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Got genji and oni skin lootboxes good
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Apr 25, 2017 23:42
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Man, genji is fun but he really doesn't do enough damage to do much that's useful. He is great chasing down kills if your team can manage 4v5, and occasionally you can hit someone with a triple q for decent damage or some idiot will give you a perfect deflect opportunity, but I don't know that I'd even consider him for anything outside QM. Dragon blade feels unwieldy and horrible
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Apr 26, 2017 11:35
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SKULL.GIF posted:Dragonblade is almost certainly going to get nerfed. It does so much massively more damage than X-Strike, it's easier to hit, it's less mana, kills with it reset Swift Strike.... I've yet to see a genji do even halfway decent with dragonblade. It's almost always X Strike/Shuriken build that does decent. Dragonblade is okay if you go all in on the swift strike build, but it still feels clunky and terrible to me.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:08
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Genji v Li Ming is so disgustingly in Genji's favor so it's even funnier.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:02
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:I got her out of a loot box and I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would. Lightning ball ult is just really fun to use. There are two builds I tend to go. If I'm against a team that doesn't have a lot of autoattacking, I'll go a Q build with pretty much every javelin based skill (and ring of the leech) and hang back throwing tons and tons of piercing, splitting, javelins of death. If they are heavy on autoattackers, take the skills to increase your blind damage and your fend skill. There is something to be said for the auto-attack skill but I am not good at using it properly.
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Apr 26, 2017 17:05
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Oxyclean posted:I pressed the voice line button as Cassia the other day and it was playing Samuro lines. Anyone else run into that? I don't see the problem with this.
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Apr 26, 2017 18:37
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Hi who wants Genji talk from someone who has exclusively played Genji for a few days. Level 1: I find myself almost always taking Swift as the Wind. Part of staying alive as Genji is being mobile and weaving in and out of combat scenarios, and this talent I think does it best. It helps you when you go in, and when you escape, with no real setup required. You could make an argument for Agile Dismount on big maps with a lot of roaming, which I've taken a few times. Pathfinder is too situational to be useful. Level 4: I feel like here is where the build paths can start to differ. I've found myself taking Shuriken Mastery more often than not, as the quest is pretty easy to fill for the first tier and the second tier, while nice, isn't required to get value out of the quest. I also find myself really valuing shuriken poke over Swift Strike as a combat tool. However, if you would like to go the Swift Strike build, Strike At the Heart is a great pickup at 4. It bleeds a good amount of extra damage, and you're probably getting move speed out of it too from level 1 so not as risky. Dragon claw is trash. Level 7: Perfect Defense is the most correct choice here. Deflect is your only form of self sustain, so being able to pop it more is a good thing. Cyber Agility can be okay if you took Agile Dismount at 1, giving you the ability to hop into the fray and survive a bit more. Dodge is extremely situational. I guess maybe you could pick it if the team is full of AA based assassins but eh. Augmented Guard is bad. Level 10: Dragonblade, in my experience, should never be taken in a shuriken build. You can try DB for a Swift Strike build, because it DOES refresh the swift strike CD when you kill someone, but for me it has never really worked out. Upon activation, you're almost guaranteed to be immediately targeted. X-Strike takes a bit more effort to land, especially for the large damage, but it's more consistent. It gives you a bit of breathing room by being untargetable, has good range, and really hurts if you land it. With a Shuriken based build, I would only ever take X-Strike. Level 13: A good tier. Shingan can be hard to land but the extra damage is massive if you do. It also makes clearing camps, even alone, especially simple. I recommend it for a Shuriken build. Flow Like Water is obvious for a Swift Strike focused build, because you will be constantly swift striking for a lot of damage. Even Double Jump is a strong ability, as it lets you get out of rough situations pretty quickly and the increased CD isn't especially noticeable. You'll have both charges back by the next fight, most likely. Level 16: If you aren't maxing Swift Strike, take Reflect. If you are maxing Swift Strke, take Steady Blade. You will be using is so much you will be blasting