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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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ADVRider is mostly populated by thin-skinned angry middle-aged white men. They’re constantly in fear of their masculinity being undermined and find a way to drop reassurances about their wisdom, strength, and skills into every thread they post in. They always seem to find themselves in real life situations where they send an offender away in tears of fear and humiliation from a vicious bon mot and a brandished firearm. The only thing more serious to them than motorcycles is posting aggressively about motorcycles on the internet. Do not make posts about hipsters, millennials, women, or homosexuals on ADVRider, because the inmates will quickly see that you are insulting them and rise up against you like a flock of Canada geese. Do not question their tales of mighty conquests over sales people, women drivers, or Harley-Davidson riders, and never don’t sign your posts. Make sure to loudly identify anything that is not manly.
Basically, it’s tvtropes but about motorcycles.

Post quotes, threads, or other outlandish poo poo that you find on ADVRider here and let’s all point and laugh at them.

Motorcycles are like women - They must be shown their place, owned, and sexualized as much as possible.

I read your post about some drunken shennanigans and it reminded me of this time I totally schooled a guy on a Harley.

Are you a real man or just a bloke? - Crosstraining Enduro Skills posted a typical video and some butts got hurt without watching the video.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 6, 2020

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I'm actually fairly close to asking a mod to delete it because nobody responded to my whiskeyposting and now I'm embarassed.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Advrider is like Reddit in my mind. It's almost always useless, but the sheer number of people there means sometimes you have to go there because some information lives only there.

I would never willingly spend time there these days though.

Quoted for truth

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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No punctuation, their/they're, mention of GS and HiViz in the same clause, and a weak "back in my day." Checks all the boxes. Like every good thread, only two posts until an argument starts. Also, homophobia, politics, and "maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle" all in the first page.

That Ural thread where a lot of people get really upset about Ural problems being discussed.

"Oh, a thread, let's find an excuse to put a picture of my bike in it without adding to the discussion in any way."

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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To be clear, I occasionally post on ADVRider and also view it as the most up-to-date and comprehensive source of information on things like thumpers, gear, road conditions, gadgets, etc. But there's too great a supply of stupid poo poo to laugh at to not make mention of it.

Like Like that thread where they found Bullshit Hipster Bike Videos and a bunch of guys got real butthurt.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Coydog posted:

I've seen this exact post, barely any words changed, 4-6 times in just the last day of browsing. Ugh. What possesses people to relish playing the "old" card, and why do they think it's not alienating and weird to do so. You can just say "I enjoyed the blah blah era of motorcycle, where they had x colors" and leave it at that.


That's the drat truth, and always turns into a discussion about how terrible young people are now and kids don't play outside and they all want trophies.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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That is some peak ADVTropes stdh.txt.

And the entire store broke into applause and a rousing chorus of Bohemian Rhapsody.

Edit: and as if on cue, three pages in,

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Knock wood.
35 years, hundreds of thousands of miles and I've never been off. Come close a few times but never so far.
I never realized how many have had multiple spills.

AMAC
From a guy who earlier in the thread argues that full-faces aren't always safer than 3/4s and may also restrict peripheral vision, just come on a rolling thunder ride with my vet buddies if you don't believe me.


In a thread about around town scooter gear.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jul 7, 2017

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Coydog posted:

It's also a great place to buy gear if you are fat and short. And a great place to buy bike parts for next to nothing.


It keeps getting better the more I read. I've seen all of these. Needs a box for weird unsolicited conversations about bodily functions, particularly related to age.

Oh god yeah
Hemorrhoids and prostates

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've come to realize my beef is with the Perfect Line posters, and probably Jo Momma posters by extension, though I rarely visit the latter. Why I keep going back for more, I can't really figure out. There's something fascinating about an echo chamber of lovely beliefs, even if they make you feel sad about your chosen hobby or lifestyle. There are so many threads about why younger generations aren't into bieks, and every now and then someone will interrupt all the millennial-bashing with "It's you! You fuckers are all assholes and nobody would want to be part of your stupid community!" but they get shouted down with "aw snowflake got his feels hurt" and that's that.

No better resource for old thumper tech advice, local trail information, or RTW travel porn, though. Great deals in the flea market, too.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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A circus of a thread about ABS. Basically every good rational point made is shouted down repeatedly.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Motorcycles stop faster than cars

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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ffs, this guy:

"I need some help understanding the focus of this world known as “adventure rider” as I am a newbie to this concept.

