which is why I thought Milo would be more careful, but then again he's dumb as gently caress judging by the leaked poo poo.

OwlFancier got it right. Nazism precludes having a clue.

e: I'm actually curious if anyone's actually asked Milo what he thinks about Ernst Rohm. Not curious enough to watch the little poo poo speak or anything, just idly wondering.

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

he kinda broke. girlfriend used him and threw him away and his mental problems got worse and worse and his patreon is in like double digits now(it used to be like in the high hundreds) he became a weird rear end in a top hat and starts fights on twitter all day.

Yeah I remember one of his midnight release review streams quickly descending into him getting extremely drunk and just sobbing about his girlfriend leaving and his life falling apart. It was one of those "am I enabling something by watching this channel" situations. :smith:

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May 24, 2012

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I could see him trying to suicide-by-cop and managing to just get arrested instead.

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Glazier posted:

Here's a handy trick I use, is it a white guy? If yes, then do some research before subscribing.

Fortunately PrimitiveTechnology knows better than to ever speak on camera, so I hope we'll be free from any weird outbursts on at least one white guy's channel.

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Huzanko posted:

At some point he'll be building a primitive something or other while wearing a MAGA hat.

I don't think anything involving wearing clothes is very likely either.

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May 24, 2012

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Gonna be honest here, Sam Hyde is a new name to me. What's his deal?

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Discendo Vox posted:

This...might be the most uneven text I've ever read. Some parts are highly diagnostic of the precise internal mental world of people in the alt-right, but a lot of it is profoundly, horrifyingly ignorant. The philosopher who wrote the intro does a good job of emphasizing "sartre did no research before writing this text".

From what I've seen, this is basically satre.txt. Got a link to the essay and intro by any chance? Or is this one of them "books" I've heard so much about

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Discendo Vox posted:

He's an alt-right racist "video prankster" who successfully got into Adult Swim's roster thanks to their drive for transgressive stoner humor. Hides heavily behind the usual "post-irony", "alt-comedy" and "performance artist" titles. Thankfully the company woke up, realized what was going on and appear to be cleaning house.

Yardbomb posted:

"In 2017, Hyde reportedly pledged $5,000 towards Andrew Anglin's, the founder and editor of The Daily Stormer, legal defense fund. The Southern Poverty Law Center sued Anglin for allegedly organizing a "troll storm" against a Jewish woman in Montana. When Matt Pearce of the Los Angeles Times questioned Hyde about the donation, Hyde asked Pearce if he was Jewish and went on to say that $5,000 "was nothing" to him."

They're also just a general dumbass.

Failing upwards, supporting open white supremacists behind the scenes, accusing anyone who questions him of being Jewish? Basically the ISO standard totally-not-Nazi then.

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May 24, 2012

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Differing opinions is one thing. I can talk with anarchists and marxists and progressive liberals because they all fundamentally agree that everyone is deserving of basic respect and dignity, they just disagree on the way to do that. But even saying nothing about straight up Nazis, modern conservatism demands, is built around, getting to pick and choose who deserves respect and dignity and who doesn't. That's not differing opinions, that's a fundamental rejection of basic morality. How do you get chummy with someone once they've crossed that line?

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Or in some cases, arguing that X is a good thing. They don't deny that the police shot Tamir Rice, they argue that he deserved it.

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OwlFancier posted:

To be honest I wholly reject the concept of tolerance as a virtue.

Tolerance is what you do when you have to. When you lack the ability to change something right this minute.

But the application of it to social issues is loving stupid. No you shouldn't tolerate people of other races, or other sexualities, or other nationalities, you should not have to tolerate them, because you should see nothing wrong with them to begin with and not have a drive to change them. Promoting tolerance is conceding that it's fine to want to eliminate those things as long as you don't act on it. And gently caress no it isn't fine. And it certainly isn't virtuous to set out with the idiotic belief that not acting when you feel it is vital to act, is a good thing. To set out with the intent of going up to abhorrent people and saying "hey, I know you think that black people are inherently inferior but I'm sure we can have a conversation like polite upstanding adults"

That's loving stupidity and culpability, not virtue.

I'm with you almost all the way. Except that I also dislike the idea of "virtue." Consequentialism forever woooo

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Okay, we're cool then.

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