out huge damage. Never take Final Cut because 1 second extra is terrible. Level 20: If you take DB at 10, The Dragon Becomes Me is great. You get duration just from hitting enemies, so a couple good swings can more that double the duration on it. With Swift Strike builds, you can get a lot of value from this. Living Weapon is not strong enough to be worthwhile. If you didn't take DB, your decision is really Sharpened Stars or Zanshin. I almost always take Zanshin, as while 6500 damage seems like a lot by the time you hit 20 with even somewhat decent Reflect use you've got it or close to it. Sharpened stars is still a fine choice though, increasing your late game wave clear and team fight impact. ~~~ The more I play Genji, the more I adjust to his playstyle. It feels very different than other assassins, even other highly mobile assassins such as tracer. Genji is most likely not going to be maxing out that hero damage, but as long as he is maintaining decent health throughout a team fight and still contributing somewhat, if things start to favor your team you can almost guarantee no one is leaving this team fight alive. He's strange in that his objective taking isn't anything to write home about, his waveclear isn't great, he dosen't take camps well, and there's very few times he is going to pop out in a lane and instagib someone, but if you want to make crazy flashy plays and feel like screaming OUTPLAYED at every scrub who targets you with a powerful ability, he's really fun. Highlights include: deflecting a li-ming beam with Zanshin for a quick quad kill.
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Apr 27, 2017 12:59
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2 SPOOKY posted:Re: genjitalk I feel like you get significantly more out of db if you are going the swift strike build due to the refresh on kill. Chopping people to bits as you swing through everything with your talented E makes DB a much more effective option, but I feel like like being able to use X-Strike to go in and using your E to reposition for massive shuriken damage makes it more useful in that build. That said, I can see switching it based on team comp as well. As I've played him more, he isn't anything I'd really write home about but he's fun and flashy.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:50
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Boz0r posted:Anyone got some tips for Probius, then? I just tried him, and had no idea what I was doing. I will die on the hill of "Get talents that improve your turrets and Weaponize Pylons ult so you can have insane zone denial do not build the Q or W builds"
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Apr 27, 2017 21:00
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Mind over Matter posted:I really wish more of his power was in his turrets and less in his UT shock combo. I realize they have to be careful how much area denial they allow, but even with talents backing them up the photon cannons seem super underwhelming. Which is disappointing. Idk, with 2 photon cannons and 2 ulted pylons around an objective you basically completely deny anyone getting in there, especially since stealthier heroes won't be able to make it in. There's a reason master tier KR players mostly play the E build. It has been the best build I've played by far
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Apr 27, 2017 21:49
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Cuntellectual posted:Maybe it's just because people are smart enough to not focus me during deflect, but I think Zanshin (Genji's deflect talent) is the worst level 20 talent in the game. You aren't supposed to used deflect and hope you get targeted, you're supposed to throw it down in the middle of the fray of a team fight and watch it stack up
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Apr 27, 2017 22:18
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YolkaEd posted:I've been having a lot of fun with Genji, mainly through the Swift Strike build that was posted here earlier. Though that being said, I don't know when you would really double down on a Shuriken build for him, since it takes away from his bread and butter so much. I see his Q more as a poking tool, so trying to build that into being his main way of dealing damage seems a bit too risky for my liking. I enjoy the shuriken build more in games where the enemy has some good hard CC. In those games I tend to be using Swift Strike only to execute or to escape, so I tend to poke a lot more with Shuriken. Also, when you're on the chase for a kill the triple shuriken extra damage talent is huge. It also works on camps and structures, which greatly increases his ability to help during a siege.
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Apr 28, 2017 13:13
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That teamcomp looks like it owns to me.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:10
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HelixFox posted:They're also in the "Tanks and Bruisers" mega bundle as bruisers, and are both absent from the assassins bundle. Zarya is in the support and specialists bundle so I mean it's not a foolproof system.
