Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Toshimo posted:

If I could impart any bit of wisdom to Goons it would be this: Never... EVER... play Sgt. Hammer.

Every time I see a Goon swap to Hammer, I am tempted to drop group and solo queue. They always feed all game and produce nothing. Without fail.

Much as I like Hammer, I think she is showing her age and I don't feel like there are really any good opportunities to pick her. But that being said, I don't know that there's much they could do to fix her problems without making her an entirely different character. Turning yourself immobile but still needing to be near the front is kind of a big issue with inevitable mobility creep, it turns out.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Bruceski posted:

Oh great, looks like we've got a carry. :jerkbag:

I would pay a lot of money to have :jerkbag: as an in game emote and spray.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Insert name here posted:

I bought the Dva heroic bundle for the Goliath skins

She does not shout "Goliath Online" when you call one in from pilot mode 0/10 would not buy again

Burn down this sinful world.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Kanos posted:

D.Va is strange. I don't think she's awful like I've seen people raving about, but she's definitely not blow-your-socks-off either. I've quite enjoyed the games I've played with her and she can do some cool stuff re: area denial with self destruct and juggling her two forms' life bars, but never have I felt like she was bringing something to the team that another hero wouldn't do better; if I'm looking for a second bruiser(because that's realistically the only slot she can fill), it's really hard to ever consider her over Sonya, Varian, Dehaka, etc.

She's got some really big problems with her mech form that I think boil down to them being way too conservative with her numbers.
  • Why the gently caress does she have a movement speed malus? The only reason I can think of is that they were afraid of move-and-fire ranged attacks on a character that didn't have brittle bone disease, but her auto attacks are effectively melee range and do piss damage. Her poo poo movement speed means moving between fights loving sucks because you often need to choose between getting to a fight on time and having boosters on CD or not, and it makes positioning Defense Matrix on the heroes that matter quite awful.
  • Her mech damage is an absolute joke for fighting heroes. I get that the gimmick is that mech form = disruption and pilot form = damage, but the mech form loses its ability to bully once people begin to realize that almost anyone can trade blows with her and come out even or ahead. Diving into a support and bullying them away from a fight seems like something she should naturally be great at, but most decent supports can simply throw a heal on themselves and then bust her chops unassisted.
  • Self-Destruct and her mode switches are her defining identity as a hero but it takes an absolute eternity to charge, even when actively fighting on a consistent basis, and this effectively means she's playing large segments of the game with only two abilities. This is super, duper bad.

It seems like maybe they wanted her tanking waves and towers with a pocket healer to get her self destruct up, but there are much better uses for a pocket healer. And yeah as someone mentioned earlier her pilot form has no real stutter step ability.

Obviously day 1 though, so there is no doubt something we are missing. Detonate charge does take way too long to build, though. Isn't it just over 3 minutes of straight attacking to build it back up if you don't get charge from damage taken?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Poultron posted:

He definitely needed some downward adjustment, but nerfing the only reason he was ever picked up was probably a mistake

I mean if he was only picked for one reason that is kind of a separate problem.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

I wish the safety cooldown for Boosters wasn't one loving second when the whole thing lasts two seconds. I take Nitro a lot and frequently I just want to slam the accelerator and knock a bunch of people back then cancel immediately, but because the cooldown is one second I end up doing one or two spins before I can cancel out of the booster and resume shooting/matrixing.

Half a second is sufficient to stop the people with fat fingers from accidental cancels while giving you more control over the mech's boosters.

Yes that absolutely needs to be changed. There's no good reason to have to do donyts to wait out the double tap period.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Also don't hearth in obvious places like near a fort if the other team has an Azmodan or Chromie or Tyrande. They'll be looking for snipes like that.

chumbler fucked around with this message at 22:34 on May 17, 2017

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

You can surprise a squishy caster with no escape like Jaina or Chromie but it's not really something you should be doing since she most excels at breaking up groups. Her level 20 evolution to Bunny Hop puts out a pretty scary amount of damage to heroes and structures.


That's why I always take Rush-down at tier 1. Having boosters on a 5-sec cooldown helps out her mobility so much when getting to objectives + team fights.

I think I read that someone found that nitrous was almost the same as the short cooldown talent in terms of total distance traveled or something along those lines. I might be mistaken, though.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

NeurosisHead posted:

I haven't played since she was added, what is she?

She's a uhhh.....

Seems to be the opinions I've seen. Which don't get me wrong, having not easily classified roles for characters is good (provided they don't make more Varians).

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Cuntellectual posted:

All those doritos and mountain dew wreak havoc on the waistline, sorry duder you waifu is fat.

What if it's diet dee and baked doritos?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Wouldn't a "proper" payload map only have one at a time and you have to punch through the enemy team in the allotted time?

I assume they wouldn't want to do that because it would lead to the game snowballing badly after the first one, like old haunted mines.