Maybe I am just expecting to read stories and questions from those who have done and those that have actually beat the living S*#T out of things and want to share real world experience with others as to what works and to pass on the wisdom or impart that knowledge to those who are honestly asking for guidance; not from those who want to do something, and seem to have lots of time and money to pontificate on buying and installing fancy equipment on their bike. To each their own and I am not trying, or want to, piss on any persons’ parade, never will; but other than the entertainment factor of reading how well some new expensive piece of equipment fits or seems to work on a GS, and smiling that the old adage of a fool and their money are soon parted; it all seems a good waste of time for those who are seeking honest opinions. I often see the same on YouTube. I guess those people are too busy riding.

I must start by saying am not a newbie to the topic of having fun on 2, 3, 4 wheels or tracked machines. I have ridden or driven almost every kind of on-road, off road and snow recreational vehicle there is. I have been a BMWMOA member since 1977, and I still own my first BMW. I have so many miles on M/C’s I cannot begin to estimate the total. I started playing in the woods and fields of upstate NY in the 1960’s on these vehicles, in fact one of my best friend’s father was a Bultaco dealer, selling out of their barn (no fancy showrooms in those days), who let us kids freely ride anything in his stable and never got mad when we brought it back in less than new condition. Now I know now he was just finding out what parts to inventory because if us kids didn’t break it, no one else would either. I have ridden motorcycles in every kind of weather from heat to snow. Once on a spring ride with a girlfriend during the college years, we got caught an hour from home in an accumulating snow storm. Dumped her at a diner, rode back to her apt., got her car as I didn’t own a car and went back to get her. I should have listened to the gods and left her at the diner because she is now an ex-wife. Bottom line is my “adventure stories” are numerous and seldom involve equipment purchases or having purchased the absolutely perfect overpriced item.

Over all those years, the number of times I had to rely on a tool kits I can count on one hand, maintenance and not riding too fast or crazy is the key. My tool kits have comprised a means of “jerry rigging” things until I can limp it to a proper place to fix it with my real tools or a garage. If we ran out of fuel then we were a fool. Heated gear meant you bought another newspaper to stuff in your pants and leather bomber jacket. Waterproof Luggage for most of my riding years has been duffle bags with plastic garbage bag liners. Until I bought my R1150RT I never had luggage “matching” the bike. Most of this time the headlights barely illuminated past the front tire at idle and not much farther when riding down the road or fields. If you crashed because you didn’t see the problem, then you were going too drat fast. Bike to bike comms was hand signals and giving the car driver the finger. Not for nothing my one and only crash was in 1971, even off road tip overs have been few and far between. But then again, I am not balls to the wall rider, plan not to fall, and practice riding all the time.

So what confuses me is how did we do all that for all those years without worrying about the proper over protective crash bars, special tank bags that incorporate everything including a margarita blender, complete tool kits that you can overhaul the bike, lighting that would illuminate a sports stadium, extra filtered water, fuel, helicopter support, on and on. And unless it isn’t overpriced - it is absolutely no drat good.

I bought my GSA because my last trip to NS I saw a couple guys dump their bikes on a ferry steel deck screwing up their fancy plastic parts, and I ended up misunderstanding a local’s direction and ended up miles and miles out of my way on a dirt road in a logging camp. I had no problems but, decided that my RT with all its plastic isn’t suited to those conditions (too expensive if stuff happens) so I bought the GSA for something that if it gets broken or trashed it is less problematic to heal. The only thing I have added to the GSA is a loud horn, a couple of $50 LED lights for contrast purposes, and an ADMORE Led light (which I have on all my bikes). I use a $60 Nelson Rigg tank bag for years and it works fine in all kinds of weather. If it rains, I use zip lock bags for waterproofing gear if needed. Then again, I plan ahead.

Now it seems that I am not an “adventure rider” if I don’t spend thousands on overpriced lights, overpriced crash bars and plates, overpriced tank bags, the perfect luggage, and have a Snap-on truck right behind me all the time. Possibly that is just good marketing talking.

Help! Please explain what I am missing?"

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger posted:

A circus of a thread about ABS. Basically every good rational point made is shouted down repeatedly.

