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Rigged Death Trap posted:Blair: "Labour went and a clawed back a positively meager number of points in the polls? On leftist policy? Well this just wont do." He's on of those old fashioned politicians who thinks that being able to form a government is important.
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forkboy84 posted:And the way to do this is by pointing out factional differences in the middle of a general election campaign? That doesn't sound like a good way to win an election. It's his campaign. He won three elections though so he might now something about winning them.
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Not So Fast posted:Pissflaps this line is getting as tired as "Strong and stable government". I didn't bring up the subject. Having said that: you're wrong. jBrereton posted:In six months' time, I'm sure JC will have won as many elections within 2 years as Blair managed in 10. I get this.
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Banks may be increasingly reluctant to fund properties rented to people on housing benefit because the introduction of universal credit will lead to increased arrears among such tenants.
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jabby posted:Erm, what? He's specifically said that he would prefer to lose an election than win on a platform he didn't agree with. In that regard he's exactly what you accuse Corbyn supporters of being. He formed governments based on the platform he argued for. There's no contradiction there.
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Regarde Aduck posted:And he specifically said he wouldn't want to win on a leftist platform. So why would anyone other than you, who appears to not care about the ideology of the party, want a Blairite government in power? Why do you even attempt to debate us? We at least like to think of ourselves as left wing. Blair doesn't want to be left wing. Why do you keep bringing up Blair? I want a centre left labour government. That's not out of kilter with the ideology of the Labour Party. Also, I didn't bring up Blair. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 12:39 on May 1, 2017 |
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jabby posted:Would you rather have Corbyn's Labour or the Tories? In government? Corbyn's labour.
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Pochoclo posted:^^^^ Isn't The Mirror the Sun's version of the Mail's group Metro? Erm no.
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May 1, 2017 14:47
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MikeCrotch posted:Good news: the NEC have approved the socialist Labour candidate for the GE in my constituency. Very glad since the alternative was a literal Blue Labour guy (the previous candidate stood down since he'd lost twice to the Tory MP already) Which constituency? Will be interesting to see how much better he does.
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LemonDrizzle posted:
This country is led by morons.
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Looke posted:those numbers don't add up They add up to 82.
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May 1, 2017 20:29
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The Tories are shite. May is hopeless. Their campaign is garbage. Their Brexit position unravelling. And they're going to walk this election. Imagine what could have been if Labour had even a half way decent leadership team instead of the shower of shite its lumbered with.
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May 1, 2017 20:32
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kecske posted:Do any of the polling companies ever have a census or something, where we can see the demographic they're using for polling? All BPC members release data tables for their published polls so you can see the breakdown of how different types of people are answering.
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May 1, 2017 20:35
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. PM me if you'd like some techniques for coping with being on the receiving end of personal attacks. I can help.
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OwlFancier posted:The technique is be creepy in PMs. How would you know you don't have PMs.
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May 1, 2017 20:58
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Praseodymi posted:If we're going to do alternate history fanfiction can't we do something interesting. Considering the possibility of a different labour leader on events right now is hardly alternate loving history get a grip.
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May 1, 2017 23:31
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Benjamin Arthur posted:You playing make believe that a moderate Labour leader would certainly be doing far better than Corbyn despite all recent elections showing that's not the case is pretty much alternative history fanfiction. I actually said 'half way decent' but if you want to conflate that with 'moderate' that's your prerogative. I'll be sure to use this great new 'alternate history' line whenever anybody suggests literally anything could or should be different.
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Prince John posted:I'd like a pony please. Sorry that's alternate history. No pony for you.
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May 1, 2017 23:43
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Benjamin Arthur posted:Tedious pedantry aside; being a moderate is pretty obviously the main requisite for you to consider them "half way decent", why else would you rather Cooper or Kendall? Yes yes of course I'm being a 'pedant' because I'm expecting you to at least reply to things that were said rather than something you imagined.
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May 1, 2017 23:47
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Tesseraction posted:Pissflaps is actually a very serious political player, that's why he argues all day and late into the night on an internet forum instead of doing anything constructive about the politics he cares about enough to spend all day and late into the night whining about. I'm not a very serious political player. I'm just a voter.
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May 1, 2017 23:51
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Benjamin Arthur posted:Labour supporters who campaign enthusiastically for Corbyn however are actually just playing into the Tories hands. Well, yes.
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May 1, 2017 23:54
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Tesseraction posted:Why do you spend so much time arguing about politics without bothering to engage in the democratic process at an equivalent rate? I engage with it exactly as much as I want to.
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Benjamin Arthur posted:Because you don't actually care at all beyond being smug in this thread on a daily basis. We all know this. Being right about how Corbyn has turned out brings me little pleasure.
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Namtab posted:You decided to vote? I always do. I hope you can join me in voting this coming election.
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May 2, 2017 00:17
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I like the police policy but I'm concerned that labour are going to harm their credibility if they keep trying to use the same source of funding for multiple spending commitments.
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She's not very good is she.
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MikeCrotch posted:I like how in these days of Trump and Brexit people think "gotchas" like this have any value with the public I think the person or idea has to have some sort of initial popularity for car crash media to be ineffective. Abbott is already known to be bobbins. Stuff like this just confirms it.
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May 2, 2017 10:09
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Seaside Loafer posted:She rubs me up the wrong way for some reason, cant quite put my finger on it. If im going to be completely trite her voice annoys me which is no good reason to judge a person at all so thats more my failing than hers. It's because she sounds at the same time patronising and unconvincing.
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May 2, 2017 10:12
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You could hear the frantic rustling of papers. She'll be alright though she's Jeremy's mate.
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It's ok https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/859338472041132033 Jeremy is not embarrassed.
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jabby posted:To be fair it sounds like Abbott initially misread the headline cost as £300,000 (instead of £300 million), got flustered and stumbled over several other figures before finding the bit of her notes with the cost breakdown and reading it out. I liked the bits where she just invented the £80 million figure and then promised to recruit a million policemen.
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jabby posted:In the last weeks presumably they won't get a chance, as Labour have promised a fully costed manifesto. So it's the PLPs fault that Abbott is loving terrible. I see.
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Pochoclo posted:
I have it was really disappointing.
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Pochoclo posted:Nevermind, I concede, nuke my country, tia Try any funny business with the Falklands again and you might just get your wish.
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El Grillo posted:Uh... What the gently caress happened here http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-02/...nterview-gaffe/ Dianne Abbott happened.
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Ratjaculation posted:Oh man I can't believe someone got their numbers messed up lol 'lol it's just numbers' -Dianne Abbott
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Praseodymi posted:I get that it's pretty poo poo to gently caress up an interview like that, but do you think they just wing it when it comes to implementing the policy for real? I think all parties wing it from time to time. The idea is to not look like you are.
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jabby posted:Abbott doesn't interview well. Neither apparently does Dawn Butler. But on one level you can't complain about the lack of competent politicians on the front bench and also applaud the people you think should be there for refusing to take those jobs. Not sure why not. Corbyn as leader is untenable. This is what happens when a party leader stays in post without the backing of his MPs. Having said that, Abbott isn't going anywhere while Corbyn is in charge whatever other MPs do.
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