If one of Hanamura's many issues is forts being too valuable, maybe rather than instant damage amp they just spawn a one time payload that can be escorted, to still require a bit more investment.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Don't defend all heroes not being free.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

The alternative is all heroes being free. Whether any individual player can get good with or even like to play all of them is completely irrelevant.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

By the way, anyone not using Gazlowe announcer is literally the worst player in the game. Maybe even in any game.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Hoodie Thrall is good, though the recolors suck.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Hot drat they finally did it, the maniacs. Maybe in three more years they'll give bonercum king a second button again

If they ever give the bonerlord (may he rest in peace) a second button then the game will be truly dead.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Braxis cannot be the worst map as long as Garden Terror and Blackheart's Bay exist.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Gazlowe is definitely the untouchable champion announcer possibly until Alarak or Li Ming, but Tychus and Hammer are also good. Johanna would probably also be a good one, and Zoltun Kulle if they ever make him.

chumbler fucked around with this message at 07:48 on May 24, 2017

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Everyone just has very personalty when you play them too. Even Dva manages to be flatter

Well obviously she doesn't respect mobas and puts in little effort.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

Honestly you should be able to cancel out of draft without penalty if the rest of your team picks 4 assassins and insists on wasting your time for the next 30 minutes.

And so a draft game never started again.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

If you're winning it's because your opponents are bad. Moba 101.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Cuntellectual posted:

I hope the StarCraft reaper gets in before OW Reaper.

I'd rather see a SC reaper skin for Valla. Muradin's SC skin turned out cool.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Eraflure posted:

Oh boy I get to play on Hanamura AND Blackheart? Thanks Blizzard.

At least Garden Terror isn't in this rotation. I think.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Replace all maps with Towers of Doom and maybe Warhead Junction for special occasions.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Tender Bender posted:

Velen, the Draenei are back baby

Who are we kidding it's gonna be loving anduin

Maybe it'll be someone actually cool, like Tyrande again.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

It's so obviously Anduin. Both Wrynns are Multiclass.

They are also both dumb garbage, so it checks out.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

The Shortest Path posted:

Grom is basically already in the game (in his WC3 incarnation anyway) as Samuro, kinda. But Maiev would be fuckin awesome.

Please don't insult my friend Grom like that. But yeah, Maiev would also be cool.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SirSamVimes posted:

No, the core replacement hero needs to be Ner'zhul in the Frozen Throne.

Literally his only ability is All Chat.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Personally I think Ragnaros is just kind of boring to play aside from the meatball. Mediocre stats just make that all feel even worse. Also how did they screw up his alternate colors so bad? Like were green and blue that hard that they had to go with either more red or piss?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

AlmightyBob posted:

ketchup fountain ragnaros



I feel ill just looking at that. And then I think about what it must sound like.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Power Bottom posted:

There are a lot of people who don't know who Xena is. I guess it's a cultural thing.

There are teens playing the game now who were born after Xena ended.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Coolness Averted posted:

There are teens playing now who only know Diablo from Diablo 3.

Man I didn't realize that LoD came out 16 years ago. I feel even older now.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Power Bottom posted:

The Summer Loot Chests are definitely going to have unique contents, and they will definitely be tied to the Summer event in some form. Looking at the data, you'll be able to buy them in the same quantities that you can normal Loot chests (I.E. up to 52). The only thing I'm not for-sure on is if they'll completely replace normal Loot Chests' availability during the Summer event, or if they'll be separate.

Which one would make Blizzard more money?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Kai Tave posted:

It's pretty incredible how Blizzard constantly finds ways to make their lootbox systems differently lovely between games. HotS was actually doing halfway decent on that score but then they had to go and introduce the "seasonal-but-no-guarantees-you'll-get-seasonal-items" lootbox and here we are.

It's almost like loot boxes are designed to be awful. Like it's their purpose.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Massive shove is the best skill in the game and I will be sad when it is immediately nerfed.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Sensual Simian posted:

I will always pick the 3x sweep ult because fun is the devil.

You're a monster.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Alpha Mayo posted:

What happens to the Summer event items when the event ends? Will you still be able to craft them with shards, or do they go entirely away?

Which option do you think will make them more money and they have literally already done in another game?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

bamhand posted:

It's likely that he will drop to 1600 in a couple weeks if you want to save the shards.

But do you want to take the risk that he instead disappears instead of a price drop?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

comatose posted:

Surely theres a middle ground between the two? Yeah the overwatch boxes are jammed with filler but they do feel like they're part of the event. With the hots summer event I've probably opened 15 boxes and gotten nothing event related except one of the epic tychus skins and a legendary. It was a dva skin. I think I'm just salty and unlucky.

Instead of seeking a middle ground between two bad options, you should advocate for an actually good option.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Yardbomb posted:

If we're gonna keep getting them, just give me Mercy so we can finally take old Morales out behind the shed.

I'd rather they make decent heroes, rather than Morales and Morales 2. Mercy is already a terrible enough blight on Overwatch.

Fire anyone who made Mercy and anyone who likes Mercy into the sun, is my point here.

chumbler fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Sep 16, 2017

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply