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cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015

OwlFancier posted:

Isn't there a thing where it's higher if you're in a position of authority over the person?

If being an MP doesn't count for that it should, given their proclivities.

By that logic MP's wouldn't be able to have sex with anyone. Well, anyone who isnt an MP, royalty, or large Tory donor.

EDIT: Or a pig*

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cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015
The Labour party itself is a socialist party, the idea that a socialist running it is some sort of extreme case of entryism is a compliment to Tony Blair and his lot.

cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015
Nazi cunts should be told to gently caress off every time they make a noise imho.

cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Yeah this is totally what a functioning market looks like

You can't operate the NHS as some kind of state monopoly, it would never work. Just look the entire history of the NHS, the key feature is privatisation.

cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015

fridge corn posted:

Ive been a professional mechanic for 15 years and never in my life have I been witness to bullying to such extremes. That being said, killing oneself seems to be a rather severe solution to a problem where a more appropriate response would have been just to quit, imo. The judge was correct not to deem the dudes coworkers at fault for his death despite the fact that theyre clearly despicable ppl

I don't mean to dog-pile on you dude, but the article even says "on the evening before his death, George had been pacing around the house, saying "I have to quit, I can't go back there" over and over again."

But his Dad told him they were only having a laugh and that things would get beter.

And just to be totally clear on what actually happened, an 18 year old boy was being beaten, verbally abused, locked in a cage and set on fire, by a large group of older men, including his bosses, who would greet him of the moring joking about the fact he hadn't killed himself yet, and when he went home and tried to quit he was told he was being 'dramatic' and to just suck it up and get on with it.

At 18, if your life had turned into a SAW film, and you were told that it was normal, and that you now had to spend the rest of your life getting up and going to a horrible place to be tortured and tormented, would you not think about killing yourself?

I mean this was a child, in a situation where even an adult would be driven to extremes.

EDIT: And just to be clear, I think they should be put on trial for manslaughter at least.

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cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015

fridge corn posted:

Im not saying he's entirely to blame for killing himself but there's obviously a ton of contributing factors resulting in the dude topping himself so where do you quantify the culpability? What would they be charged with? I suppose the dude who set him alight could be charged with something except the victim is not around any more to press charges??

Okay, now I am joining the dog-pile.

If you and a large group of older men, who are in a position of authority over an 18 year old boy, torture that boy regularly, and joke about how you're suprised he hasnt killed himself when he comes back into work, then you are responsible when he actually does commit suicide.

And the logic that you can set an 18 year old boy on fire and get away with it as long as you make sure he kills himself before pressing charges is both stupid and disgusting.

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