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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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This guy clearly going for the UKMT vote - https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/415590/auschwitz-post-fife-candidate-suggests-tories-should-kill-themselves/.

"Former Labour member Deek Jackson, who came close to being selected as a party candidate, published a parody of a Conservative poster which superimposed an image of the Nazi death camp.

When challenged, he said: “Far from apologising, I think all Conservatives should commit suicide and the rid the planet of a parasitic life form robbing the rest of us of our birthright, a life free from exploitation."

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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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goddamnedtwisto posted:

The former star of my GE 2010-era avatar. Although as he stood against Brown and Milliband in 2010 and 2015 I really don't see how he got close to selection.

e: I knew I still had it somewhere:



Wow, who knew? Probably got close to selection 20 years ago, either that or Momentum have a hidden base in Fife.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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JFairfax posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYgE7O0OLyw

britain deserves everything its getting

I had never considered that our eventual smiting might be so ironic.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Purple Prince posted:

Barry's a great guy but he does have a tendency to recycle his talking points over and over again; he's very much a soundbite politician.

He is also very pro-nuclear which the current membership might not like.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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MikeCrotch posted:

Eh, nobody really gives that much of a gently caress about Trident. It's pretty far down the list of issues that are dealbreakers for people, I know people who are anti-nuke but are pretty much resigned to thew fact that getting socialist policies through are more important. Plus not backing Trident gets you in the poo poo with the trade unions.

I actually meant power rather than missiles. It's possible that makes no difference to your response though.

Edit: He is also pro trident.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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learnincurve posted:

There is being constructive in defeat and then there is pointing at everyone who disagrees with you and screaming RACIST. It annoys people who are not, and not many people who are actually racists are self aware enough to recognise that they are so it puts their backs up as well.

Who is doing this though? The vast majority of people still arguing about this tend to focus on the economics.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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dispatch_async posted:

Well, there is this kind of attitude:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/831071337850470400

Although I don't think he's calling all Leave voters racist scroungers, just all people who live outside London…

It does exist but one twat doesn't make a twitter.

As is suggested above I think a lot of the "DON'T CALL US RACIST" pleading is born from insecurity. It's pretty clear you don't have to be racist to be a Brexiter, you just voted the same way as all the racists. If you don't think of yourself as racist this may cause problems for your ego.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 10:15 on May 7, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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I have some time for softball interviews on occasion. You can often learn more when it's less adversarial. Conditions are that everyone gets a go and the gloves are off at other times.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Zephro posted:

The CPS have just said no charges in any of the election-spending cases.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39865801

Not surprised by this at all. Parties have always interpreted these rules, which are vague, in all sorts of 'interesting' ways. Crazy disappointed though, this might have knocked out any teeth the Electoral Commission could claim to have at a time when Aaron Banks is buying elections.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Labour should be blaming this on a lack.of resourcing. Wonder what the IT budget cuts have been like under Hunt?

Tories will say 'People have died, don't play politics.'

Response should be 'People have died because of your politics.'

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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jabby posted:

Corbyn really should release a statement firmly blaming this cyber attack on NHS under-investment, and emphasising how much it will cost to fix compared with how much it would have cost to prevent.

Yes, this should have happened hours ago.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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That levy on companies wanting to pay high wages is proper policy.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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namesake posted:

Plenty of policy gets reversed after public backlash but how common is it to force a change in a manifesto? It's right before an election and strong and stable governments don't have public u turns after all. I can see it going the distance to the election.

I was musing on this exact thing this morning, if it wasn't an election we would see a U-Turn and Hammond being thrown under the bus for it next week but I doubt they will reverse anything before the vote.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Coohoolin posted:

If SNP MPs would vote for a Corbyn government in parliament, than isn't a vote for the SNP a vote for Corbyn, especially when certain Scottish Labour candidates are explicitly anti-Corbyn?

A vote for the SNP is actually a vote for their bitter rivals is a pretty tough sell even for you Coohoolie. That's not to say I wouldn't back them in a Tory/SNP marginal, but in all other situations you would be far better voting Labour. The SNP can and will do what they want, that is as it should be. If you want something different vote for someone else.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Jose posted:

THe tories have done a u-turn on social care lol

This is tres good news, now there are going to be days of "What will the cap be?" Just adds to the uncertainty.

Edit: Or there should be, but the UK media so lol probs not.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Oh dear me posted:

No, it would have resulted in a Tory majority, as happened when people stopped tactically voting LibDem, because we have FPTP and most of the LibDems' 2010 seats were LibDem-Tory battlegrounds.

My constituency was LibDem 2010, Tory 2015. Most websites advising people on how to vote tactically still argue that we should vote LibDem here, but they are currently polling in 3rd place behind Labour. There is no chance they will win, so I can happily vote Labour this time because this is our opportunity to establish Labour as the tactical anti-Tory vote in this constituency. But if the LibDems started doing better I might have to reconsider, painful though that would be.

What constituency out of interest? Keen to look at the numbers.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Oh dear me posted:

St Austell & Newquay.

Steve GIlbert's old constituency, that is a really interesting one. I think the LDs will likely come second at least, I can see from my Facebook feed (know the former campaign manager) they are pouring in a lot of resource. Can't see it happening either but might be very close.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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pointsofdata posted:

Why is it good news? A cap only helps wealthy families.

It is good news in terms of Labour's campaign, it's not good news for poor people. It was announced by the Tories.

Edit: See they have announced the number, not sure if that helps them to be honest.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Pissflaps posted:

People sometimes pretend door to door canvassing figures are 'polling' but those people are idiots.

I know they it is not the same thing as a poll, but if you have good canvassing you can use it to predict the outcome of an election extremely accurately.

Edit: Getting enough data to do this well is hard.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 12:29 on May 22, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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baka kaba posted:

When May first started doing PMQs, what struck me was she seemed to want to actually engage in a debate and explain things. It was like her and Corbyn having something approaching a discussion while the rest of the chamber went RAAAHHH HURRRR. A week or two later someone had explained how things work, and she was doing the practiced soundbites and non-responses as usual

She's not very good at it

Obviously I am desperate to get rid of her as PM but regardless that is a massive shame. The way the media pantomime serves to shut down debate is a crime.

Pissflaps posted:

Corbyn in a balaclava

Don't post this, they might read it.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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thehappyprince posted:

this would probably work better if they weren't stepping aside for the tories in numerous seats tbh

People don't pay much attention, however I think it would probably work if their campaign wasn't an utter shambles.

I don't know what I want here, it could damage the Tories but if it means a UKIP comeback that might be too high a price. On the other hand the racists are still there regardless so meh.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:

With the speech Corbyn is meant to be making today I think we will see the gain in the polls melting away.

The speech overall reads fine but this section is going to go down like a lead balloon.

"That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions.

But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism.

We must be brave enough to admit the ‘war on terror’ is simply not working. We need a smarter way to reduce the threat from countries that nurture terrorists and generate terrorism."


The British public do not seem open to taking a nuanced position on terrorism at the moment.

Labour should have just let UKIP jump up and down about police cuts, whilst pointing at their own policy to increase police numbers by 10,000.

No they shouldn't. There are still behind and probably by a distance. They need to take risks.

Time will tell re. the line above but I don't think the UK public has any particular love for the war on terror. The first two things that come to mind when I hear that phrase are Blair and America. No-one wants to be associated with either at the moment.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Oberleutnant posted:

:toot:

Friday is starting well.

This is obviously amazing, that racist cannot be told to gently caress off enough.

Even better though is that I think it reflects a change in narrative. It started following Brexit but to me seems to be gaining momentum after the Manchester attacks. I don’t know what caused it but it no longer seems to be as socially acceptable to blame everything on foreigns. Genuinely think the racists and xenophobes are being marginalised again.

Wishful thinking? Reading too much of my own Facebook? Regardless there will be a ton of kicking and screaming before they go back in their box.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 10:39 on May 26, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Noxville posted:

Isn't it the case that polls have generally always used a persons claimed likeleyhood if voting as the weighting until now and some have just hanged it after the 2015 polls being wrong? Perhaps 2015 was an aberration rather than the new norm.

Lots of factors - claimed likelihood, voting record, age, economic bracket, length of.time at address etc. - will be part of all firms models. They make minor tweaks to them constantly but rarely major changes as it breaks continuity. You are no longer comparing like with like in terms of your own numbers.

There has been a general feeling that classic models weren't doing the business for a while. Yougov were still doing things like weighting by what newspaper respondents read but struggling to find enough readers of many papers to meet their quota. Then there was 2015 which was such a mess for some big firms that they have been forced to reassess. The indy ref was also bad for some.

Rather than an outlier therefore, 2015 was more the latest stage in a progression. However that doesn't mean firms necessarily have their models right now. Some smaller and newer firms did well in 2015. It will be very interesting to see who comes out on top.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 29, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Jakabite posted:

Could this actually happen?

http://ind.pn/2rbzUgU

I still doubt it however (for my sins) I was watching Victoria Derbyshire this morning and was genuinely shocked at the pasting the Tories were taking from the public on all sorts of issues - particularly social care but also terrorism and the NHS. It was like the room was rigged.

VVV This could be true but could also be a good sign that they are genuinely concerned about how motivated their vote are.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 11:33 on May 29, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Scikar posted:

It's from John Harris on Anywhere But Westminster, but I can't find the actual tweet with the video. And yes it does seem like a crazy strategy, so many people in vox pops have been saying "I agree with Corbyn but I'm not going to vote for him because he can't win" so surely the Tories saying "actually, he can" would backfire massively.

I think they have confused their caricature of Corbyn with the public's current opinion of him.

It's a lot to do with the broken electoral system and basic human psychology but man does people's desire to be on the winning team get tedious.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Scikar posted:

This comes up a lot and it stems from a belief that all power is equal, regardless of its source. We get our power from base load, peak load, and intermittent sources. The base load is what you always need so the plants run full time, and are mostly coal and nuclear. The peak load can be quickly ramped up to meet demand and is mostly provided by gas, and intermittent covers all the renewables that are nice to have but can't be quickly switched on and off.

This is an important point in the main but you're wrong.about renewables. They can be switched on and off very quickly. The big things holding.them back are grid infrastructure (needed to address demand flexibly) and battery technology so we can store what they generate and use it as baseload. There are people working on these problems but scalable solutions are a few years out.

For those interested in SMRs the Government is running a huge competition between three competing techs currently. These things are very slow.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Scikar posted:

Energy storage tech is more than "a few years out". What do we do in the mean time? Burn coal?

Burn straw men perhaps (we're actually planning to use gas, although our margin is mad tight - for the UK).

People have storage demonstrators running all over Europe. The UK has just awarded a bunch of contracts for the first commercial sites. Mass deployment isn't imminent but it will be possible technically within a few years. It will then need to get better.

Scikar posted:

To be honest I really don't see why this argument always comes up, it seems pretty obvious that we should maximise our usage of renewables to cut down on the amount of horrible poo poo we need to deal with, whether that's fossil fuels or radioactive waste. And then when you do look at what's left, you realise you still need something that is always on, and nuclear is a much better option than coal. Nuclear and renewables go hand in hand if you care about the environment and energy security.


I agree entirely.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 13:49 on May 29, 2017

Zalakwe
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Lightning Lord posted:

Can't you just put the UK on stilts?

Perhaps put it on a barge, it will have to be strong and stable.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Gum posted:

There are a surprisingly large number of experts here. Like Jakiri is a physicist who iirc has done work on nuclear power in the past (A post-grad thing? Can't remember)

That will make him one of the most qualified young(ish-think he said early 30s before) people in the country.

Edit: Not offence Jakiri I also consider myself youngish.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 29, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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Guavanaut posted:

Those decorative 'vintage style' bulbs where the filament never gets above yellow-orange seem to be in style now too.

I was chatting to a guy who was installing them as part of refitting the offices of my pretentious old job and he told me you used to be able to get 1000 of those for a tenner and now they are fifteen quid each.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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forkboy84 posted:

Nothing will end well for Scotland. Such is our history.

Please no Scottish cringe Forkboy. We need to stop telling ourselves this. It's not only bullshit but self fulfilling bullshit.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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forkboy84 posted:

Well, that & whenever I watch the national football team.

Now you have me at it.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
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This is truly top bants. Particularly since they are still behind. A risk, yes, but a calculated one. Timing is brilliant.

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Zalakwe
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mediadave posted:

yeah, this could go very good or very bad. If he make one flub, that's all that will get wrote about or played.

Also suggests that Labour feel the momentum stalling or slipping, if they're willing to take a chance like that.

I agree to an extent but they had to do this. They are still behind which means taking risks - momentum or not. He has natural allies in Farron and Sturgeon who are both primarily facing down the Tories and if everyone gangs up on him it will just make him look like the Prime Minister.

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