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Apr 28, 2017 20:43
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Macaluso posted:Zarya feels so much more at home in this game than in Overwatch Siege forever, die, siege again until the enemy team is forced to deal with the fact that a guy worth .25 kills and a crazy short respawn is murdering everything they own.
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Apr 28, 2017 20:55
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Is ETC good right now? I got him in the tank pack and whoooo boy do I love this guitar cow.
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May 1, 2017 13:29
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Actually, those stats are trash OP play a stealth hero if you actually wanna be good. Sorry.
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May 2, 2017 17:31
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Bottom Liner posted:Is Sonya a solid solo queue champ? Do you typically spec her for brawler or merc camps? I guess the only real talent difference is the level 4? Sonya is great for solo queue because she has the following 1) She can fight pretty much everyone in 1v1 and trade up. 2) Her hook is one of the best "WE ARE FIGHTING NOW" signs you can give your team, only superseded by Leap if you take it at 10. 3) With merc lord you can take camps and push lanes by yourself. If someone comes to mess with you pushing see #1
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May 2, 2017 21:29
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Had an amazing Hanamura comeback last night with some goons. 1-4 on the verge of a loss when we take a teamfight victory, and the team pushes the payload while I set up to take a fort as probius. 1-3, then we push the fort down for 2x shot next. No one on map so we rush to boss to find them fighting it. With the boss at half health, the game explodes into a huge teamfight with the boss eating and killing people as it goes on. We pick up a quad and finish the boss, then get into a payload race against the one person on the enemy team who had already started to push their payload alone. One hell of a close game and games like that are why this game is so enjoyable.
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May 3, 2017 14:29
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Just had a game with a Nova who spent the whole game bitching about how Lunara and Falstad are broken heroes and managed and how they had no team. The Nova managed to do 0 siege damage the entire 20 minutes which I find impressive
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May 4, 2017 02:09
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Honestly lootboxes come frequently enough even at high levels that if you find someone you wanna play just play them
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May 4, 2017 13:03
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I'd take Horrify over RoD almost every time. RoD is random and requires you sit still for seven seconds to get the full use of it. If you sit still for seven seconds and no one gets to you and fucks you up then RoD is just a win more ability because the enemy team is getting trashed already. e; not to mention the lvl20 talent for Horrify is actually good and the one for RoD is basically useless.
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May 4, 2017 13:29
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Lemon-Lime posted:What are some characters that let you single-handedly save your dumb pubbie team from wiping when played in ranked, so I can rescue my MMR from the abyss? My gut feeling is Jo/Malf/Thrall/Sylv/Ragnaros/Azmo/Zarya and maybe Uther? Cassia ball lightning because your dumb pubbie team is probably going to go for it anyway so at least you can all go in and rush for death together and even if you die, especially after 20, you will probably pick up a bunch of kills.
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May 4, 2017 17:18
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Shibawanko posted:Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. Stayin in the brush is fine because you soak xp. Always keep an eye on your health bars at your bottom left and save your Z ability for when you need to run out. A lot of people never recall with Vikings which is silly. Getting your bribe stacks is super useful. You can take camps solo and if you ever have the Vikings in the same place they can quickly take camps. I tend to take the revive/summon ult and continue to split. If you take that ult, use it aggressively to bring your Vikings to the front as needed because they can bring a lot of damage and ruin things for your opponent with Jump! Balor is probably the best of the three to keep alive if you can only keep 1 in early fights, but post 10 I find Erik very important because he can maneuver quickly and take camps/some objectives alone while simultaneously being able to reposition well for dropping the ult
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May 4, 2017 22:59
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On the topic of ults dragon blade still the bad ult namaste
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May 5, 2017 12:37
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Scarra talking about HotS
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May 5, 2017 13:34
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Server lag, happens occasionally especially with Brawls. Just hit leave.
