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Just watching Theresa May giving a speech. My goodness, she's an AWFUL public speaker. She looks nervous as hell.
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Oberleutnant posted:Looks like they're really trying to capitalise on Theresa May being literally the most popular politician in British history. The press and the hardliners in her party will turn on her like rabid dogs as soon as the inevitable Brexit compromises begin. I still can't understand why she even wants the job of Prime Minister, unless she really is too dull to understand how it's going to turn out for her.
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May 2, 2017 20:32
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In the comments on Guardian Live, a journalist is specifically stating that they've not heard anything and aren't holding any news back: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/04/general-election-2017-polls-open-local-council-mayoral-politics-live So it kind of looks like a rumour that grew legs.
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May 4, 2017 07:23
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MikeCrotch posted:Again, there isn't a cult of personality around Corbyn, it's just that people signed up to vote for him because he's the only explicit socialist who ran either time. If someone more polished who is also a confirmed socialist ran, people would probably vote for them. So far, that hasn't been a option. Yeah, I voted for Corbyn the 1st time round because the alternatives were so poo poo. Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper going: "we lost because we just were'nt grey enough, were'nt timid enough, didn't triangulate hard enough. If we double down on the greyness and timidity and triangulation, we'll surely win next time round!" And Liz Kendell with her hot take that in order to beat the Tories, Labour must become the Tories. The 2nd time around, it was Corbyn or Owen Smith. As soon as a better alternative to Corbyn comes up, I'll cheerfully vote for them instead but for all the triumphant denunciatons of Corbyn from the Labour establishment, alternatives remain strikingly thin on the ground!
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May 6, 2017 13:31
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MikeCrotch posted:"You can't fire me, I quit!!!" Lol Danczuk's desperately been trying to get fired for yonks, so he can play the martyr and big up his inevitable subsequent career as a shithead newspaper columnist. Corbyn has very sensibly refused to do so, forcing him to slink off under his own steam and spoil his magnificent exit.
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May 8, 2017 19:33
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hakimashou posted:People disagree about what makes society fairer. "A fair society is one where people get to keep what they earn! I work hard to support my family: why should I lose half of that in taxes just to subsidise a bunch of irresponsible scroungers?" *Someone who's veeeeery sure that he'll never ever lose his well-paying job, or become seriously ill and unable to work.*
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May 9, 2017 06:57
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Labour also promising to nationalise water companies too. This can only be a good thing - I work for a private equity-owned water company and know what a loving joke the current setup is (monopolised, captive customer base, company loaded up with debt which is then extracted through dividend payouts, money shuffled through multiple layers of shell companies, profit goes to the private equity owners, risk lands straight on the tax payer). The sooner it's nationalised, the better imo.
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May 16, 2017 07:47
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LemonDrizzle posted:ukmt may: actually, inherited wealth is very cool and good if you think about it Well, exactly. People have been moaning and pissing in these threads about how inheritance divides the country into haves and have-nots and entrenches privilege in certain families for as long as I can remember. And now, when a Tory (!) finally proposes to DO something about it, it's suddenly a disgrace. The cost of elderly care is a looming crisis, it's got to be paid for somehow and I'd much rather see it funded through hitting the mountain of wealth that the current elderly generation are sat on than see the working-age generation taxed even more on the income that they go out and work for.
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May 18, 2017 18:48
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Lots of people ITT getting antsy about their prospective inheritances diminishing lol.
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May 18, 2017 20:04
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If people in a Commie thread like this dislike this change to inheritence, actual Tory voters must REALLY be hating it.
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May 18, 2017 21:47
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So many people in this thread fixated on how their inheritance will secure their future so long as it's not snatched away, like they're characters in a Victorian novel or something. The familial and legal machinations around a senile relative's death and the conflict over whether their fortune goes to their children or the State would actually make for a cracking 19th century plot. I think Wilkie Collins would be the best author, providing he could stay off the drugs for 5 minutes straight.
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May 19, 2017 19:22
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Lol if the election results in a hung parliament.
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May 22, 2017 05:50
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George Osborne sat at home, smirking at the tv screen: "Not as easy as you thought it was going to be, eh?  "
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May 22, 2017 14:16
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9/11 was the last time I was as worried about the future as I am now.
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May 22, 2017 14:36
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Watching Theresa May being interviewed by Andrew Neil now and WHAT THE HELL IS SHE WEARING AROUND HER NECK
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May 22, 2017 19:04
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Andrew Neil pressing May hard and she is NOT enjoying it lol
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May 22, 2017 19:07
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I'm glad I'm not taking a shot every time she accuses Corbyn of "playing politics" 'cos I'd be dead by now.
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May 22, 2017 19:10
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Incy posted:
Unscripted questions are NOT her strong point, as this interview is making clear.
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May 22, 2017 19:16
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"Yes, you've made that point several times, Prime Minister..."
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May 22, 2017 19:18
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Well, that performance has to have knocked another few points off the Conservative lead.
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May 22, 2017 19:28
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Reader comments in the Guardian and the FT AND the Daily Mail all strongly negative towards Theresa May tonight, that's... quite the spread of opinion. I mean, you'd kind of expect the Guardian to be against her but the other two?
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May 22, 2017 21:09
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TheRat posted:1) Salt water heavily Yeah except that many people define cooked as "An overboiled soggy mess".
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May 22, 2017 21:30
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:We would he warn of what he was going to do? Seems more likely to be fake to me Home-grown Uk Islamic terrorists have a long record of doing remarkably dumb things. 4 Lions was actually a pretty accurate depiction of how they carry on. My suspicion in this case though is that the attacker was a lone guy with the discipline to keep his mouth shut about what he was planning, instead of posting about it all over Twitter and Facebook like these guys usually do.
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May 23, 2017 08:28
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I was in Paris a few months back; they had troops on the streets and metal detectors and bag searches at the museums and art galleries. If there's more of theee attacks, I guess we'll be going down that route.
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May 23, 2017 08:38
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MoaM posted:Guess Corbyn/Labor surging in polls will be a wash come next week; not that polls are the end all of elections or anything. I feel really awful and hope everyone in Manchester comes out OK. I give it 24 hours until the Tories are using this as an example of why Britain needs Strong and Stable government and accusing Corbyn of tacitly supporting the killings.
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May 23, 2017 08:40
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Islamic terrorists in the UK tend to be petty criminals and social misfits rather than mentally ill.
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May 23, 2017 09:50
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Hoops posted:UK pollsters got Brexit and the 2015 GE so wrong that I've got a half-hunch they may have overcorrected their modelling of shy voters, leading to an overestimate of Tory support. Although equally they may just be wrong again and The Tories will beat polling. I kind of think it may be the other way round in this election and the pollsters are missing 'shy Labourites', people who feel uncomfortable admitting they're voting for Corbyn but are going to go ahead and do it on the day.
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May 28, 2017 15:47
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Corbs keeping his cool here pretty well.
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May 29, 2017 21:04
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The problem with all of Paxman's 'hard' questions was that none of them were new: Corbyn's had all this stuff thrown at him before and wasn't going to be disconcerted by it. Audience didn't seem to be too keen on Paxman either. Now lets see how Theresa May does.
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May 29, 2017 21:15
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Don't try to explain, reassure! Dammit May!
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May 29, 2017 21:22
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She's deffo nervous. Talking too fast and getting those hunched shoulders again.
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May 29, 2017 21:24
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serious gaylord posted:The crowd have turned. she shouldn't have mentioned costed manifestos... people have noticed.
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May 29, 2017 21:29
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Oberleutnant posted:more good and/or excellent schools All pupils should be above average!
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May 29, 2017 21:32
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ageing society... strong economy... a good Brexit...
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May 29, 2017 21:37
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namesake posted:Reminder that Brexit is actually going to be conducted by a series of total amateurs on our side with May getting increasingly angry at them when they don't immediately get all of her points in the agreement. Yeah, most people, including most interviewers, don't seem to understand that the exit negotiations won't actually be carried out by national leaders.
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May 29, 2017 22:07
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Also, Paxman's definitely past his prime. He's lost sight of the fact that the aggressive interviewing stance is supposed to be a means to an end, rather than an end in itself.
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May 29, 2017 22:09
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TheRat posted:Man who utterly hates Corbyn (James Forsyth) from paper that utterly hates Corbyn (Spectator): The Spectator is very much allied to the posh boy faction of the Conservative leadership and has serious reservations about Theresa May. I suspect they're thinking very seriously about calling for her to be toppled if the election result is a damp squib for the Tories.
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May 29, 2017 22:32
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BillBear posted:People are telling me the audience shat on May horribly and that near the end only one guy got up to clap for her? Please tell me that is true, I didn't get to watch it. Eh, she was less than impressive but she got through it without making GBS threads herself and collapsing on stage, which is what the thread was hoping for.
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May 29, 2017 22:34
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thehappyprince posted:dan hodges has been wrong about pretty much every major political decision of the last 5 years. no idea why people still humour him as some kind of astute commentator. He's hit that 'fossilisation' phase, where a formerly reasonably astute and open minded journalist freezes their thoughts and opinions at a certain point and becomes utterly unable to develop them any further, becoming increasingly bitter and uncomprehending as the rest of the world gradually moves on from them. Notable examples of this include Dan Hodges, John Rentoul and Nick Cohen.
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A strong conservative supporter that I know has just posted on Facebook that he can't vote Tory after seeing Theresa May on the debate the other night and his right wing friends are agreeing in the comments. I've known him for years and never seen him talk like that before. Low turnout of Tory voters on election day, maybe?
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