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Amy Pole Her posted:Wrong thread earlier One of the smartest things you can do with young group of African Americans is treat them like second class citizens.
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It's neither the Character nor Good Teammate Hall of Fame. By any metric, among any eligible receivers, he's only behind Moss's redneck rear end as to who should be in.
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May 31, 2017 22:03
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Also TO wasn't really playing when I started watching football obsessively and I never really saw any of his highlights until just now, god drat was he amazing.
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May 31, 2017 22:05
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TO's only fault is not being able to play all the positions at once.
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May 31, 2017 22:07
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MacheteZombie posted:TO's only fault is not being able to play all the positions at once. The guy's QB's were like Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb and Romo. Who really had it better? You don't gotta make fun of Garcia either, TO already called him a fag.
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May 31, 2017 22:11
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Kalli posted:The guy's QB's were like Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb and Romo. Who really had it better? You don't gotta make fun of Garcia either, TO already called him a fag. Jerry Rice?
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May 31, 2017 22:12
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Wes Welker?
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Jerry Rice? Yeah or Marvin for that matter. But like, compare what he had to deal with to like Andre Johnson or like the rest of those guys for the decade+ they spent not around Kurt Warner. Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Wes Welker? I'm going to presume Wes ain't making it in for a long long time if ever. It'd be pretty dumb if he sniffed it before TO.
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May 31, 2017 22:14
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Kalli posted:Yeah or Marvin for that matter. But like, compare what he had to deal with to like Andre Johnson or like the rest of those guys for the decade+ they spent not around Kurt Warner. larry fitzgerald getting 1100 yards (8th in the league) and 90 receptions (5th) in 2011 with derek anderson, john skelton, and max hall was superhuman
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May 31, 2017 22:21
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consider it from this perspective: that terrell owens was able to be a loving incredible player despite being a poor enough teammate that the other players, coaches, and managers all hated him is truly remarkable especially in a team sport
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May 31, 2017 22:25
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Kalli posted:The guy's QB's were like Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb and Romo. Who really had it better? You don't gotta make fun of Garcia either, TO already called him a fag. Jeff Garcia is the Bucs best QB of all time. Also, by the middle of the 2018 season, Jameis Winston will be the Bucs ALL TIME leader in passing yards (if he stays healthy). With a good season this year he could be the franchise leader in TD passes. What a sad franchise.
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May 31, 2017 22:28
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wandler20 posted:Jeff Garcia is the Bucs best QB of all time. Who was worse, the Lions when they didn't win a game, or the Bucs when they started like 0-24?
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May 31, 2017 22:33
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The Bucs. There have been way worse teams than that 0-16 Lions squad.
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May 31, 2017 22:34
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whiteyfats posted:Who was worse, the Lions when they didn't win a game, or the Bucs when they started like 0-24? Bucs. They were complete poo poo. They were outscored 412-125 in the first year. They did make the NFC Championship in year 4.
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May 31, 2017 22:37
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Kalli posted:I'm going to presume Wes ain't making it in for a long long time if ever. Wes Welker, Amani Toomer, Santana Moss: your NFL Hall of Fame Class of 2021.
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May 31, 2017 22:37
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Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce should both definitely be in the HoF and it's not even my former homerism
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May 31, 2017 22:48
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Kalli posted:I'm going to presume Wes ain't making it in for a long long time if ever. I think Edelman coming in and being Welker 2.0 virtually immediately has made a lot people sort of forget about Welker (much like Welker himself) and/or sort of assume that he was a system receiver. I don't think he'll ever make it in but I think he might have a few votes without Edelman.
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May 31, 2017 22:52
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I just did the math and Dion sims, Markus Wheaton, Kendall wright, Victor Cruz and Kevin white combined last year for a bit under 1600 yards. Cruz led all of them.
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May 31, 2017 23:06
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the mean lunch lady posted:Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce should both definitely be in the HoF and it's not even my former homerism Sure. Just not ahead of TO
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May 31, 2017 23:17
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I still blame TO for blowing up the Eagles
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May 31, 2017 23:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoWorkDQ4r8 Kurt Warner was pretty good.
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Jun 1, 2017 00:05
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There have been worse teams, but the Lions going winless in the salary cap era as a non-expansion team is the most pathetic result in football history.
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Shangri-Law School posted:There have been worse teams, but the Lions going winless in the salary cap era as a non-expansion team is the most pathetic result in football history. I'm sad that we stopped history last year
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Jun 1, 2017 00:17
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also sportswriters not putting TO into the Hall and citing that it's because no one they interviewed liked him completely and utterly delegitimizes the Hall as anything but a popularity contest
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Jun 1, 2017 00:32
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SKULL.GIF posted:also sportswriters not putting TO into the Hall and citing that it's because no one they interviewed liked him completely and utterly delegitimizes the Hall as anything but a popularity contest The continued snubbing of Don Coryell alone delegimized the hall years and years ago.
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Jun 1, 2017 00:36
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SKULL.GIF posted:also sportswriters not putting TO into the Hall and citing that it's because no one they interviewed liked him completely and utterly delegitimizes the Hall as anything but a popularity contest lol wait until Steve Smith gets in because "he played like it was a different era"
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Jun 1, 2017 01:03
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FizFashizzle posted:lol wait until Steve Smith gets in because "he played like it was a different era" Suh plays like it's a different era, but he doesn't get a pass.
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Jun 1, 2017 01:18
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I still blame TO for blowing up the Eagles Surely you mean "credit" or "congratulate".
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Jun 1, 2017 01:45
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They put a punter in because people spent twenty years remembering wrong things about him.
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Jun 1, 2017 02:03
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Chichevache posted:Surely you mean "credit" or "congratulate". I'd rather the Eagles have won that Super Bowl. gently caress the Patriots.
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Jun 1, 2017 02:05
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fartknocker posted:I'd rather the Eagles have won that Super Bowl. Clearly, in the current timeline the Patriots gently caress you!
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Jun 1, 2017 02:28
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Dexo posted:Lmao at TO being worse than Carter
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Jun 1, 2017 02:53
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you guys can make fun of gase all you want but none of you were ever charged with scrubbing the culture of joe philbin from existence #whateverittakes #earnyourphin #printthelogos
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Ehud posted:you guys can make fun of gase all you want but none of you were ever charged with scrubbing the culture of joe philbin from existence Greg Schiano.
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Ehud posted:you guys can make fun of gase all you want but none of you were ever charged with scrubbing the culture of joe philbin from existence Bullshit, Dan Campbell scrubbed the first five layers of Joe Philbin out of the locker room before Gase got there.
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Jun 1, 2017 03:13
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wandler20 posted:Jeff Garcia is the Bucs best QB of all time. Steve Young.
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Jun 1, 2017 03:20
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Steve Young was not really Steve Young on the Bucs. Dude wad kinda a bust until he warmed the 49ers bench for a few years
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Yeah, Young was trash in Tampa but that probably more a product of the system. He would've wasted there.
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aperion posted:Bullshit, Dan Campbell scrubbed the first five layers of Joe Philbin out of the locker room before Gase got there. Lol he most definitely did not He still played the worst players just because Philbin did. Miller still got no use. But hey we had the Oklahoma drill!
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Speaking of the Bucs first few seasons, I thought I'd share this. I have it hanging on the wall in my office. The St Pete times created this after the Super Bowl - it's every game the Bucs ever played from their first ever up to the SB, with the Lombardi trophy outlined: Close up:  I did timg because I'm phone posting and have no idea how big these are
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