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Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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I honestly think this movie had one of the most visually touching/sad moments any of these movies have ever had, and it's such a short moment too. Mantis feeling Drax's sorrow/pain at the loss of his family and just breaking down in tears whilst he sits there blank.

In general I think this movie managed to do emotion really well, compared to some of the other Marvel Movies. But that might just be me caring more about these characters.

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Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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To be fair Literary Criticism does indirectly influence further works, in that by understanding and dissecting the text you can give suggestions to how to improve next time, not that anyone has to listen to these suggestions or that your suggestions are right; and particularly I doubt anyone making Marvel or DC movies is going to visit Something Awful Cinema Discusso to work out just where they should take their next superhero movie to make it a masterpiece, or a massive financial success for that matter.

Also Bravest he wasn't saying it isn't okay to engage in criticism, he's saying that criticism is inherently parasitic in that it requires a literary work in the first place and doesn't meaningfully provide to the creation of the literary work. This doesn't mean it has no worth, but it is an entirely reactionary process to the existence of the initial work.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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Neither of those images is particularly comedic, it's what happens after in Hitchhiker's that is the funny bit of that scene. Meanwhile the other is GotG being an action movie for a bit, seeing as it is an action comedy, it's not meant to be a comedic scene. It's meant to be Yondu is actually really dangerous and this scene shows it.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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I always took Mantis as an example of just why Ego is a really loving awful parent, beyond the whole murdered the rest of his children bar Peter thing, Ego literally raised her from birth and basically treats her as an extension of himself instead of her own person. Funnily enough this is also essentially what he thinks about Peter, or at least wishes Peter would be. Ego has no room for anything but himself, he cannot conceive of life other than his own having meaning unless it's to improve his own.

Drax, much like Yondu, is a counterpart to Ego as a father who has lost everything, but where Ego is a monster who murdered the love of his life and treats everyone, including his children whether biological or adopted, as lesser/extensions of himself. Drax, for all that he insults Mantis, never treats her as less than anyone else, in fact he treats her the same way he treats everyone. Or did you not notice that Drax basically insults and belittles everyone because he has no social grace whatsoever and is just kind of a blunt rear end in a top hat to people.

Far more important for how Drax treats Mantis is that when he reminisces about his wife and child instead of shutting her out he lets her feel his feelings, that is the bit to show you that for all that Drax considers her ugly he trusts her with something that he very clearly keeps away from the rest of his life for the most part. It also gives some insight to his own pain and sorrow that the rest of his personality normally hides.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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I'd argue that presenting it from a distance works better if you're going for an emphasis on cold, organic technology. Because the whole point is that this is the way one being sees other beings form a distance, you do not truly connect with the scene because Ego never truly connected with anyone. We get plenty of intimate sequences when the Guardians are among themselves because they do connect to one another on an emotional and familial level, in a way Ego never manages.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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Ego ends up requiring a "magic touch" to actually get Quill to fully accept his perspective, which is fitting given what Ego wants is another extension of himself, a child whose only purpose is to parrot the words of the parent.

As such seeing it from Ego's point of view, this disconnected stance, leads into the fact that he wouldn't have won Peter over without an actual intimate action. A touch which forces Peter to see exactly what Ego sees, and it still fails to totally subvert and replace Quill's personality.

Ego really is just going through the motions, he's playing catch without understanding why that actually matters, so in the end he has to actually change Quill directly so he can actually do to force the relationship Ego desires, and when that fails he falls back on outright force.

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Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

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BravestOfTheLamps posted:

The best joke in the franchise is when Star-Lord equates the loss of his Sony Walkman with the loss of his mother. It's almost profound in what great characterization it is. But for some reason people hate to see it recognized as a joke.

Because it's not a joke, at least not entirely. It's the last connection Peter Quill has of his mother, it is his last physical memory of her. It's destruction means the last thing, and in fact the only thing, he owns that he got from her is gone. As his last physical connection to her it has some pretty heavy emotional weight to him, it's destruction is to him as if he is losing her again.

Especially given not only was the Walkman destroyed but so was a mix-tape his mother specifically made for him, which whilst he may be able to recreate with his new music player it will not be the same mixtape his mother made him, it will only be an imitation.

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