Monglo posted:

It probably means the generic "woke". Taking the red pill refers to Neo being revealed reality for what it is, for MRA guys it's seeing the tendrils of Matriarchy,
for her it's probably seeing how toxic the cultural marxists and liberal regressive are.

Low Desert Punk posted:

https://youtu.be/YIi1bjl_iqE

People think that the fella that makes colonial American food on YouTube made a Trump diss, and he sure is angry about it

Voyager I posted:

The problem is that withholding your support in this system means you get the greater of two evils instead.

It's not a great system, but until we make a better one you aren't helping yourself by being too cool for the rules.

Rugoberta Munchu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSgJi3_RAJg

JVNO posted:

Then let's talk Laci Green and her disingenuous refusal to acknowledge her new demographic of supporters will abandon her as soon as they realize she's still a 'feminist'.

Like, the interest in her among the alt-right/antifeminists seems to begin and end with, 'we can convert her fully!' She's a darling now, because in their mind she makes them look like the reasonable ones for engaging in discussion... But give it a few more months and a few more times asserting 'gender and sex are different' and 'the wage gap is real!'. I don't think they'll be sticking around once the novelty wears off, unless she goes full Honey Badger or something.

Or maybe she will stick around as 'one of the good ones' to 'prove' antis aren't above debate or something.

BigRed0427 posted:

I hope so.

I do agree with Contra that you need to be willing to defend your ideas against people who disagree with you in a civil tone.

But that idea hits a wall when you are dealing with people like White and Sargon. They do not give a gently caress about what ever you have to say because their world view is the correct one, how dare you say otherwise. Or worse is guys like Bearing and sides who post on Kiwifarms who find the idea of trans people and not conforming to beauty standards of porn, real or hentai to be funny. After a point, a lot of trans people just go into immediate "gently caress you" mode when people ask them questions.

Lemniscate Blue posted:

I can't figure out what he thinks happened in 1965.

*SLUUUUURP*

Jippa posted:

There is a german word for when you are embarrassed for other people.

Midig posted:

Maybe we can win the meme wars if we outpay The pepes for Big Man Tyrone content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F7-iLrYn9A

EDIT:

One issue, if Big Man Tyrone was going to explain gender issues it would be difficult to make it last for only five minutes.

Not So Fast posted:

That's weird, because she's gone full on TERF on her Twitter.

WampaLord posted:

Even then, she is wrong. People can be born intersex, or XXY or XYY, etc.

Lovechop posted:

people are being mean to contra i'm PISSED

Rugoberta Munchu posted:

Despite which side Milo is on, noted "race scholar" The White Rose claims it's *the left* normalizing pedophilia before immediately saying in the Twitter replies that it's cool to bone 12 year olds if they got their periods because of European tradition.

https://twitter.com/imthewhiterose/status/883064838192320512

business hammocks posted:

Let's hope they get way more vocal in their alt-right support in the coming months.

Zedd posted:

So these last pages have been terrible, and apparently Laci is going full on TERF.
At the rate she is going lets see how long the F part lasts.

I hope Contra is okay, (s)he seems to be struggling recently and that debate can't have been fun for.

Edit: amazing way to start a page.

OwlFancier posted:

To be more charitable than perhaps may be merited, I understand they believe that owing to the fact that transwomen have appeared, or may currently appear male to outside observers, they are the recipients of male privilege and thus their current position in life is as a result of that privilege, making them fundamentally, not women, as women are people who do not experience male privilege. They have not truly lived as women because they were not born being recognized as women by society and thus do not possess the experiences that women who were, do.

It... maybe slightly halfway makes a iota of sense if you tilt your head and accept that agonizing specific definition of "woman" but I find it to be painfully reductive given that I think it projects an excessively uniform experience on both trans and cis women and blatantly ignores the enormous disadvantage transpeople are at as a result of their status and frankly a lot of its proponents don't tend to give a poo poo about transpeople even from that perspective despite it being not even remotely contingent on believe that transwomen are "real women", they still patently suffer for their status and should still elicit empathy from someone who, as a feminist, should be excruciatingly aware of the damage that prejudice can do. But instead they trend towards just being basically transphobic and functionally indistinguishable from any other transphobe, whatever their reasoning.

It's irritating because there are some otherwise worthwhile feminists out there who just refuse to budge on that point so anyone coming at it from a third wave all-inclusive kind of perspective tends to end up having screaming fits with them because it's really annoying when it's coming from someone you should agree with. Like if you meet an ardent socialist who refuses to acknowledge racism because it isn't part of the economic class war.

Genocyber posted:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck TERFs.

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I want you to understand something: you are a garbage person. Even if you're trolling, you are a garbage person. To even ironically defend Sargon, who laughed while Kristi described a rape scenario during their debate, and he, when asked what analytical framework would replace feminism, said "I don't know, I don't care." He is not interested in constructive dialogue. His is a misogynist and a racist (see the support from the EDL).

You defending this man in any capacity allies you with a man who found rape funny.

Chasterson posted:

lol, look at this white knight.

protecting all the youtubers from being called racists.

Guavanaut posted:

Everyone is. It's a consequence of developing in a highly radicalized society. The trick is to recognize that as a bad thing and to seek to reduce both personal and systemic biases rather than use it as an excuse for garbage humans being racist.

Mr Interweb posted:

It's funny to see the same people who attack the idea of college (and really education in general) brag about how high their IQ's supposedly are.

WampaLord posted:

Ytlaya posted:

I get the impression Laci Greene is generally well intentioned but not particularly bright. She strikes me as more of a Joe Rogan sort of figure than someone who has (or is likely to gain) any actual commitment towards the more bigoted ideology of the alt-right (I think someone else made this comparison). She seems like the sort of person who will agree with just about anything provided you state it in a friendly tone and doesn't enjoy having strong disagreements with people.

So in short, she isn't good but she also isn't likely to become too openly noxious (though her sort of permissive attitude is harmful in its own way).

Jethro posted:

The right basically believes they are the same and that your gender (which is the same as your sex) is totally defined by your X/Y chromosomes (as indicated by your external genitalia sometime before birth).

Academically, the idea was that sex and gender were separate things (though obviously there is often a good deal of correlation between them).

In some of the lefty circles I run in, I have seen (I think) the idea that talking about sex and gender as separate things serves as a way to exclude trans people, and even mentioning "biological sex" is basically just giving ammunition to TERFs and Christianist Culture Warriors.

Jethro posted:

Undergoing hormone therapy.

Mr Interweb posted:

This Bearing guy seems like a class-A shitheel as well. He was "debating" some lefty youtuber, and was the most rude, douchey and foul dipshit I've seen from the Rationals.

Kibayasu posted:

The Taiwan joke level of video animation is certainly a gimmick I haven't seen before.

business hammocks posted:

Some of them are so stupid and self-defeating that they're fun to watch. Carl is just poo poo for the most part. Also he's a 40-year-old high-school dropout if you haven't heard.

Mr Interweb posted:

If so, then I don't think he went to Uni. When he was being interviewed by Maddox and they brought that up, he kind of looked uncomfortable and almost ashamed when he admitted that he dropped out of high school.

Dreylad posted:

once again i apologize for the fact that canada seems to have produced a disproportionate amount of race realists...

Ytlaya posted:

Yeah, as I've said before Carl isn't just dumb in a "bad opinions" way, but he actually comes off as being genuinely stupid in an "ability to reason and solve problems" sense. But a bunch of young Americans hear him and think "so fuckin intellectual man..." because of his accent.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

New Contra is out and hits so close to home I wanna curl up in a ball and not exist.

Jippa posted:

He bullies people for money essentially.