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drizzle posted:I'm excited about Perine ending up with Washington. I have the seventh pick in my dynasty league and I might be targeting him with it. Well, just don't fall in love with him before seeing how the draft goes. Reaches happen. One of Mixon, Williams, Howard, or Cook could easily fall. In the 2 QB dynasty league I'm in that has started drafting, Deshaun Watson went 1.01, Trubisky 1.05, and Mahomes 1.09. I started the day with no picks, but swooped in for Mixon at 1.06 and desperately tried to trade for Mike Williams at 1.12.
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Chris Thompson will keep catching passes, but it isn't like Rob Kelley will be hard to unseat as the early down guy.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Also it's effectively a 5WR league so I wouldn't even worry about RB. Yep. Go Davis happily.
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May 1, 2017 11:05
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drizzle posted:Don't want to give too much away or anything but he's fifth overall in his rankings now That's awful
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May 3, 2017 01:09
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Sataere posted:Interesting. That is very different from a lot of the projections I saw. I can't fault him too much. He liked Treadwell as much as I did. Eh, looks contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Goff wasn't going that high even in 2 QB leagues, and would be curious why he had Doctson so low, when I think he was the one out of the consensus top 3 WRs that most people agreed should be there (Treadwell definitely the one that consensus worried about most). Just kinda worried it's throwing contrarian takes out and then getting credit for the ones that hit, like how I want to say "but credit to him for having Henry higher than most, dude looks awesome."
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May 3, 2017 12:25
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drizzle posted:Could be, or it could be his actual opinion. He does a two to three page write up on the top fifty or so players at each position and includes the 1000 or so pages of his film notes so it's not like he's throwing out rankings without justification like most sites. Ah ok, that's a ton of work, so will give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Forever_Peace posted:Decided to see if it was time to take teemu off ignore for the new season. lol drat
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Sataere posted:I'm not sure I buy the contrarian for the sake of being contrarian school of thought. If anything, it shows his willingness to look at things objectively and not let consensus sway him, which I respect. When you say you don't buy the school of thought, you just mean in this instance, right? Not that no one does it?
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Alright, dynasty trade time. Superflex, 1 PPR, 12 team, 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 QWRT / 3 WRT. Ezekiel Elliott vs pick 4, 6, and 11 Probably looking at Mixon/Cook at 4, Mixon/Cook/Williams/Watson at 6, and Ross/Mahomes/some scrub lower tier RB at 11. Doesn't feel enough for Zeke, does it? sourdough fucked around with this message at 01:43 on May 4, 2017 |
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Cool, thanks for the input. I tried to get him to do his 2018 1st instead of 1.11, but no luck. His QBs are rough (Flacco, Palmer, Savage), so even though he was runner up last year, chances are that 2018 1st would be more middle of the pack. I just almost always try to trade assets when they're realistically unable to increase in value, or at least very unlikely to do so. So far this off season I've moved several shares of Mike Evans, one David Johnson, and one Beckham. People seem to attach a premium to getting the best player in a deal and have a crazy recency bias/impatience, so I try to take advantage. Maybe will regret it, but I think it's a sound general strategy.
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May 4, 2017 02:22
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Sataere posted:It's a great strategy. I adhere to it also. But you need to do it in a way that makes you stronger long term and minimizes risk. Winston / Prescott / Tyrod Elliott / Ware / Powell / Rawls Julio / Jordy / Moncrief / Tate / Tyrell Williams / Mike Wallace / Decker / Marvin Jones Graham / Ebron Good IDPs that I won't list because there's a ton of them Pick 1.03 this year, someone else's probable mid 2018 1st, no other picks of note either year Basically feel like depth at RB will be critical for me this year. Pick 3 should get me someone good, but don't think I can pass on Corey Davis if Fournette and McCaffrey go 1 and 2. So 4 and 6 being two of Mixon/Cook/Watson is pretty appealing. Just isn't getting enough back for Zeke, as Mixon and Cook could also easily not beat out Hill/Gio/Murray/McKinnon as clear cut workhorses and Watson is probably going to be a massive disappointment.
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May 4, 2017 02:55
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Cook's combine and draft day slip have spooked a lot of people, maybe too much. Williams I hate the landing spot, and some were already souring a little on him as a prospect (want to say his vertical and arm length were pretty poor?). It was such a weird real NFL draft with that top 9 too.
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May 4, 2017 10:45
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Lol lotta bad advice. There's no better time for rookie drafts. Where is the fun in getting hyped up about UDFAs if you don't draft until they're already cut? If you stick to rookies taken in the first 2 rounds of the NFL draft, you're limiting yourself to 4 RBs and 5 WRs, and taking Gerald Everett and Adam Shaheen over any others (who? exactly!). Enjoy your 1 round dynasty draft. Fantasy Pros has rookie rankings through 78, but includes IDP, so offense only is a bit less.https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/rookies.php Plenty of other places have scouting reports on most of the offensive guys listed there too. "Name scouting report" in Google is all you need.
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May 9, 2017 20:17
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I guess I don't get it. Not much will change drastically except for fringe late round guys you'll likely cut anyway, and a handful of rookies whose teams sign a vet FA in the next couple months. No one likes devy leagues here??
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May 9, 2017 20:20
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Sataere posted:I'm not saying you have to wait until the preseason, but it's nice to get a couple of mini-camps in to sift through the later rounds. It's just more information that everyone else gets too. You'll be sifting through the same garbage in the later rounds either way, as anyone that shines a little will move up the draft board.
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May 9, 2017 20:49
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Butter Hole posted:Perhaps a dumb question: is there a beer sheets-equivalent for IDP? My dynasty league is introducing defensive players and the draft is this weekend. I am woefully unprepared. Anyone have some recommended resources? Yeah, due to scoring differences between leagues, there's really no good rankings that are accurate across positions. I'd recommend going to fftoday.com, plugging in your league's scoring, and then seeing how both each position compares to others, as well as how the scoring gradient changes as you go down the rankings (DL#1 to #12 to #24 etc).
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May 12, 2017 20:28
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Go to football outsiders, find defensive snap count, draft every 3 down LB, profit Unless it's 6 point per sack, 1 per tackle, and you have to start 3 DL and 1 LB
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May 13, 2017 12:55
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Is drafting Joe Williams with 2.1 insane? He's crawling up mock drafts and seems to be going in the mid-2nd now in a lot of places. I've got 2.1 and 3.8. I think one of Perrine, Hunt, or Kamara should be there. If not, I'd take Zay Jones, Godwin, and Foreman ahead of Joe Williams. I mean, totally sincerely, you should do what you want, but Hyde can catch a football and is good. If you pass on Joe Williams there, some garbage handcuff almost exactly like him should be available at your 3rd  Or forget about trying to trade back and just send a player straight up for a late 2nd. Then even if you miss on Joe, there really will be someone like Mack or Gallman there for sure.Edit: Every league is different, but Joe William has gone at like 25-35 in my 1 QB leagues with IDP and veterans available, so something like 20-30 maybe in an offense and rookie only. I think you're right to expect him to be gone at your 3rd, so if you really want him, get back into the mid to late 2nd. Then even if someone snipes you on him, Jamaal Williams or Mack or one of the top 2nd tier receivers will be there for sure. sourdough fucked around with this message at 11:38 on May 16, 2017 |
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May 16, 2017 11:16
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Also, drat I love 2 QB leagues. Trubisky at pick 5, Watson at 7, Mahomes and Kizer to the same QB-needy team at 10 and 11. In a TE premium league, I scooped up Mike Williams, OJ Howard, and Njoku at 8, 9, and 12. Watson has gone pick 1 in two others. I think late 1st and early 2nd is the sweet spot for value this year; either good skill guys drop when QBs go ahead of you, or you can extort some team desperate for a QB if they're still on the board.
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Sataere posted:I blew up my dynasty team this year, so I have 1.01, 2.01, 2.04 and 2.06. Looking at this draft, I am super stoked at my second rounders. Kamara isn't sneaky value is the problem, pretty much consensus late 1st from what I've seen. He, Hunt, and Perine are fairly solidified as a tier, I think, as the best RBs after the big four.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:If you don't want to take Davis with the 1.1 then you can pretty safely trade back as far as 1.4 and get a top tier guy. Any further and there's a drop off though. Totally agree. Hell, if you aren't scared off by his combine numbers and Latavius Murray, go back to 5 and take Cook worst case.
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Sataere posted:See, I don't like Davis that much more than Fournette, Mccaffery or Cook. I think they are all interchangeable. Hence my willingness to trade back. Ah, I gotcha. Yeah, I'm excited about Kamara, but wonder if reports of the coaching staff being annoyed with Ingram might be exaggerated. As for Davis, I'm not sure he's consensus 1.01, just think uncertainty over Fournette's passing down role has let Davis creep in ahead of him for a lot of people. Leperflesh posted:Tight end chat. I just made this chart for the slow draft, because I was curious, so you guys might as well see it too. Well, not sure I see the case for much optimism. Gronk and Henry only contributed due to touchdowns, and the next best TE on the list was probably a mid to low TE2? It's super nice to see it all laid out, of course. Convinces me that Njoku is the guy to take a flier on, as Howard and Engram are not going to get the red zone looks they need right out of the gates. Edit: or was this from a dynasty perspective of "how often do they contribute eventually"?
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In redraft, I'm going Ross. But dynasty/long term, I just like Williams' profile, especially when comparing each rookie to Keenan and Green. Ross will never be the WR1 while Green is in town, and though I think it's unlikely, Williams could unseat Keenan for lead target, or at least be a very close WR1b to Keenan's WR1a.
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Ben Nevis posted:Does Rivers being at the end of his career give you any pause for Williams in dynasty? It's not great, but there aren't a ton of better spots. I'd rather see what he does in the next 1-2 years with a good QB, can always sell him on if I think he won't produce after Rivers. Though I think I actually do like Ross more than lots of dynasty people I've seen. A WR taken at pick 9 in the real draft has been falling to at least that far in some drafts.
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Spoeank posted:Hahahahahahahaha Basically this, though if you're in a deep enough league where like 70-80 WRs are rostered, he's higher upside stash than a lot of guys down that end of the rankings.
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May 22, 2017 20:16
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Ben Nevis posted:In what circumstances would you consider Mitch Trubisky to be draftable? Somewhere in the late 2nd to late 3rd in a typical offense-only 12 team dynasty with like 20-30 roster spots is reasonable. In 2 QB or superflex, late 1st is reasonable, though he's gone as high as 5 in some of mine. In redraft, not.
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Sataere posted:I think a case could be made for early second in 12 man dynasty. That he's gone fifth in some drafts already is crazy. Superflex draft, to be fair. Watson has gone pick 1 in like 2/6 of those drafts that I've been in, fwiw. QB desperate teams are going to be desperate. Usually all three of Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes have been gone by like pick 12 or 13 at the latest, it's just more often Watson is like pick 5-7, then Trub and Mahomes like 10-12. Edit: It wouldn't take much for them to return value at those ADPs, I don't think. Wentz seems to be fetching an early/mid 1st after his mediocre year, and Goff has crept back up into late 1st territory after his awful year, on account of the change in staff for the Rams and slight positive buzz about him improving. Garoppolo can probably fetch a 2nd right now, Osweiler was worth at least a 1st after Houston paid him, etc. I can't fault people drafting QBs so early too much, because there's just always a market for them in 12 team 2 QB. Half the league is not totally content with their QB situation. sourdough fucked around with this message at 16:07 on May 26, 2017 |
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Benne posted:Mitchell Trubisky is going to be trash Absolutely
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Gobias Ind. posted:Don't get me wrong, AA has value and think he could be a solid mid-late round pick this year. Agreed, agreed
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Who even cares, Chris Thompson is going to catch all the passes and Redskins will have like a 75:25 pass:run ratio.
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Pain of Mind posted:Who has more value as a keeper in a 2 QB league? Sterling Shepard at 9 or Willie Snead at 13? Neither of them are that valuable, but need to submit a preliminary keeper roster and those are my only WR that might have some value at their draft spot. Snead did not do much after the first few weeks, but overall he got a touch more ppg than Shepard. Also, is Gore worth trying to keep at 9? Snead easily. Cooks left New Orleans, and Giants signed Brandon Marshall and a pass catching rookie tight end. Zombie Tsunami posted:Man, your Butt went way earlier than mine. They're all total long term stashes. Kittle in SF might get the earliest chance to relevance, but Jonnu is fine and could do something maybe in like 3 years. sourdough fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Silly Burrito posted:How high should I draft CMike? Melvin Gordon! Though I wouldn't think you're dumb if you have Freeman or McCoy there, they're a reasonable tier for me. Then Howard, Ajayi, probably Demarco in the next tier.
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Cervixalot posted:Melvin Gordon owns, YPC is an overrated and misleading metric. He caught a bunch of passes, broke tons of big plays, and yes, scored a bunch of TDs. Chargers invested into the o-line in the offseason, and added no RBs of note to challenge his workload, so it's wheels up on MG. All of this. Plus new head coach that should be ground game friendly. Gordon is a dynasty buy for me right now, exactly because people are rightly expecting his touchdown rate to dip but wrongly ignoring all the other massive positives he has going for him. sourdough fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:In Dynasty I was able to trade AP + 1.3 for 1.2 + 3.2. I think I won the gently caress out of that trade. Corey Davis get over here. Fournette went 1? You might've been able to get slightly more for AP from a believer and I don't think you murdered the other owner, but I would have done this too.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Kyle Rudolph was TE2 last year. MAYBE IT'S FINALLY TIME or maybe The Worst Position was actually some how worse last year so being the best at it actually really doesn't mean anything don't draft tight ends Since people may not believe it because you said it, do remember that TE was worse last year than usual. Bennett was like TE#7, would've been #13 or thereabouts in 2015. Position was more of a shitshow than usual. I do think Kelce owns and is entering that Greg Olsen tier of "locked in high end TE1 that is nevertheless not a game changer like Gronk". But not sure Maclin staying or leaving makes too big a difference either way.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:I need a sanity check here. I just got an offer (dynasty, 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex) of Davante Adams plus Gore plus 2.5 for Hyde and CJA. This would leave me with the following RBs: Gore, Perkins, Powell, Burkhead, West, Sproles. My WRs though would be: OBJ, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Adams, Crowder, Funchess, Aiken, Sharpe. The only hesitation I have is that Davante Adams might still be doodoo. Maybe it doesn't matter, as Rodgers needs someone to throw the ball too. But when I checked some efficiency stats from 2016 earlier this off season, Adams was like bottom third of 80ish qualified receivers in terms of things like drops, catch rate, red zone efficiency, other stuff I'm forgetting, while Jordy was still like top 25%. Like, Adams was at best average to mediocre, he just happened to get a little lucky with touchdowns and have little competition besides Jordy. Maybe I'm being unfair and he's really turned a corner, but I don't think he was dramatically better than 2015, he just had Jordy to soften up defenses for him and no one else to catch passes from Rodgers.
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Sure, but being actually good at football makes the guy more likely to keep getting opportunity.
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MrSargent posted:Do we also expect Cobb to look as bad as he did last year? I don't know, but he went 18-260-3 on 24 targets in three playoff games.
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Spoeank posted:Imagine drafting Melvin Gordon before Shady or Devonta or DeMarco Murray tho I'm imagining it and going to do it too! Also I love DT and Keenan in the 4th.
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