I'm continuing to lurk this thread because I hate myself.

Here's a current argument from one of the biggest ding dongs.

Vertical C posted:

ABS adds rotational and unsprung mass to a wheel, so it could "hurt" in some situations.

Of course assuming all else is equal. Same bike (except abs) same rider same road etc

Note: I am not claiming all scenarios it is worse.

Abs has a ring on each wheel which adds mass.


Vertical C posted:

A bike with extra mass on a wheel turns slightly slower. Doesn't hold the road slightly as well. Will this make a difference in every situation, no. But there might be situations where it would and therefore hurt your chances of avoiding a collision.

So abs can't be said never to hurt.


I have had to swerve out of the way of a collision. My non abs bike might have saved me. Had I had abs the wheel wouldn't have turned as fast and a near miss may have been a collision

Vertical C posted:

So it has a difference 0.01% of the time even using your numbers. That's not inconsequential if the consequence is kissing a truck.

0.001% is 1 in 10000 or once every 15 years if you ride nearly twice a day. Since have been riding for that long on bikes lucky they weren't abs always by your numbers.

So abs can hurt.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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And from this thread, containing the exact same slapfight:

Deviant posted:

Even the best road racers in the world will lock up brakes when they shouldn't, or lift the front under acceleration when they should keep it down. That's why they use computers. But I guess Rossi just needs to practice more.

diabolik37 posted:

Never seen Rossi using a computer, left alone a laptop, while racing...:lol3

If you can't lift the front wheel a couple of inches while accelerating and keeping it there, don't blame us for your shortcomings... Keep practicing and learn to ride properly!

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I still can't tell if he's an extremely committed troll or just an idiot, since he's been at it for 9 pages now.
Is there really a difference when nobody else can tell the difference?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've never used it, but I bet if you posted in the regional threads along your route, you could find a tentspace here and there.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've got no need for a gear indicator at all, but the idea of getting all elitist at someone for making one or even just wanting one is beyond old man yelling at cloud.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Why do ADVRider shitheads always post like this:

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beeach

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recent-koledge-grajewate female

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PO-leece

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insufferable see-you-enn-tee

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bee-itch

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New-Age female grrl-power

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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builds character posted:

This is literally the only good thing about that thread. Jesus. :stare:

I made the mistake of reading some of that guy's other posts and he has kind of a theme.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Why not though

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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For real, complaining about a picture of a naked man is very advrider.com.txt

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I want yall to read this.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Pretty much. I haven't looked into the 450 megathread to see what prompted it yet.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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BIKELIFE - These Morons coming to a city near you.

Choice replies:

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2 cops cars. length of 3/8 cable between cars. I sign, 1/4 mile back, warning! Road Closed. Cameras showing warning signs, and the riders ignoring signs and what happens when they hit the cable. Herd them into a prison bus and take them to jail. Use a front end loader to dump the bikes into dump trucks.

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Well, that's your brain thinking factually. Early 20s black guy on a dirt bike in the city, riding wheelies, no gear, probably stolen.

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If there was no element of criminal behavior involved these people wouldn't be riding.

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A couple water cannons sweeping the wheels out from under them would get to the bottom of this fuckery.

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When do we just get the army national guard involved? FFS...

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What the BLOODY HELL has happened to Cleveland? Ten years ago, when I lived there...that kind of thing would have had the coroner stacking bodies of perps.

Cleveland...Lakewood...Rocky River. Lakewood's cops had an iron fist. And Rocky River, has people with money. Is EVERYONE so afraid of black skin, they just look down and shrug at this?

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So I guess you're onboard with this.

I don't see whites doing this sort of reckless endangerment anywhere. And I have NEVER seen riders do it - yes, I know the story of the Hell's Angels in California.

But the California cops were not afraid of being called "ray sissed" for stopping Hell's Angels' violence.

That's what this is about. Anytime a cop, even a black cop, arrests a black perp, it's ray sissm.

They're DARING it to happen.

Cleveland PD was taken over by the Federal DoJ, Federal oversight, for allegedly being ray sissed. Lakewood...ten years ago it was a suburb in transition. I don't know how that shook out. Rocky River was wealthy suburban, and white. Sorry. Demographics ARE.

Cleveland Heights tried to meet these guys halfway - but there's no fun in acting out in majority-black Cleveland Heights.

