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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

LemonDrizzle posted:

A multi-speed Europe has been the reality more or less since the show got on the road, and £290 billion of exports is not a huge deal in the context of an economic bloc with a GDP of around 14 trillion.

there isn't a picture of stalin here

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Praseodymi posted:

If we're going to do alternate history fanfiction can't we do something interesting.

I'm going to imagine the Soviets just kept going after Berlin and the world is now full communism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhlSiCk0ME

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

there's no telling how much or if any repressive apparatuses would be necessary in a world without imperialism though. im optimistic so i would hope for "none"

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Namtab posted:

I would think that an authoritarian form of communism would still find plenty of ways to oppress people even without imperialism

the means would exist but not the reason. that's my point

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

hakimashou posted:

I do though. Just because something is a meme in the thread doesn't mean it's true.

This is the thread that thinks corbyn is good, remember.

should the united states have used nuclear weapons on the soviet union at any point in history

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

hakimashou posted:

Only if it would have saved more lives than it cost.

are there any points in time in which that would be a realistic expectation

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

forkboy84 posted:

The poo poo Tankie gimmick mod defending Nazis is the funniest party of his entire dumb gimmick.

when he posts nazi poo poo he gets the hammer, just like last time

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

forkboy84 posted:

Who cares about the probation? I just think it's hilarious that the pretend Tankie is protecting the Nazi from the rude people telling him to gently caress off.

report bad posts and take your issues to pms or qcs. gc is on the thinnest of ice for as long as i'm modding this forum and telling him to gently caress off feeds his persecution complex

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Evil_Urna posted:

NATO is really the only reason why the Soviets were never able to advance further. Without the umbrella of protection that America provided to Europe, you would have lost everything that made you unique and great. NATO kept you safe from the communist hordes. NATO kept the world from descending into an atomic hellfire.

lol

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

guy who posts about the scary "communist hordes" and praises thatcher also does "ironic" nazism in gbs, color me surprised

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Evil_Urna posted:

I am so owned, not my public post history.

dont post here

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jose posted:

you said it was really weird that a poster did this about you in the russia thread lmao

they dug into posts from all the way back in january by doing a directed forums search, that was on the guy's first page

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

that guys banned if he posts here again and im genuinely a marxist-leninist. cheers

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

both paragraphs are wholly correct. marxism and the national question by dread captain stalin is considered the foundational document on the issue

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

most "internationalist" critiques of the soviet union either willfully or unknowingly ignore the importance of imperialism in dictating the ussr's options and actions, especially considering the context of the desperate interwar period. it's ahistorical and goes against materialism entirely

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

for instance it is possible to (correctly) decry the second world war as a conflict between imperialist forces and also acknowledge those forces, up to the last possible moment, uniformly wished for the ussr to be destroyed and for socialism to survive it was necessary to take unsavory precaution against an attack on the unprepared red army

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

hm yes pointing out context IS the same thing as saying the ussr never made a mistake, right you are posters

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

OfficialGBSCaliph posted:

My mistake he totally was excusing atrocities but he wasn't saying the USSR made a mistake, my apologies tankie mod!

i was referring to the specific policies mentioned by the person i was quoting i.e. appeasement and the non-aggression pact. this is a topic for another thread. also you're a tremendous moron

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jose posted:

You had a thread for it and you came off like an idiot

that's not what the thread was for. it is time to shut the gently caress up about this now

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Dabir posted:

so much for the toleratn left

lmao

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

tbf if the internet over the past 20 years has taught us anything it's that the chinese don't go far enough and the whole thing should be destroyed

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jose posted:

I hope you've got a VPN ready since they blocked sa

im getting an expressvpn equipped router

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

forkboy84 posted:

Is it as embarrassing as being unable to spell embarrassing?

So what is an example of a socialist state then, shitposter Randarkman? In an essay of under 1,000 words please explain how Nordic social democracy no longer counts as socialism. Take your time. In fact, take the rest of your life writing it, so we never have to read one of your posts again.

that guy sucks but he is right that scandinavia isn't socialist

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Tesseraction posted:

Sup HexP welcome to the hottest thread in D&D right now

*grins stalinly*

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Oberleutnant posted:

What good is a stalinist who doesnt even keep out the nazis anyway, eh

i think i got all of them but if any more crop up use the report button

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

NathanScottPhillips posted:

What are you gonna purge me with? You have no right to arms so you can't fight me physically. You've sold out your freedom of speech for virtue signalling so you can't use ideas to fight me either.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

khwarezm posted:

Oh good Fog Tripper is here, lets get some sage wisdom:

Hmm, yes, yes.

lmao

as a "sneak peek" inside the wide wild world of modship that guy reported like five people because they were mean to the racists

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Fog Tripper posted:

Hmm yes, I too like to pull probations brought about by people reporting a view of a religion as racism and post it out of context.
In context that post was a reply to someone saying what amounts to all immigrants acted the same a century ago in the USA.


How about posting what the actual posts I reported were, since you are outing reports. I reported people who's contributions to the thread boiled down to "get out of our forum, fascist cunts". I mistakenly thought that clear poo poo posting was verboten in here. You wonder why the subforum has a notoriety for being an echochamber of virtue signalling.

trap sprung

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Blue Raider posted:

How is this explicitly racist poo poo acceptable? How is this poster not probated into next month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_wEs9x7G3w

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

please do not recommend the works of literal anti-communist snitch george orwell in the ostensibly leftist thread

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

the soviet union betrayed spain by being the only country to send aid of any kind to the republicans

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

spectralent posted:

I thought the soviets betrayed spain because they wanted all their gold?

that would be a pretty stupid motive, financially

quote:

The total weapons bill is quite important in assessing whether or not the Spaniards received fair exchange for their gold. The value of the gold sent to Moscow was approximately $518 million. As we have seen, the gold was converted into hard currency and applied toward the purchase of weapons in Russia and other wartime financing in Paris. In 1937 alone, $256 million was transferred from Moscow to the Republic's Eurobank account. 31 Per our estimate above, at least an additional $250 million or more was spent on Soviet arms over the course of the war. If to that $506 million we add at least $70 million and possibly as much as $155 million in loans which were never repaid, it would appear that Moscow could not have turned a monetary profit on the Spanish Civil War. 32

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Oberleutnant posted:

There's a wonderful stalinist poster from the civil war which depicts an anarchist militiaman with his face being ripped off, revealing a swastika daubed monstrous demon face underneath. Now, when I need it most, I can't find it.

i'm looking for it now and have come to the conclusion old propaganda posters are extremely bad rear end

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

PISSFLAPS AND YOU

reply to pissflaps if you are capable of doing so like a normal person without whining about how much you can't stand pissflaps and his posting

if you are not capable of doing this, shut the gently caress up about pissflaps and do whatever it takes to not be bothered with him

i am going to start probing all parties in pissflaps-related derails and encourage posters itt to report those who cannot abide by this rule

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

nopantsjack posted:

I'm probably going to pick up a probe for just replying to this but could you not just ban flaps?

maybe. we'll see how this goes

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