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May 5, 2017 13:40
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All Nazeebo was my fave brawl. Just an absolute shitstorm or zombie circles everywhere with death frogs.
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May 5, 2017 15:55
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Cassia is good but she's a somewhat squishy medium/short range assassin. It's very easy to use Fend wrong so a lot of people seem to underestimate her damage. She has a nice wonderwoman skin. Cassia owns and fend+blind shits out damage. Ball Lightning is one of the best ults in the game, and at level 20 it's obscene.
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May 5, 2017 19:29
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Anybody win on offense on the brawl
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May 6, 2017 03:11
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Mind over Matter posted:Is the shuriken build really that good? It feels very low-impact to me when I play that build, but I'd be interested in hearing what you feel is so strong about it. the shuriken build is much better in my experience. you can poke from range and still use your E as an escape tool rather than making your escape tool your main source of damage.
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May 6, 2017 14:20
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Dugong posted:What's the best announcer pack? ETC or Brightwing
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May 6, 2017 20:15
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Chaitai posted:I've been out of this game for a while, but how do you deal with a Valeera past level 10? I am playing Cassia now, and it seems like if she jumps on my past 10 (even when I'm looking for the drat shimmer, it still happens!) there is nothing I can do. Stunned, about a million damage happens, and if I manage to blind her or whatever, she does that unrevealable ult and keeps wailing on me. I tried to run, but with no escape on Cassia, I was just a sitting duck. Is the answer really as easy as "don't get caught."? stay near team, blind then fend for huge heals, walk away.
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May 7, 2017 20:57
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The one thing I enjoy about Hanamura is the placement of the boss almost always leads to one major clown fiesta at some point during the game and it always feels wonderful to win that for the game.
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May 8, 2017 13:11
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biznatchio posted:People do not understand how that map works at all. 2 points left on the enemy core and an empowered friendly payload that'll win the game that's already halfway pushed? Nah, let's go defend that un-empowered payload instead because our 3 point core simply can't handle the damage! The display for the damage dealt by the next payload is in huge colored text.
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May 8, 2017 14:51
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You playing with idiots doesn't mean it isn't blatantly obvious.Avalerion posted:But your wording made it sound as if a particular payload gets empoweded rather than just whichever is the next to get a shot off? He's saying that his allies will not push his 2x shot and instead stop the enemy's 1x shot
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May 8, 2017 14:59
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Gustav posted:How are two people supposed to gain any kind of advantage by stalling if the enemy team is escorting as 5? How do they accomplish anything with this mission other than wasting time and feeding XP? Every second you stall the enemy team without dying is an advantage for you. If you have someone who can pretty easily juke in an out, even a second or two stalling the enemy payload while you finish up yours is a few second advantage for later payloads. 10s per payload that you manage to not die can add up pretty quickly. Libertine posted:Hanamura sucks because there's too many things that need to be done simultaneously and if the game isn't a draw that gets settled by the level 16 team fight (like someone above said) then it gets settled by whichever team had one or two members decide on the wrong priority at the crucial time. There is definitely too much poo poo on this map. multiple payloads to push/defend, forts to push in, mercs that give items, etc. There is just too much crap on this map that is new and it feels like a total mess. I don't think I see anyone get the recon camp, ever, and the only time I see the turret taken is when the payload is pushing by it and it's a fast pickup anyway. The support one is nice, but it's still a lovely use of time overall. There is almost always a better place to be than the mercs, and they dont offer enough of a reward to offset it. Kashuno fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 15:05
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exquisite tea posted:The payloads stay on the map too long for stalling to accomplish much. You can wipe the floor with the enemy team for the first round and it doesn't matter, if they push it 10 minutes later they're right back in the game. Idgi. You stall them so that they get incrementally further and further behind so that if they DO push it 10 minutes later they are much further behind than you are when it comes to actually winning.
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Poultron posted:Am I a bad person if I don't want to practice Malfurion even though he's strong right now and I main support there are way more fun supports
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