Have you EVER seen a group of whites, or Asians, or even Hispanics, ANYWHERE, ride on a public roadway like that? For 25 miles, through four jurisdictions?

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I don't think you want to get in on that.

It would go down like Portland. Portland PD standing by while Antifa thugs beat an elderly white man - for being white.

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One of the BIKELIFE videos has a scene where the riders are cornered by cops - and all the POC riders drop the bikes and flee on foot, leaving the bikes lying in the road. What does that tell you?

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I don't get it. So it's a "black thing"? Are they riding like that for a particular reason? For some type of cause? Or just to be idiots?

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It's not a black thing. It's a gang thing. Show everybody they "own" the streets. Baltimore has had a bad problem with this for a long time. Juveniles who want to be gang bangers "prove" themselves by doing the stealing of bikes and hand them over to the gangs soldiers who haul them back to the cities where they are given to trusted juvenile "runners" who use them to run drugs from the safe house to the street dealer and money from the dealer back to the house. Police are forbidden to peruse them because pursuit has been deemed unsafe. It's not just drug gangs that do stupid stunt thing. Hanger arounds and lawless types who think it's cool buy into it too.

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Is this behavior a Negro type of thing?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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The worst shitlord in that thread has been featured in here before:

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Community motorcycle garages

OP posted:

Forgive me if this belongs elsewhere, but have you used a community motorcycle garage? And if so, did you like it or not?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Oh boy I can’t wait for the boomers on advrider to weigh in on what makes a woman attractive. My guess is an inability to vote?

Oh they already do that in most threads unprovoked. I don’t even click on threads mentioning anything about women in the title because you just know it’s going to be equal parts creepiness and misogyny.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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The thread is motorcycles with "souls."

OP posted:

What is it that makes certain motorcycles have "soul"?

Is it the way their engine feels?
Is it the way they sound?
Is it if they have quirks?
It is if they are well thought out and designed?

I suspect the definition of motorcycle "soul" is subjective. It might even be related to a positive owner experience. I would still like to know which motorcycles from your background have "soul" and why you think so.

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I was thinking along these lines the other day. When I bought my KLR, it had 2,238 easy miles on it. The previous owner had done some commuting on it, took it in for the 500 mile checkup, hadn't even come up on the next oil change after break-in. Not a scratch on it, never been off pavement, no farkles. I on the other hand have re-learned dirt riding on it. It has been my do-it-all bike and I have personallized and modified and wrung the crap out of this bike. I have dropped it, wheelied it, jumped it, slid it, I have flipped it over backwards. Pushed it through sand, buried it in mud, flown over gravel, crawled over rocks, zigzagged through the trees. Even though I have flogged it, I have always been very meticulous with the maintenence of this machine, (its how I show her I care). As we crossed 22,238 miles I wondered if she was happier before I bought her, when she was clean and new and gently ridden. I swear at that moment I felt her pull just a little harder as she whispered to me "what are you waiting for? Just twist it''. Yep, soul.

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I always knew my old Harley panhead had heart, but about 25 years ago I got dosed at a dead show (squirt gun shot to my eye) I went out to the parking lot just to check on the old girl, and I had a two hour conversation with her. pretty cool trip, and I still have the bike. I will never sell her. If she can talk she must have a soul. :lol3

a guy who's right and made a handful of posters really mad posted:

owner insecurity + dollars spent + obviousness of primitive construction (oil leaks anyone?) + amount of fiddling needed to get it to run properly for 10 minutes before requiring a teardown + 10xmodel year = soul

look under moto guzzi, ducati, harley davidson

basically, the recent model years that require way too much fiddling with their substandard mechanics/build quality and overblown pricetags owned by people who profess to be "a breed apart" is where you get soul.

see also "lifestyle" and "RUB"

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My RF is a like a really finicky chick you'd take on a blind date, but she has no right to be finicky cuz she's kind of ugly and has bad breath. Then you get drunk and take her home and she gives you a really good ride. You don't really want to put up with her crap, but you learn that if you do she can rock your world.

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I just now realized why bikes are often compared to women. You can intellectualize and make lists of ideal qualities and such, but when the right one comes along- that all goes up in smoke.

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Twirl some spanners on her. Fettle her parts. Then she'll show you some emotion.

an argumentative hair-splitting dong posted:

So a bike with character IMO is one that's interesting, something a little different, a little bit odd and quirky in looks and or mechanicals and is generally pleasing, but there's no getting around the fact that otherwise, it is bland. You don't feel a connection.

A bike with soul may have all the above characteristics too, but when you spark it up and take it out, yes, it moves the body as well as stirs passion due to the way it sounds and feels and handles. Nothing bland about the riding experience. You feel a connection.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Coydog posted:

Of course my bike has soul. My bike has soul because I hastily transmuted my brother to it before he was lost to the void during a botched attempt to bring my mom back from the dead. You monsters.

Speaking of monsters, advrider boomers are thirsty creeps. Notice nobody attributes masculine terms to their motorcycles. Nah it's always a girl they want to shag.

And they don't feminize their bikes because of their innate tendency to love and respect women, it's always attributed to some combination of moodiness and sexuality, which pretty strongly shows that they have no real thoughts about the other person in their sex life either. So basically anybody that can produce an explanation for why they think their bike is female is trash.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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SalsaRider posted:

Question: Do motorcycles have “souls”?

Salsa, my old 1995 R100RT BMW “airhead” certainly did! She was my girlfriend, my dancing partner, for many years!

We had a bond, an understanding between us. When facing gravel or dirt or mud roads, I’d just pat her tank and say, “Find your own way through.” And she always did!

When we faced curves . . . I swear . . . I would intentionally take no actions except to look at where I wanted to go. Salsa, without any conscious effort on my part, would always steer a perfect path through them: wide at the beginning, cutting in to the edge of the curve, and then wide on the other side.

Did I talk to her? Yes, and gave her pats on her tank every ride we took.

Did I take good care of her? You bet!!!

When did I name her, and recognize that she had a “soul”? About 5 years after I first bought her.

I recently sold Salsa to an airhead enthusiast in Ushuaia, Argentina, on the tip of South America. And I did so on 14 February, 2018, Valentine’s Day!!!

Of all days!!!

The new owner and I toasted the deal over glasses of wine; me, with tears streaming down my face. Even writing this makes me tear-up!

Do motorcycles have “souls”? Think what you will, but I know drat’d well that Salsa did!!!

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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lol at this bit of incredulity

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a Confederate flag is "Racist"? South lost thousands during the Civil War and many families never forget their loved ones.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've described my 87 GSXR as a girl wearing a black motorcycle jacket and torn fishnets. My 09 R1 is a high-priced dominatrix.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Harley Davidsons ARE a participation trophy that boomers buy for themselves.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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more thoughts on bikes with soul

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You can accuse me of being anthropomorphic, sentimental and silly, but some bikes definitely have soul. Other machines too.

My small block Moto Guzzi is imbued with soul. Very, very appealing.

Most Japanese bikes don’t, or I can’t detect it.

I thought a Moto Guzzi was the epitome of soul until I started messing around with a mid-1990s carbed Ducati 2 valve 900 Super Sport. Holy Cow! That beast is overloaded with soul. When I park it the thing sometimes drips excess soul onto the ground. It’s can be downright embarrassing. I can practically hear it whisper to me when I’m sleeping.

I have an old, early 1950s Smith & Wesson K-38 Target Revolver in .38 Special. It has fired probably a hundred thousand rounds in formal Bullseye competition. Nothing but honest wear after decades of loving care. That thing absolutely has soul and speaks to you.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Jazzzzz posted:


Is it too hard to just say "this bike/tool/whatever has quirks that appeal to me"?

I wish more people would say that. Its as if they have to justify owning an expensive toy by making it some deep personal thing. It's almost competitive, too. Like "because I recognize x bike has 'soul,' I'm therefore on a deeper level than the rest of the unwashed masses." :jerkoff:

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Thread is: Proper etiquette for passing *slow* groups

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Has happened to me. Just passed as conditions allowed, slotted in when I had to. I didn't try to rip past them as I could see a few ladies riders I didn't want to startle. Just few horn beeps as I progressed thru the herd

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If you're going to pass groups of pirates, just watch out for any hunched-over riders on sportsters. That would be the bitch/poa/so of the nearby badass. Do not cut her off or put her into the weeds with your superior motorcycling display. Guaranteed your day will end badly.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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